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1 okrkzyki lhmh ua- 480] iq.ks&1 ¼egkjk Vª½] rk% Disc CD No. 480, dated at Pune-1 (Maharashtra) Lke;&4-25&7-15 ftkklq& ckck] us eqjyh esa dgk fd vunj okys jg tk;saxs ckgjokys ys tk;saxsa ckck& gsa ftkklq& ckck gels vpnk rks csfld okys gks x;k uka Time: Student: Baba has said in a Murli that the insiders will be left (emptyhanded) and the outsiders will take away (the inheritance of happiness and peace). Baba: Hum? Student: Baba, (so) those following the basic knowledge became better than us, didn t they? ckck& ys tk;saxs fd ys x;s\ csfld ukyst esa D;k gqvk\ tks vunj okys ljsumj gks djds csbs gq;s Fks]?kj?kkV NksM+ djds vk;s gq;s oks vhkh rd vanj gh csbs gq, gs ] mugsa ckgj dh nqfu;k dk irk gh ugha gs fd Hkxoku?kj x`glfk esa vk djds x`glfk esa jgrs gq;s x`gflfk;ksa dks jkt;ksx dh i<+kbz i<+k; jgk gsa vunj okys jg x;s vksj tks?kj x`glfk dk thou] dhpm+ dk thou fcrkus okys csfld ukyst esa Fks oks ys x;sa ;gka dksbz,slk csbk gks tks x`glfkh u gksa Baba: Will they take away or did they take away? What happened in the basic knowledge? The insiders, who had remained surrendered, the ones who had come leaving their households, they are still sitting inside, they do not know about the outside world at all that God comes in a household and while living in a household, He is teaching Rajyog to the householders. The insiders were left (empty handed) and the ones who were leading a household life, a life of mud in the path of basic knowledge took away (the inheritance of peace and happiness). Is there anyone sitting here who is not a householder, ftkklq&ckck csfld esa rks ckck & ckgj jgus okyk u gks] ljsumj gks djds jgk gksa gs csbk gqvk\ Hkxoku x`gflfk;ksa dks i<+kbz i<+kus vkrk gs lu;kfl;ksa dks i<+kbz i<+kus vkrk gs\ ¼lcus dgk & x`gflfk;ksa dks½ xhrk Kku lu;kfl;ksa ds fy;s gs ;k vtzqu tsls x`gflfk;ksa ds fy;s gs\ ¼lcus dgk & x`gflfk;ksa ds fy,½ rks le> esa vk ldrk gs fd Hkxoku dgka i<+kbz i<+krk gsa lu;klh thou fcrkus okys lqsn dim+ksa okys gksa pkgs yky dim+s okys gksa] pkgs ihys dim+s okys gksa] pkgs dkys dim+s okys gks] mu lu;kfl;ksa ds ikl Hkxoku vkrk gs D;k\ ugha vkrk gsa rks czkã.kksa dh nqfu;k esa Hkh lu;kfl;ksa ds ikl ugha vkrk gsa blfy;s eqjyh esa cksyk gs tgka NRrhl izdkj ds Hkksx fey ldrs gsa ogka esa ugha vkrk gawa tgka cppksa dks jksvh Hkh ugha ulhc gksrh gs ogka esa vkrk gawa Hkxoku dks xjhc fuokt+ dgk tkrk gsa Student: Baba in the basic knowledge Baba:..the one who does not live outside, the one who has surrendered (himself)? Is there any such person sitting (here)? Does God come to teach the householders or the sanyasis (renunciates)? (Everyone said to the householders). Is the knowledge of Gita for the sanyasis or for the householders like Arjun? (Everyone said for the householders). So, one can understand as to where God teaches. Does God come to the sanyasis leading a life of renunciation, whether they the ones who wear white clothes, whether they are the one who 1

2 wear red clothes, whether they are the ones who wear yellow clothes, whether they are the ones who wear black clothes? He does not (come to them). So, He does not come to the sanyasis within the world of Brahmins as well. That is why it has been said in the Murlis, I do not come where one can get 36 varieties of bhog (food). I come at the place where children are not even lucky to get roties. God is called Garib Niwaaz (friend of the poor ones). ftkklq&ckck csfld okys cksyrs gs fd ckck us ges xìh ij fcbk;k gs] igys cksyrs Fks tc esa tkrh Fkh rks] rks tks Hkh ckr gks gels Mk;jsD ku ysds djksa rks D;k ;s lgh gs\ ckck&hkxoku Hkfo ; ds fy;s xìh u khu cukrk gs fd orzeku esa xìh nsus vkrk gs\ orzeku esa rks Hkxoku [kqn gh vkrk gs cpps vkb,e ;qvj ¼lcus dgk & ekslv½ vksfcfm;av loszava Hkxoku vkrk gs lsok/kkjh cudjds vksj cpps D;k cuds csb tkrs gs\ gqdejku cu djds csb tkrs gsa gels Mk;jsD ku ys djds,slk djksa Student: Baba, those who follow the basic knowledge say that Baba has made us to sit on the gaddi (seat of power). They used to tell like this when I used to go there; (They used to say that) So, whatever you have to do, do it after taking directions from us. So, is it