That photo from January 2012 is surprising, looks like he still dresses himself formally and presents himsetf as a Zen priest.

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1 Wlcom Gust h lo a~lnlfllly Fri Aug 17, 212 3:8 om Viw unanswrd posts VKYrN activ topics Viw your posts Pathway: Board indx Buddhist OisctJsslon Loung Practical Buddhism Tachr Sxual misconduct -Eido Tai Shimano, ZSS, and othrs Post roply ~arch this topic... Sarch 214 posts Pag 17 of w R : Tachr Sxual misconduct -Eido Tai Shimano, ZSS, and ot Rp ott D by christophr::: on Wd Aug 15, :19am gnkaku wrot: Follow th mony: c hri stoph r : : ~ Founding Mmbr Posts: 495 Jolnod: ru Fb :25pm Location: FukUoka, Japan anbspam: No "Eido Roshi will b attnding DBZ for OBON on August 11th-12th. H will also conduct a spcial crmony on Sunday with honord gusts from Japan, to inaugurat th nw Samon Gat for DBZ. - - From Playful Moon That photo from January 212 is surprising, looks lik h still drsss himslf formally and prsnts himstf as a Zn prist. Oh wll. Sms clar to m that thos who wr harmd by thir xprincs with Eido Shimano will find th gratst pac of mind and happinss by rlasing any and all xpctations of thr bing dramatic changs mad as long as Shimano livs. t's just vry unralistic. That's on of th sad lsson hr, imo. Don*t xpct pigs to fly, trs to walk, or stons to fl rmors or griv. :::::Buddha Natur: Hart of th Dharma:::: Tao & Zn CFacbook oaool ::" *You arc tho sky. Evrything ls. it's just tho wathr. -Prna Chodron Dby on Wd Aug 15, 212 9:22 am christophr::: wrot: Oh wll. Sms clar to m that thos who wr harmd by thir xprincs with Eido Shimano will find th gratst pac of mind and happinss by rlasing any and all xpctations of thr bing dramatic changs mad as long as Shimano livs. t's just vry unralistic. Posts: 15 1 Joind: won Aug :57 am LocatiOn: Sattl, WA USA anl!spam: No Ys, it is tim to mov on. Rcntly was askd about forgivnss as it rlats to Eido Shimano Roshi. As w know, just rcntly on August 12, 212, Eido Roshi was schduld to conduct a spcial crmony with honord gusts from Japan, to inaugurat th nw $1,+ Sam on (Main Tmpl) Gat to Dai Bosatsu Zndo (DBZ), th Zn Studis Socity (ZSS) monastry in th Catskill Mountains of Nw York. Th currnt abbot of ZSS invitd him, Shing Shrry Chayat Roshi, appointd by Eido Roshi to b his succssor. Many formr ZSS studnts, including myslf, and som currnt participants, including som ZSS Board mmbrs did not considr this invitation a good ida. n fact it is my rcollction that narly th ntir ZSS board, at last whn sat on it, did not intnd to invit Eido Roshi to this or any othr crmony on ZSS proprty, lt alon allow him to conduct" on (s: 2 .pdf ). Prsonally, 'v com to forgiv Eido Roshi for turning out to b a sxual prdator who pryd on th most vulnrabl fmal studnts undr his car, rsorting to dat rap whn h couldn't gt his way, and passing STDs to his studnts. Prhaps this forgivnss is not min to giv, as was in no way abusd or assaultd by him, but somhow 'v com to undrstand that h clarly had no capacity to control his impulss, vn though h was confrontd about his problm multipl tims ovr th cours of dcads. hav no dsir to s him in prison, vn though in many stats h would b in prison for having sxual rlations with multipl fmals (oftn at th sam tim) in th "congrgation. And from my gratitud to him for srving many othrs and m in his rol as a Zn Mastr, vn want him to hav a dcnt rtirmnt packag, but not what appars to m to b th ridiculousty absurd packag h is insisting on. Howvr, givn th facts of this cas, could only support a rtirmnt packag that was contingnt on Eido Roshi's complt rtirmnt from taching anywhr. You s, though h has my forgivnss and undrstanding, do not want mor innocnt studnts xposd to his abuss of powr and authority. What 'm not yt abl to forgiv is that Shing Roshi and th ZSS board continu to xpos th ZSS Sangha to this man that still dnis h has a problm, at last not any kind of problm that would rqu ir him to work on his culpability. What also cannot forgiv or undrstand is why thy ar bankrupting th organization trying to pay him his dfrrd compnsation at th rat of $9,+ pr yar in oompnsation and bnfits, vn though h continus to tach in Nw York and lswhr around th world. (S: ). Unfortunatly, Shing Roshi has told m h dsrvs this amount, which is why think sh is unwilling to tst th issu in court. Yt, by holding to this position, sh and th board ar indirctly funding Eido Roshi's ability to oontinu to tach, xposing mor studnts to his prdations. As many know, ZSS is currntly sking to st up a consrvation trust with th Natur Consrvancy for about half of th DBZ proprty, an ida which support, to fund th Shimanos rtirmnt, which don't support or forgiv (s: as it will continu to fund Eido Roshi's taching and prdations off proprty. Evn though had to lav th ZSS board bcaus was tird of bing askd by Shing Roshi to covr up for Eido Roshi multipl tims (s: lintrviw-gnjo-... as-socity ), and my tmpl, Chobo-Ji in Sattl, trminatd all affiliation bcaus th Chobo-Ji board rcognizd that th ZSS was not adquatly addrssing thos dirctty harmd or alinatd, ZSS for bttr or wors will always b my root tmpl. Thrfor, am still hoping for its rcovry, not its downfall. Howvr, to my knowldg: 1) No furthr xploration or haling with th widr sangha is schduld. 2) Th currnt oprating ZSS bylaws hav not bn mad public, 'm told bcaus thy ar bing workd on; howvr, this dos not fit with any ida of transparncy 'm awar of. 3) At this point th board is still ssntially appointd, not lctd, and th bylaw modification procss is a board only concrn. 4) Th long awaitd fornsic audit of ZSS books xamining othr possibl abuss of powr and authority, promisd sinc th fall of 21, has no schduld compltion dat.

2 5) An organizational apology for its part in not bttr protcting its own sangha ovr dcads of abus has nvr bn offrd and no publishd ZSS nwslttr has vr statd clarly why Eido Roshi rsignd as abbot. 6) Eido Roshi rtird in th Fall of 2~, yt his possssions still cluttr both tmpls to such an xtnt that Shing Roshi has not vn bn abl to slp in th abbot's quartrs of ithr tmpl. t is as though ths rooms hav bcom shrins to him or ar awaiting his rturn. Many hav said to m, wshing Roshi is doing th bst sh can, but somtims w must com to rcogniz "th bst w can just dosn1 cut it, and if w ar clar yd nough to s this w must say so. n my opinion, Shing Roshi's loyalty to Eido Roshi is clouding hr bttr judgmnt and hurting ZSS's chancs of rcovry. By supporting only th sangha lft standing aftr anothr mass xodus, so many ar ignord and lft out of th procss. At last this is how s it. n my mind, forgivnss can only com whn on can rasonably conclud th abus has stoppd and thos who hav indirctly supportd it hav sufficint comprhnsion of th damag don that thy hav haltd any dirct or indirct support. Alii can say is Not Yt. For myslf, will concntrat on my own practic with th Sattl Sangha, and pray this is th last post will fl complld to mak on this subjct. As Christophr says, it is unralistic that ZSS will vr actualiz th dram onc