right? Baba: Does God make us sit on the incumbent of a seat of office for the future or does He come to give us throne in the present time? In the present time, God Himself comes (and says), Child, I am your (Everyone said most) obedient servant. God comes as a sevadhari (server) and what do the children become and sit? They become rulers and sit. (They say), Seek directions from us and do like this. le; & 10-50&18-15 ftkklq & djkph ls eqjyh pyh vkbz gsa rks eqjyh pykus ds fy;s ogka dksu fuferr Fks\ fdlds }kjk eqjyh pyh\ Time: Student: The Murli has being narrated since the days of Karachi. So, who were instrumental in narrating Murli there? Through whom was the Murli narrated? ckck & ckck fla/k gsnjkckn dks igys gh NksM+djds djkph pys x;s Fks vdsysa czãk ckcka ml le; lkjk lrlax ugha x;ka dksvz dpsfj;ka gqbz vksj pkjksa rjq Xykfu mm+h rks mldk fjtyv ;s vk;k & lhkh du;k;sa ekrk;sa rkyksa ds vanj can dj nh xbz fla/k gsnjkckn esaa ml le; ls ys djds vksj lu lsarkyhl ds djkph esa gq;s fganqlrku&ikfdlrku ds [kwu [kjkcs ds >xm+s ds le; rd oks rkyksa esa can jghaa Baba: Baba, Brahma Baba had already left Sindh Hyderabad and moved alone to Karachi. At that time, the entire satsang (gathering) did not move (to Karachi). When the court proceedings took place; and defamation took place everywhere; so, its result came out as, all the virgins and mothers were locked (at their residences) at Sindh Hyderabad. From that time until the year 1947, the time of fight with bloodshed that happened in Karachi during (the partition of) India and Pakistan they remained locked up. tc [kwu [kjkck gqvk rks rhu lks] pkj lks du;kvksa ekrkvksa dks lcdks eksdk fey x;k Lora= gksus dk vksj oks Hkkx djds djkph vk xbza igys czãk ckck vdsys Fks] vdsys nqdsys dksbz vkrs Fks feyus ds fy;s vksj vc lsarkyhl esa D;k gqvk\ rhu lks] pkj lks 2

3 du;kvksa ekrkvksa kfdr;ksa dk lg;ksx fey x;ka rks czãk ckck dks u kk p<+sxk vpkud ;k mrjsxk\ u kk p<+ x;ka fgeer vk xbza fgeers cpps ¼lcus dgk & enns cki½ enns ckia cki us izos k dj fy;ka When the bloodshed took place, all the three hundred, four hundred virgins and mothers received a chance to become free and they ran away to Karachi. Initially, Brahma Baba was alone, one or two persons used to come to meet him; and then what happened in 1947? He received the support of three hundred, four hundred virgins and mothers, shaktis (consort of Shiva). So, will Brahma Baba s intoxication suddenly rise or not? His intoxication rised. He developed courage. When children show courage, (Everyone said the Father helps) the Father helps. The Father entered. ftkklq& fqj mudh mej ipkl lky dh Fkh u rca ckck& ml le; lsarkyhl esa lkb lky dh mez gksxh rc gh rks izos k djsaxsa lu 36 esa mudh ipkl lky mej FkhA ml le; Hkkxhnkj esa izos k gqvk FkkA vksj Hkkxhnkj us muds lk{kkrdkjksa dk vfkz fn;k Fkk] DysfjfQds ku fn;k FkkA czãk ds vunj f ko dh izos krk lkfcr ugha gksrha vxj lkfcr gksrh gs rks lsarkyhl ls ys djds 76 rd cki ds izr;{krk o kz rd mudh vk;q lks lky iwjh ugha gks jgh gsa D;k\ cgqr tueksa ds var ds Hkh var esa esa izos k djrk gawa vxj lu lsarkyhl esa czãk ds cgqr tueksa dks ekusa] 84 oka tue ekus vksj 84 os tue dk var vksj mldk Hkh vara ekuk lkb lky esa tks czãk ds pkyhl lky jg x;s oks Hkh tksm+ ns arks lu 76&77 vkrk gs ;k 87 vkrk gs\ ¼lcus dgk & lrrklh½ lrrklh vkrk gsa rks lu lrrklh esa cki dh izr;{krk o kz gksuk pkfg;sa 76 esa dsls gks x;k\ Student: Then at that time his age was fifty years, wasn t it? Baba: At that time, in 1947, he must have been 60 years old. Only then will He (the Supreme soul) enter (in him). In 1936 his age was fifty years. At that time (in 1936) He had entered in the partner. And the partner had given him the meanings, clarifications of his visions. The entry of Shiv in Brahma is not proved. If it is proved, then from 1947 to 1976, until the year of the Father s revelation, his age is not completing to hundred years. What? I enter at the end of the end of many births. If the end of Brahma s many births is considered to have occurred in 1947, if it is considered to be his 84 th birth, and then the end of the 84 th birth and end of even that end. It means that if the remaining forty years of Brahma are added to the sixty years, then does it come to or to 87? (Everyone said Eighty seven) It comes to 87. So, the year 1987 should be the year of revelation of the Father. How did it happen in 1976? oks bl rjg gks x;k fd 36 esa Hkkxhnkj esa izos k fd;k FkkA oks lkb lky dk FkkA ml le; czãk ckck dh vk;q ipkl lky FkhA Kkuke`r if=dk esa Hkh bl ckr dk izwq fey x;ka tks ch-ds- okyksa ds }kjk gh fy[kh gqbz gsa ¼fdlh us dgk & fuezy kkark nknh dk ys[k½ rks lu 36 esa iztkfirk dh vk;q lkb lky] czãk dh vk;q fdruh gs kkl=ksa esa] fdruh ekuh tkrh gs\ lks lkya rks oks lks lky dk vafre Vkbe iwjk gksus ds fy;s fdrus lky vksj,m+ fd;s tk;sa\ pkyhl lkya 36 esa pkyhl,m+ fd;s rks dksulk lu vk;k\ 76 vk;ka czãk ds lks lky iwjs gksus ij czãk e`r;qyksd [kykl gks tkrk gsa 3

4 It happened so in the way that He had entered in the partner in He was sixty years old. At that time, Brahma Baba was fifty years old. Its proof has been found in the Gyanamrit magazine as well, which has been written by the BKs themselves. (Someone said the article of Nirmalshanta Dadi). So, in the year 1936 Prajapita s age was sixty years; what is Brahma s age mentioned or considered to be in the scriptures? Hundred years. So, how many years should be added to complete the last time of hundred years? Forty years. If forty years are added to the year 36, it results in which year? It comes to 76. On the completeion of hundred years of Brahma, Brahma s time in the world of death ends. czãk ds pkj&ikap :Ik gs rks igyk :Ik Hkh dksbz gsa oks igys :Ik okyk czãk tc lks lky iwjk djrk gs rks mldk e`r;qyksd [kykl gks tkrk gsa e`r;qyksd [kykl gksxk rks vkrek dk igys [kykl gksxk ;k kjhj dk igys [kykl gksxk\ ¼fdlh us dgk & kjhj dk½ eu cqf) :ih vkrek oks euu fparu eafku dh,slh LVst idm+ xbz fd mlesa e`r;qyksd dk mldks nq[k ugha Hkklsxk] oks eu cqf) ls lq[k gh vuqhko djsxka,slh pht fey tkrh gsa vfouk kh Kku fey tkrk gsa Brahma has four-five forms; so there is some first form as well. So, when that first form of Brahma completes hundred years, then his (time in the) world of death ends. When the time in the world of death ends, will it end for the soul first or for the body? (Someone said of the body). The mind and intellect-like soul reaches such a stage of thinking and churning that he will not experience the sorrows of the world of death; he will experience only happiness through the mind and intellect. He receives such a thing. He receives the imperishable knowledge. rks lu 76 esa cki dk izr;{krk o kz euk;k x;ka 87 esa d`.k okyh vkrek vfkkzr lsdamjh czãk] ml czãk ds lks lky iwjs gksrs gs 87 esa] tc lks lky iwjs gksrs gs rks oks Hkh e`r;qyksd dks R;kx dj vejyksd esa vk tkrk gsa vksj mldh ;knxkj ¼fdlh us dgk & fujkdkjh LVst esa½ ugha] mldh ;knxkj curh gsa lkxj esa ihiy ds irrs ij xhkz egy esa d`.k cppk vkjke ls ysvk gqvk gsa vkfred Le`fr dk vaxwbk pwlrs gq;sa rks lu lrrklh ls oks LVst idm+rh gs oks vkreka oks cpps dh izr;{krk gsa cpps us tei yxkbz e`r;qyksd ls vejyksd dh vksja blfy;s iwjs,d o kz nknk ys[kjkt czãk xqytkj nknh esa vo;dr ok.kh ugha pykbza ml le; lkjh rkdr yxk nh,m+okal ikvhz esaa vksj xhkz egy dh izr;{krk gqbza rks lu 47 esa czãk dh vk;q fdruh Fkh\ ¼fdlh us dgk & ipkl½ ipkl lkya lu 47 esa lkb lky vksj 36 esa ipkl lkya So, the year of revelation of the Father was celebrated in The soul of Krishna, i.e. secondary Brahma completes hundred years in 1987; when the hundred years are completed, he too renounces the world of death and enters the world of immortality. And its memorial (someone said incorporeal stage). No, its memorial is formed (as) the child Krishna lying comfortably in the palace-like womb on a fig (peepal) leaf in the ocean, sucking his thumb of soul conscious stage. So, that soul achieves that stage since 1987, it is the revelation of the child. The child took a leap from the world of death to the world of immortality. That is why Dada Lekhraj Brahma did not narrate Avyakta Vani through Gulzar Dadi for one complete year. At that time, he invested the entire energy on the advance party. And the womb-like palace was revealed. So, what was the age of Brahma in 1947? (Someone said fifty) Fifty years. (His age was) sixty years in the year 1947 and fifty years in the year