had that it would bcom a wlcoming tmpl to thos who hav bn abusd or alinatd. t is tim to lt go and mov on with our livs. With palms togthr, Abbot of Oai Bai Zan Cho Bo Zon Ji (Chobo-Ji) tmpl, Sattl, USA: psychothrapist and crtificatod spiritual dirctor. D by Rujln on Wd Aug 15, : 14 am w rot: was tird of bing askd by Shing Roshi to covr up for Eido Roshi Rujln Posts: 82 JOind: Sat Aug 4, 212 4:19pm Wow. D by on Wd Aug 15, :4pm This is 's viw. Shing's is quit diffrnt. GODal Moorator Joind: Wd Fb 4, 29 9:3am Location: Omaha, NbtaSka, USA anlispam: No Soto Zan Buddhist Prist. Transmittd Dharma Hir of Dainin Katagiri Roshi. Abbot and Had Tachr, Nbraska Zn Cantor Hanland Tmpl, Omaha, Nbraska, USA D by Rujln on Wd Aug 15, 212 2:54pm Of cours, but what is th truth? RuJln Posts: 82 Joind: Sat Aug 4, 212 4:19pm D by Carol on Thu Aug 16, :48 am Modrator's Not: ca.., GlObal Moorator Posts: 8151 Joind: Th Fb 3, 29 8:52pm Location: Santa Rosa, CA ant.spam: No Posts with ad hominm attacks hav bn rmovd, along with posts rsponding to and quoting thm. You know who you ar and you know th ruls. t's possibl to hav this discussion without stooping down to th nam-calling/baiting/points-scoring lvl. Any mor of that and 'll start issuing formal warnings. Plas rad th Trms of Srvic and Modration Guidlins bfor posting hr. Things arc not what thy appar to bo, nor arc thy othorwlao. - Tho Lankavatara Sutra D by on Thu Aug 16, 212 1:21pm wrot: This is 's viw. Shing's is quit diffrnt. Posts: 151 Jolno(l: lion Aug :57 am Location: Sattl, WA USA anlspam: No Ys, w hav sn hr viw of why lft in an mail sh snt, which was outd hr on this forum, along with hr apology. think th half of th ZSS board that rsignd mostly in disgust and disblif sinc Eido Roshi was forcd to rtir would shar my rcollctions and viws. can provid th vidnc of this if nd b. Shing Roshi has workd at nar1y vry turn to try and minimiz th board's rspons to Eido Roshi's actions and protct him from furthr "mbarrassmnt," which is why so many lft. Ys, it can b said that this too is just my opinion, but can and hav providd point by point xamp~s. Abbot of Dai Bai Zan Cho Bo Zon Ji (Chobo-Ji) tomplo, Soanlo, USA: psychothrapist and cortific8tod spiritual dirctor.

3 gnkaku Posts: 3834 Joind: Sat Fb7, 29 8:24pm Oby gnkaku on Thu Aug 16, 212 3:14 pm Carol wrot: Modrator's Not: Posts with ad hominm attacks hav bn rmovd, along with posts rsponding to and quoting thm. You know who you ar and you know th ruls. t's possibl to hav this discussion without stooping down to th nam-calling/baiting/points-scoring lvl. Any mor of that and 'll start issuing formal warnings. Plas rad th Trms of Srvic and Modration Guidlins bfor posting hr. Carol- As on of th apparntly offnding partis, apologiz. do what can in my practic not to tak covr bhind any imagind position or spiritual 'achivmnt.' 'm not always succssful, but try. D by on Thu Aug 16, 212 3:32pm Rujln wrot: Of cours, but what is th truth? Global Moctrator Joind: Wd Fb 4, 29 9:3am Location: Omaha, Nbfaska. USA anttspam: No t is impossibl to dtrmin th "truth" of past vnts. What a prson thinks happnd is not what happnd. t is th prson's ida in th prsnt momnt of an vnt that happnd in th past. Witnsss to past vnts vary quit a bit whn rcounting thos vnts. n a situation such as this it's mor productiv for popl to work togthr to mov forward productivly than to continuously rhash things by pointing fingrs at othr popl's past conduct as if w w hav a lock on th truth Eido Shimano is rtird from ZSS and