5 Lke;&21-20 ftkklq&ckck] ckck us cksyk gs tks ftl /kez dh vkrek gksxh fouk k ls igys eryc] nwljs ns k esa pyh tk;sxha ckck&gsa\ ftkklq&tks ftl /kez dh vkrek gksxh cht:ia ckck&gkaa ftkklq&oks vius ns k esa pyh tk;sxha Time: Student: Baba, Baba has said that a soul belonging to a particular religion (within the Brahmin family) will go to other country before the destruction. Baba: Hum? Student: To whichever religion a seed-form soul belongs... Baba: Yes. Student:.it will go to its own country. Ckkck & ugha],sls ugha cksyka ;s cksyk fd tks Hkh cht gs l`f V ds oks lkjh l`f V ds cht fdrus tue ysus okys gsa\ iwjs 84 tue ysus okys gsa vxj iwjs 84 tue ysus okyh vkrek var le; esa nwljs /kez esa pyh tk;s rks mlds tue de gksaxs ;k T;knk gksaxs\ ¼lcus dgk & de gksaxs½ de gks tkosaxsa ¼fdlh us dqn dgk½ vfkz ;s ugha gs] ;s ugha crk;k fd cht :Ik vkrek;sa tks gs dksbz&dksbz nwljs /kez esa pyh tkosaxha FkksM+s le; ds fy;s ;s kwfvax gksrh gsa D;k\ tc rd cki dh iwjh izr;{krk u gks rc rd ds fy;s fd tks Hkh vksj&vksj /kez dh vkrek;sa gs oks vius&vius xzqi dk iyykk idm+ ysaxh vksj lkfcr gks tk;saxh fd ;s duovz gksus okys bl /kez ds cht gsa ugha rks dsls irk pysxk\ gsa\ irk py tk;sxka vksj irk pyus ds ckn tks Hkh duovz gksus okys gsa oks duo kzu esa pys x;sa rks dksuls oa k ds cpsaxs\ ¼lcus dgk & lw;zoa k½ lw;zoa kh cpsaxsa Baba: No. It has not been said like this. It has been said that whoever are the seeds of the world, how many births will all the seeds of the world take? They are the ones who take complete 84 births. If a soul who takes complete 84 births goes to another religion in the end time, then will its births be fewer or more? (Everyone said it will take fewer births) It will be fewer. (Someone said something). So, it does not mean this, it has not been said that some seed form souls will go to the other religions. This shooting takes place for some time. What? Until the complete revelation of the Father takes place, the souls belonging to the other religions will hold the side of their own groups and it will be proved that they are the seeds that will convert in this particular religion. Otherwise, how will we come to know? Hum? We will come to know. And after coming to know those who are going to convert, converted (into their own religions). So, (souls) of which dynasty will remain? (Everyone said the Sun dynasty) Those belonging to the Sun Dynasty will remain. tks lw;zoa kh cpsaxs oks Å ph LVst idm+ ysaxsa vksj ckdh lc viuk kh kk lcdks viuk kh kk ns[kus dks fey tk;sxk fd ge vklqjh /kje ds gs ;k nsoh /kje ds gs\ ¼fdlh us dgk & ckck lw;zoa kh rks ckjg gh½ ckjg tks gs oks jktk DokfyVh dh gs ;k iztk DokfyVh dh gs\ ¼lcus dgk & jktk DokfyVh½ rks mudh iztk ugha gksxh\ ¼lcus dgk & gksxh½,d&,d jktk dh yk[kksa dh rknkn dh iztk gksrh gsa ;gk jktk;sa curs gs rks mugksus viuh iztk ugha cuk;h gksxh\ rks jktk] ;Fkk jktk rfkk iztk lc,d tsls gksaxs ;k flqz ckjg gh gksaxs\ gsa\ lc,d tsls gksaxsa lw;zoa kh gksaxs idds rks lc lw;zoa kh gksaxsa 5

6 The Suryavanshis who remain will achieve a high stage. And all the rest will get to look in the mirror to check whether they belong to the demoniac religion or to the deity religion? (Someone said Baba, there are just 12 Suryavanshis) Do those 12 have the quality of kings or the quality of subjects? (Everyone said Quality of kings) So, will they not have subjects? (Everyone said They will have) Every king has subjects numbering in lakhs (hundred thousands). When they become kings here, would they not have prepared their subjects? So, will the subjects be as the king, will they be alike or will there be just twelve? Hum? Everyone will be alike. If they (the 12 souls) are firm Suryavanshis, they (subjects) shall all be Suryavanshis. gka] tc oks Mk;usLVh izr;{k gks tkosxh] rks nwljh&nwljh Mk;usLVht+ Hkh izr;{k gksaxha oks Hkh ekusaxh] vius Lo:Ik dks idmsaxh] ltk;sa [kk;saxh vksj,d cki dks ekusaxha,d cki dh N=Nk;k esa vkosaxha dc\ lu 36 dk] 2036 dk fouk k gksus ls igys gh ekusaxha ¼fdlh us dgk & bruk ysv\½ gs gh fdruh\ lk<+s pkj yk[k rks gsaa lk<+s pkj yk[k rks muesa izos k djus okys gs tks cpps ds :Ik esa 84 tue ysaxs