no longr has any official function thr. Shing Chayat, th currnt Board of Dirctors, and th many sangha mmbrs who continu to practic thr ar committd to procding in a positiv dirction and changing th cultur that ld to past abuss, with th hlp of profssional mdiators and a good lgal tam. Ths popl hav bn working togthr for ths past months and hav bn making grat strids. Thy dsrv our support and th tim ncssary to continu and ultimatly complt thir work. Scond gussing by thos from afar is not at all hlpful and srvs no usful purpos. Soto Zn Buddhist Priost. Transmittd Dharma Hoir of Dainin Katagiri Roshi. Abbot and Had Tachr, Nbraska Zn Cntr Hartland Tmpl. Omaha. Nbraska, USA hnp:/lwww.prairiwlndzn.ofg D by Kobutsu on Thu Aug 16, 212 3:43pm Edit wrot: Ys, w hav sn hr viw of why lft in an mail sh snt, which was outd hr on this foru m, along with hr apology. think th half of th ZSS board that rsignd mostly in disgust and disblif sinc Eido Roshi was forcd to rtir would shar my roollctions and viws. can provid th vidnc of this if nd b. KobUtsu Posts: 61 Joind: W.on Fb 23, 29 1:43pm Location: Sdgwtck. Main. USA A -osho, sinc you hav so gnrously offrd to supply th abov vidnc concrning th rcollctions and viws of th ZSS Board mmbrs who rsignd, plas do so in ordr to insur that an accurat rcord of what transpird is availabl in th archiv. Thr is a darth of factual information surrounding ZSS activitis. Thos of us who hav pourd significant portions of our livs and trasur into ZSS in th past and now compris a disnfranchisd sangha, find th "fl-good" "ZSS-spak" publications bing toutd as "nws" to b disgracfully dishonst and dlusional. W har of crmonis for Sanmon gats but hav yt to s vn on photograph of this hundrd-thousand dollar construction.. why? Dos any on out thr hav a photograph of this "gat complx"? A lot of us would lik to s it... And, that is your viw... min and hundrds of othrs ar quit diffrnt. last ditd by Kobutsu on Thu Aug :17 pm, ditd 1 tim in total. D by Spik on Thu Aug 16, :5pm wrot: Spik Posts: 49 Joind: ThO Aug 19, 21 1:15pm Eido Shimano is rtird from ZSS and no longr has any official function thr. Not tru. H was invitd by ZSS to officiat at th rval of th Samon gat just last wknd. Tho sadnoss of a lapsd radical or a botrsyod fan rosts on a common foar that thoy wastod tho doopost, most imsginativo hours of thoir livos on tho wrong objoct. - Anthony Hcilbut: Tho Fan Who Know Too Much

4 D by on Thu Aug 16, 212 5:49pm Posts: 151 Joind: MonAug 3,2111:57 am Location: Sattl, WA USA ant_.spam: No & wrot: Rujln wrot: Of cours, but what is th truth?... Ths popl hav bn working togthr for ths past months and hav bn making grat strids. Thy dsrv our support and th tim ncssary to continu and ultimatly complt thir work. Scond gussing by thos from afar is not at all hlpful and srvs no usful purpos. Who4s scond gussing? Eido Shimano Roshi groomd vulnrabl fmal studnts undr his car for dcads to mt his sxual dsirs, somtims rsorting to forc to hav his way. was multipl tims askd, nay told to supprss mbarrassing actions or vidnc against Eido Roshi by Shing. Th Shimanos ar bing paid at th rat of $9,+ pr yar in compnsation and bnfits. Eido Roshi was invitd to conduct th Samon Gat crmony at DBZ this month. As yt no furthr xploration or haling with widr sangha has bn announcd or schduld. Shing instructd that th currnt oprating ZSS bylaws not b mad public. At this point th board is still ssntialty appointd, not lctd and th bylaw modification procss is a board only ooncm. Th long awaitd fornsic audit of ZSS books xamining othr possibl abuss of powr and authority, promisd sinc th fall of 21, currntly has no announcd oompltion dat. Thr has bn no organization apology for its part in not bttr protcting its own sangha ovr dcads of abus. No publishd ZSS nwslttr has vr statd clarly why Eido Roshi was forcd to rsign as abbot. Eido Roshi's possssions still cluttr both tmpls so that Shing Roshi has nvr onc slpt in th abbot's quartrs of ithr tmpl. f this is "making grat strids," your opinion, thn w will just hav to agr to disagr. Last tditd by on Thu Aug :17 pm. ditd 1 tim in total. Abbot of Dai Bai Zan Cho Bo Zn Ji (Chobo.Ji) tmpl, Sattl, USA: psychothrapist and cortiftatod spiritual diroctor. ht!p:/lwww.chobojl.org D by on Thu Aug 16, 212 7:1pm Kobutsu wrot : "And, that is your viw... min and hundrds of othrs ar quit diffrnt." Ys Kobutsu, that is my viw. t and thos of hundrds of othrs ar quit diffrnt from yours. GlObal Modrator Joind: Wd Fb 4, 29 9:3am Location: Omana. Nbraska. USA anii.spam: No 8 Soto Zon Buddhist Prist. Transmitlod Ohatrna Hir of Oainin Katagiri Roshi. Abbot and Had Tachr. Nbraska Zn Cntr Hartland Tmpl. Omaha. Nbraska, USA hnp:/lwww.prairiwindzn.org D by Kobutsu on Thu Aug 16, :22pm Edit Kobutsu Rachs down and rings th littl bll.... KobUtiU Posts: 61 Joind: W.on Fb 23, 29 1:43pm Location: Sdgw'CX, Main. USA A D by on Thu Aug 16, 212 7:28pm, GlObal Modrator Jolnod: Wd Fb 4, 29 9:3am Location: Omaha. Nbraska. USA anbspam: No t don't hav th tim to rspond to all of your allgations, and bsids, thy hav bn rspondd to prviously on this thrad and in public mtings. Plas rmmbr that thy ar mrty allgations, and Shing wisly rfuss to participat on public forums and oountr thm. Howvr, on point: You know as wll as that th rason why th latst ZSS By-laws hav not bn mad public is that thy hav not bn finalizd. Th ar a work in progrss bing formulatd with th hlp of a profssional mdiation and conciliation srvic. Whn thy ar finalizd, thy will b mad public, and thn, you and and any othr intrstd party will hav full accss to thm. Until thn, w 1 11 all hav to wait, whthr w lik it or not. Soto Zn Buddhist Prist. Transminad Dharma Hir of Oainin Katagiri Roshi. Abbot and Had Tachr, Nbraska Zn Cntr Hartland Tmpl, Omaha, Nbraska, USA htlpjiwww.prairiwindzn.org

5 D by on Thu Aug 16, : 3 1 pm Kobutsu wrot: Kobutsu Rachs down and rings th littl bll... GlObal MOOOrato! JOind: Wd Fb 4, 29 9:3am LocaiiOn: Omaha, NbraSka, USA ani!spam: No Kobutsu, You know as wll as do that only zn tachrs authorizd to hold dokusan gt to ring th littl bll. Soto Zon Buddhist Prist. Transmittd Dharma Hir of Dainin Katagiri Roshi. Abbot and Had Tachr, Nbraska Zn Cntr Hartland Tmpl, Omaha, Nb raska, USA hnp:/lwww.prairiwlndzn_ofg D by on Thu Aug 16, 212 7:49pm, wrot: Posts: 151 Joind: MonAUg 3,2111:57 am Location: Sattl, WA USA ant.spam: No don't hav th tim to rspond to all of your allgations, and bsids, thy hav bn rspondd to prviously on this thrad and in public mtings. Plas rmmbr that thy ar mrly allgations, and Shing wisly rfuss to participat on public forums and countr thm. Howvr, on point: You know as wll as that th rason why th latst ZSS By laws hav not bn mad public is that thy hav not bn finalizd. Th ar a work in progrss bing formulatd with th hlp of a profssional mdiation and conci liation srvic. Whn thy ar finalizd, thy will b mad public, and thn, you and and any othr intrstd party wi ll hav full accss to thm. Until thn, w 'll all hav to wait, whthr w lik it or not. Dar, find