A rks uks yk[k flrkjs gksaxsa tks yklv fouk k ds Vkbe ij lkjh nqfu;k esa ped ekj jgs gksaxsa ugh arks 500 djksm+ euq ; vkrekvksa dks lans k dsls feysxk\ iszfdvdy esa lans k feyuk gs ;k ugha feyuk gs\ feyuk gsa rks,sls ugha var le; esa fouk k ds le; esa lc nwljs /kje esa pys tkosaxsa ughaa pys tkosaxs vksj fqj vkosaxsa ugha rks fqj muds ikvz dsls izr;{k gksaxs\ ikvz izr;{k gksuk gs fd ugha gksuk gs\ gksuk gsa Yes, when that dynasty is revealed, then other dynasties will also be revealed. They too will accept and achieve their form; suffer punishments and accept the one Father. They will come under the canopy of the one Father. When? They will accept before the destruction in the year 36, (Someone said So late?) After all how many of them are there? They are just four and a half lakhs (450 thousands). (The remaining) four and a half lakhs are the ones who enter in them; the ones who will take 84 births as children. So, there will be nine lakh (900 thousand) stars, which will be shining in the entire world at the time of last destruction. Otherwise, how will the 500 crore human souls get the message? Do they have to get the message in practical or not? They have to. So, it is not as if they will all go to other religions at the end time, at the time of destruction. No. They will go and then come back. Otherwise, how will their parts be revealed? Should their parts be revealed or not? They have (to be revealed). le;&26-55 ftkklq&ckck us cksyk fd tks lr;qxh cpps gksaxs mudks ykyu ikyu djus dh t:jr ugha gksxha oks isnk gksrs gh pyus yxsaxs] ckr djus yxsaxsa rks d`.k vksj tks jk/kk igyh tks gksaxs ckck&gsa\ ftkklq & d`.k tks igyk fizul gksxk] vksj fizulst tks jk/kk gksxh] oks Hkh rks eryc mlh rjg gksxh uka isnk gksrs gh pyus vksj ckr djus yxsaxh uka ckck&gs] rksa Time: Student: Baba has said that the GoldenAge children will not be required to be taken care of. They will start walking, talking as soon as they take birth. So, Krishna and Radha, who will be the first ones... Baba: Hum? 6

7 Student: Krishna, who will be the first prince and Radha, who will be the first princess; they too will be like that, will they not? They will start walking and talking as soon as they take birth, will they not? Baba: Yes, so? ftkklq&ckck ;gh eq>s iwnuk FkkA ckck&gs\ ftkklq&;gh eq>s iwnuk Fkk fd lr;qxh cpps eryc isnk gksrs gh ckr djrs vksj pyus yxrs gs D;k\ ckck&gka] rks D;k VV~Vh is kkc djrs jgsaxs nks & <+kbz lky\ muds eka cki dks lqkbz djuh imsxh\ vkt ds nqfu;k esa Hkh,sls,sls dgha dgha cpps isnk gks tkrs gs fd ek dks rdyhq gksrh ughaa rks ogk dh rks ckr gh fujkyh gsa Student: Baba, I wanted to ask only this. Baba: Hum? Student: Baba, I wanted to ask only this, whether the Golden Age children start talking and walking soon after birth? Baba: Yes; so, will they (just) keep defeacating and urinating for two to two and a half years? Will their parents have to clean (their shit and urine)? Even in today s world, sometimes, some children take birth (in such a way) where the mother does not face any difficulty. But it is completely different about that place. le;&27-51&28-15 ftkklq&ek;k dk fo?u ugha vkus ds fy;s D;k djuk gs\ ckck&vhkh rks crk;k eqjyh esa fujurj lsok esa yxs jgsaxs rks ek;k dks eksdk gh ugha feysxka vkt dh eqjyh esa gh rks crk;ka Time: Student: What should we do to avoid the obstacles of Maya? Baba: Just now it was said in the Murli that if you remain busy in service continuously then Maya will not get any chance at all. It was mentioned in today s Murli itself. le;&28-17 ftkklq& ckck] eqjyh esa cksyk gs jke gh jko.k curk gs] vksj d`.k gh dal curk gsa rks bl ckr dh laxe;qx esa kwfvax dsls gksrh gs\ ckck & tks vkrek lcls uhps tk;sxh oks lcls Åij tk;sxh ;k ugha\ ¼fdlh us dgk & tk;sxh½ ;s vkrek dh kfdr dh ckr gsa tks ftruk uhps fxjrk gs oks mruk Å pk Hkh tkrk gsa uhps fxjuk ;k ifrr gksuk ckr,d gh gs ;k vyx&vyx\,d gh ckr gsa vksj Hkxoku ifrrksa ds fy;s vkrk gs ;k tks Å pk mb djds jgrs gs mu lu;kfl;ksa ds fy;s vkrk gs\ cm+s rs cm+s dkeh dkavs esa vkdj mldks cm+s rs cm+k Qwy cukrk g wa ekuk ifrr ls ifrr ru esa vkrk gw vksj mldks,oj I;ksj cukrk gawa vki lekua Time: Student: Baba, it has been said in the Murli that Ram himself becomes Ravan and Krishna himself becomes Kansa. So, how does the shooting for this take place in the Confluence Age? 7