it amazing that you can rad th body of vidnc and still call what hav said "mrty ajigations." doubt vn Shing would disagr with a singl point, though surty sh would try and xplain or xcus hrslf for hr actions and inactions. Your loyalty to your frind is admirabl. know that th bylaws that wr oprating whn was on th board hav bn rplacd and th nw ons not mad public. Shing hrslf wouki not dny this. do agr that vn nwr bylaws ar bing workd on and ar "not yt finalizd." hav nvr said anything diffrnt than this. think th currnt oprating bylaws rval somthing of Shing's charactr which sh wishs hiddn. hav a copy of th draft, but not a final copy, of th currnt oprating bylaws, so may indd hav som insight about this. Nvrthlss, it sms w will nvr know for sur, bcaus th currnt oprating bylaws hav not bn mad public, and it sms nvr will b. With palms togthr, Abbot of Oai Bai Zan Cho Bo Zn J i (Chobo-Ji) tmpl, Soattl, USA: psychothrapist and crtiftcatod spiritual dirctor. ht!p:/lwww.choboji.org Dby Spik on Thu Aug 16, 212 7:55pm wrot: Spik Posts: 49 Joind: Thu Aug ;15 pm Kobutsu wrot: Kobutsu Rachs down and rings th littl bll... Kobutsu, You know as wll as do that only zn tachrs authorizd to hold dokusan gt to ring th littl bll. Hands palm to palm, ndd, it must b a wondrous thing, not only to ring a lihi bll, but to b authorizd to do it. Tho sadnoss of a fapsod radical or a borrayod fan rosts on a ccmmon foar that thoy wastod tho docpost, most imaginativo hours of thoir fivos on tho wrong objoct. - Anthony Hcilbut: Th Fan Who Knw Too Much

6 R: Tachr Sxual misconducl -Eido Tai Shimano, ZSS, and ot D by Spik on Thu Aug 16, :2pm wrot: Spik Posts: 49 Joind: Tho Aug 19, 21 1;15 pm, wrot: don't hav th tim to rspond to all of your allgations, Dar, find it amazing that you can rad th body of vidnc and still call what hav said mrly allgations. With palms togthr, n truth, bliv Mr. is unabl to rfut th body of vidnc, and thrfor is forcd to hid. Tho sadnoss of a fapsod radical or a botrayod fan rosts on a common foar that thoy wastod rho doopost, most imaginativo hours of thoir fivos on tho wrong objoct. - Anthony Hcilbut: Tho Fan Who Knw Too Much D by Kobutsu on Thu Aug 16, 212 8:43pm Edit An AZrA "authorizd bll-ringt'... From Swping Zn: Kobutau Sxual controvrsy surrounds Opn Mind Zn Aug 16th, 212 Posts: 61 Joind: Moo Fb 23, 29 1:43pm Location: Sdgw\ck. Maln, USA A W'r back again with that old prsistnt problm: Anothr Zn tachr stands accusd of sxual misconduct. This isn't a story particularly want to writ, truth b told. Whn th first mail mssag accusing A Fusho Rapaport (picturd right) of Opn Mind Zn of sxual misconduct arrivd in Jun of this yar, it was somthing took not of and loggd away. Bcaus had intrviwd Al in th past (an intrviw quit njoyd), found it odd that h of all popl would b accusd of rlationships with fmal studnts. H was quit vocal in th intrviw on th topic and, whn discussions would nsu on Facbook rgarding Gnpo, A would oftn stop in to rmark. Th tttr had originatd from a formr mmbr of Opn Mind who disdosd dtails of a rlationship btwn Snsi A and a fmal who Mcam to th Cntr for spiritual guidanc" which ld to an Assistant Tachr rsigning at th tim. Aftr asking m who all h should inform, rcommndd h contact som individuals with th Whit Plum Asanga, th Faith Trust nstitut and An Oliv Branch - which h did. This month, rcivd a scond mail, this from Ely Kugo DsJardins (picturd lft), now a formr Assistant Tachr of Snsi A who has a location for mditation in Tulsa (now unaffiliatd with Opn Mind Zn). So hr had two mails from two diffrnt popl in his organization. had to admit that Ely's pic was prtty dtaild. H ndd up putting it in blog format for othrs to rad, availabl at Opn Truth Zn. Chck it out and s what you think of th whol thing. contactd Snsi At to s if h would lik to offr a rspons to th accusations, mainly from Ety. Hr is At's rspons: First of all, 'd lik to thank Adam for th chanc to rspond to th two rports h has rcivd. will try to b brif and to prsnt facts rathr than my opinion. 