8 Baba: Will the soul that experiences maximum downfall experience the maximum rise or not? (Someone said It will) It is a question of the power of a soul. The lower someone falls; he also goes higher to that extent. Is experiencing downfall or becoming impure, one and the same or is it different? It is one and the same thing. And does God come for the sinful ones or for the sanyasis who live in a high stage? I come in the biggest lustful thorn and make him the biggest flower. It means that I come in the most impure body and make him ever pure; like Myself. rks jke okyh vkrek oks lkjh euq ; l`f V dk cki gs uka vksj cki dh fteesokjh gksrh gs &?kj esa vxj vkx yx tk;s rks vius vk[kjh cpps dks Hkh vkx ls fudkysxka D;k\ fd Hkkx tk;sxk\ fudkysxka rks bl nqfu;k esa dke fodkj dh vkx var rd c<+rh tkosxh ;k?kvrh tkosxh\ ¼lcus dgk & c<+rh tkosxh½ iq: kkfkz djus okyksa dh vkrek ikojqqy gksrh tkosxh ysfdu kjhj ¼lcus dgk & lm+rs tkosaxs½ lm+rs tkosaxsa ijurq ftugksus ;kn ds cy ls viuh vkrek dks ikojqqy cuk;k gs] oks fgeerokys gksaxs ;k fgeerghu gksaxs\ fgeerokys gksaxsa Hky kjhj lm+k gqvk gks] rks Hkh fgeerokys gksaxsa vksj fgeers cpps ¼lcus dgk & enns cki½ enns ckia So, the soul of Ram is the father of the entire human world, isn t he? And it is the Father s responsibility to rescue even his last child if the house catches fire. What? Or will He run away? He will rescue them. So, will the fire of lust continue to increase in this world till the end or will it decrease? (Someone said It will go on increasing) The souls of those who make special effort for the soul will go on becoming powerful but the bodies (everyone said will go on rotting) will go on rotting. But will those who have made their souls powerful through the power of remembrance be courageous or will they be cowards? They will be courageous. Even though their bodies are rotten, they will be brave. And if the children display courage, (Everyone said Father will help) the Father will help. rqe cpps] rqe cpps gks reksiz/kkua reksiz/kku vkrek;sa lsok ugha djrh gsa muesa ckinknk izos k djds lsok djrs gsa mruh gh lsok djrs gs ftruh fgeer djrs gsaa ek;k ns[kks fdruh fgeer djrh gsa bruh tcjnlr fgeer djus okyh ek;k fd lkjh nqfu;k,d vksj vksj vdsyh ek;k,d vksj gks tkrh gs] tsls cki ds cppksa ds fy;s cksyk & ;K ds vkfn esa Hkh cksyk &,d cki,d rjq vksj lkjh nqfu;k nwljh rjqa rks fdruh fgeer djrh gsa ysfdu cki dh csvh gs rks cki ml csvh dks Hkh fgeer esa enn nsus ds fy;s cka/kk gqvk gsa You children are tamopradhan (dominated by the quality of darkness or ignorance). Tamopradhan souls do not do service. Bapdada enters them and does the service. They do service to the same extent that they show courage. Look, Maya shows so much courage! Maya shows so much courage that the entire world stands on one side and Maya alone stands on another side. Just like it has been said for the Father s children; it was said in the beginning of the yagya too: one Father on one side and the entire world on the other side. So, she (i.e. Maya) shows so much courage! But she is Father s daughter; so, the Father is bound to help even that daughter in the courage that she shows. ftkklq & ckck kjhj lmuk ekuk chekjh vkuk\ Ckkck & kjhj v kdr gksuk ekuk ikap rro tks gs kjhj ds rkelh curs tk jgs gsa Hkys dksbz fdruk Hkh ;ksxh gks kjhj rkelh cu jgs gs] 5 rro kjhj ds rkelh curs tk jgs gsa 8

9 ;k lkfrod cu jgs gs\ rkelh curs tk jgs gsa D;ksa\ D;ksafd nqfu;k esa tks Hkh vkrek;sa gs 500&700 djksm+ oks rkelh ok;czs ku okyh <+sj dh <+sj c<+rh tk jgh gs ;k Kkuh rw vkrekvksa dh la[;k c<+ jgh gs\ rkelh vkrekvksa dh la[;k <+sj dh <+sj gks xbz gs vksj Åij ls vksj Hkh mrjrh tk jgh gsa mrjrh gsa vksj rqjar FkksM+s le; ds ckn rkelh cuus yx im+rh gsa Student: Baba, does rottening of the body mean the body becoming diseased? Baba: The bodies becoming weak means the five elements of the body are becoming degraded (tamasi). Someone may be a yogi to whatever extent, are the bodies becoming degraded, are the five elements of the body becoming degraded or are they