1) t is tru that about 4 or 5 yars ago ngagd in a rlationship with an Opn Mind Zn group mmbr, which ndd approximatly 4 yars ago. 2) admittd and do now admit that this rlationship was a srious transgrssion. 3) Ely DsJardins was awar of th rlationship, and chos to continu studis with m up until rcntly. 4) hav not ngagd in a rlationship with a mmbr of Opn Mind Zn sinc th on of 4 yars ago ndd. 5) did hav a rlationship last yar with a non mmbr whil sparatd from my wif. This was th catalyst for currnt disruption in th Sangha. tak full rsponsibility for ths ffcts and admit that was ngagd in an unhalthy pattrn of bhavior which am now working with. 6) Th Whit Plum Asangha Wisdom Circl and my Transmission Tachr rcntly issud a list of rcommndations to addrss this situation and am following all of thm. Thy cam to ths rcommndations aftr mor than a month of intrviwing all partis including thos who claimd injury at th tim. Aftr rading Ely's claims about "L, flt th nd to contact hr for an honst statmnt that w could hav prmission to print, as didn't rmmbr anything impropr occurring during our short oonnction. Hr is hr statmnt in part: " nvr flt you did anything unthical or immoral... nvr flt violatd by you in any way. will b taking a brak from taching to implmnt th WPA rcommndations on a full tim basis. giv my dpst apologis to thos who hav offndd. Sincrly, Snsi A Rapaport 'm sur thr will b mor to com of all of this in th days to com, but 'll lav it at this for now. undrstand that Ely's blog may b updatd in th coming days with mor dtails from othrs. f you ar a formr or currnt mmbr who would lik to b hard, just lt m know.

7 O by Carol on Frl Aug 17, 212 3:9am Modrator's Not: C.ool GlObal Modrator Posts: 8153 Joind: Wd Fb 4, 29 2:52am Location: Santa Rosa, CA antspam: No hav just rmovd svral mor posts. Evrything that can b known about Eido Shimano and ZSS, and th past and currnt stat(s) of affairs has bn fully st out hr by participants with diffring points of viw. Nothing nw is bing addd, mrly points scoring and/or prsonal bickring ovr whos allgations and viws ar mor or lss "tru." Th spctacl w'r witnssing on this board now is adding nothing to th body of knowldg or undrstanding, and is mor posturing and insults. am locking this topic. Th modrators will rviw whthr or not it will b ropnd. will b askd to rcus himslf form th modrators' discussion, as h has bn an activ participant in th xchangs hr. f you want to communicat your viws about whthr th topic should rmain lockd or b ropnd you may do so by ithr to myslf or to "Global Modrators" -- but NOT on th opn forum. -Carol -: Prvious Lockd Things aro not what thy appar to bo, nor aro thoy othorwlao. -Tho lankavatara Sutra Display posts from prvious : All posts...:j Sort by Post tim..:j Ascnding..:J ~ 2127 posts Pag 17 of id -: Aotum to Practical Buddhism Jump to: Practical Buddhism -.:J~ Who is onlin Usrs browsing this forum: No rgistrd usrs and 2 guasts t Board indx Th tam Dlt all board cookis All tims aro ljtc ( ~.!. )