becoming pure? They are becoming degraded. Why? It is because, the crore (5-7 billion) souls that are there in the world are the ones with degraded vibrations increasing in large numbers or is the number of knowledgeable souls increasing? The number of degraded souls has increased a lot and many more souls are descending from above. They descend and within a short time they start becoming degraded. rks lkjh nqfu;k esa rkelh ok;czs ku c< jgk gs ;k lkfrod ok;czs ku c<+ jgk gs\ ¼lcus dgk & rkelh½ rkelh ok;czs ku c<+ jgk gsa vksj izd`fr ds 5 rro tm+ gsa ;k psru; gs\ ¼lcus dgk & tm+ gs½ tm+ rro rks Kku dks idm+sxk ughaa vksj Kku dks idm+us okyh eqëh Hkj vkrek;sa cgqr FkksM+h gsa rks izd`fr ds tks 5 rro gs oks vksj gh reksiz/kku curs tkosaxs ;k lrksiz/kku cusaxs\ vksj gh reksiz/kku curs tkosaxsa So, are degraded vibrations increasing in the entire world or are pure vibrations increasing? (Everyone said Degraded) The degraded vibrations are increasing. And are the 5 elements of the nature non-living or living? (Everyone said They are living) The non-living elements will not grasp the knowledge. And a handful of souls grasp the knowledge, who are very few. So, will the five elements of nature go on becoming more tamopradhan or will they become satopradhan (dominated by the quality of goodness and purity)? They will go on becoming even more tamopradhan. vksj vhkh rks vo;dr ok.kh esa czkã.kksa ds fy;s rks [kkl cksy fn;k gs cgqr [krjukd ckr cksy nh gsa ¼fdlh us dgk & D;k ckck\½ D;k ckck\ vhkh rd rks czkã.kksa dh ym+kbz Fkh 5 fodkjksa ds lkfka D;k\ 5 fodkj dke] dzks/k] ykshk] eksg] vgadkj vksj [kqnk u [kklrk dgs vycsykiu HkhA lqlrha fqj vhkh chp esa cksyk fd ek;k fgeer gkj xbz gsa fgeer gkjrs&gkjrs ckj&ckj tsls dksek esa xbza D;k\ fqj Hkh ym+kbz ymrh jgha vk[kjhu Qka gks xbza lkdkj kjhj Qka gks x;ka And now it has especially been said for the Brahmins in the avyakta vani; a very dangerous issue has been said. (Someone said What Baba?) What Baba? So far, the Brahmins had a fight with the five vices. What? The five vices, i.e. lust, anger, greed, attachment, ego and by chance carelessness as well. Laziness. Then, now, in between it was said that Maya has lost courage. While losing courage, she went into coma again and again. What? Even then she continued to fight. Ultimately she left. The corporeal body disappeared. tks yksdykt dk ca/ku Fkk] czkã.kksa dh nqfu;k esa ;k xq:vksa dks yksdykt dk ca/ku gksrk gs uka fd brus lc czkã.k Qkyksvj gsa mudks vhkh rd esa euk djrh jgh fd Hkxoku ugha vk;k gqvk gs lkdkj esaa vanj ls rks jko.k ek;k tkurk Fkk fd ;s Hkxoku gsa ysfdu 9

10 vgadkj ds dkj.k ekurk ugha FkkA,sls gh ek;k csvh Hkh tkurh Fkh vanj ls ysfdu vgadkj ds dkj.k] dksulk vgadkj\ fd esjk VkbfVy D;k gs\ D;k VkbfVy gs\ loz kfdrokua esjk VkbfVy loz kfdrokua vxj dksbz nwljs cpps igys igpku ysaxs vksj ljs.mj gks tk;saxs rks VkbfVy fdlds ikl pyk tkosxk\ mugha ds ikl pyk tk;sxka blfy;s u esa thrs th e: xh u ejus nw xha kjhj jgrs&jgrs mugksus u ekuk u nwljksa dks ekuus fn;ka vksj kjhj NwV x;ka vc yksdykt ds cu/ku ls rks Qzh gks xbza The bondage of public honour that was there, there is bondage of public honour in the world of Brahmins or among the gurus, isn t there? (There is a bondage that) I have so many Brahmin followers; up until now I kept denying that God has come in a corporeal form. From within, Ravan Maya knew that this one is God. But due to ego, he did not use to accept. Similarly, daughter Maya too knew from within but because of ego; which ego? That, what is my title? What is the title? Almighty (sarvashaktiman). My title is almighty. If other children recognize (God) before me and if they surrender, then who will receive the title? It will be received by them (those who surrender). (Maya says), That is why I will not die alive and I will not let (someone else) die alive either. As long as she lived in her body, neither did she accept nor did she allow others to accept. And (now) she has left the body. Now she has become free from the bondage of public honour. tks cm+s&cm+s xq: gksrs gsa oks bz ojh; Kku tc lqurs gs] izn kzuh oxsjg esa rks bruk rks eku ysrs gsa fd ijekrek lozo;kih ugha gsa vunj ls le> ysrs gsaa ysfdu vius psyksa ds lkeus dhkh Lohdkj ugha djrsa yksdykt dk ca/ku gksrk gsa rks ;s yksdykt dk ca/ku kjhj jgrs&jgrs tcjnlr FkkA lppkbz dks mxyus dh fgeer gh ugha FkhA vksj vc\ vc yksdykt dk ca/ku VwV x;ka rks tks yksdykt dk ca/ku VwV x;k rks vc oks vkrek Lora= gks xbz yksdykt ds ca/ku ls ;k vhkh Hkh ijra= gs\ ga\ Lora= gks xbza vc flqz,d ckr dk ca/ku gs lw{ea When the big gurus listen to the Godly knowledge in the exhibitions etc. they at least accept that God is not omnipresent. They understand it from within, but they do not accept in front of their disciples. There is the bondage of public honour (for them). So, as long as she (Maya) lived in her body this bondage of public honour was very strong. She had no courage to speak out the truth at all. And now? Now the bondage of public honour has gone. So, when the bondage of public honour has gone; now, is the soul free from the bondage of public honour or is it still dependant? Hum? She has become free. Now there is a subtle bondage of just one thing lw{e kjhj tks gs] oks lw{e kjhj mugha vkrekvksa dks feyrk gs tks lw;zoa kh idds ugha gksrsa D;k\ Kku panzek czãka mlls dksulk oa k kq: gksrk gs\ panzoa ka fo/kfez;ksa ds chp esa lw;zoaf k;ksa ds eqdkcys panzoa k gh rks lcls Å pk gsa vksj mldk tks eqf[k;k gs oks gh lw{e kjhj /kkj.k djrk gs rks vksj dksulh fo/kehz vkrek jg tkosxh tks lw{e kjhj /kkj.k u djs\ tc panzoaf k;ksa dk eqf[k;k gh Kku lw;z dks ugha igpku ikrk kjhj jgrs&jgrsa rks muds QkyksvlZ Hkh ugha igpku ldrsa..only those souls receive a subtle body, who are not firm Suryavanshis (belonging to the Sun Dynasty). What? Which dynasty does the moon of knowledge Brahma, start? The moon dynasty (Chandravansh). When compared to the Suryavansh, among the vidharmis (those who have the inculcations opposite to that said by the Father), the Moon dynasty is the 10

11 highest. And when its head himself assumes a subtle body, then which other vidharmi soul will be left out who doesn t assume a subtle body? When the head of the followers of the moon dynasty himself wasn t able to recognize the Sun of knowledge as long as he was alive, then his followers cannot recognize (the Sun of knowledge) as well. vksj bl Kku panzek czãk dh jgcjh esa iyus okys tks vksj&vksj /kez gsa nwljs&nwljs /kez] tks }kij;qx ls vkrs gsa bczkfge dk blyke /kez] cq)] dzkblv] mu /keksz esa tks duovz gksus okyh vkrek;sa gs oks Hkh rks vk djds fla/k gsnjkckn esa czkã.k cuh Fkh uka fd ugha cuh Fkh\ fla/k] gsnjkckn esa vkdj czkã.k cuha blfy;s ml le; gsnjkckn dh vkcknh uks yk[k FkhA ubz nqfu;k kq: gksrh gs rks vkcknh fdruh gksrh gs\ uks yk[ka rks kwfvax Hkh fdrus ls kq: gksrh gsa ¼fdlh us dgk & uks yk[k½ uks yk[k lsa mu uks yk[k vkrekvksa ds chp esa lw;zoaf k;ksa vksj panzoaf k;ksa dks NksM+ nksa rks ckn esa dksuls oa k ds vkrs gsa tks duovz gq;s Hkh vk x;s\ blykeha And the (followers of the) other religions, which come since the Copper Age, who were the ones to sustain under the guidance of the moon of knowledge Brahma, the souls that convert in the Islam religion of Abraham, Buddha, Christ; they too had come to Sindh Hyderabad and become Brahmins, hadn t they? Or had they not become? They came to Sindh Hyderabad and became Brahmins. That is why at that time, the population of Hyderabad was nine lakhs (900 thousands). When the new world begins what is the population? Nine lakhs. So, with how many souls does the shooting begin as well? (Someone said Nine lakhs) With nine lakhs. Among those nine lakh souls leave the Suryavanshis and Chandravanshis. So, after that which dynasty enters, which include the converted ones too? The Islamic souls. blykfe;ksa dh dksbz eqf[k;k Hkh vkrek;sa gksxh fd ugha gksaxh vkbz gqbz\ duovz gksus okyksa esa dksbz lcls igys duovz gq;s gksaxs\ oks dksu Fks\ ¼fdlh us dgk & ek;k½ oks oks gh vkrek;sa gs tks jk/kk d`.k ds lr;qx esa Hkh okfjlnkj curs gsa vksj ;gk laxe;qx esa Hkh czãk ckck us tsls mugs viuk okfjlnkj cukdj j[kka dksu vkrek;sa Fkh oks\ HkkbZ;ksa esa dksu Fkk\ ¼lcus dgk & fo ofd kksj HkkŽ fo ofd kksj HkkÅ ds gkfk esa lkjk ;K dk nkjksenkj lksai ds j[krs Fks ckcka vksj du;kvksa ekrkvksa ds chp esa\ eeek ds kjhj NksM+us ds ckn lcls tklrh [kkrjh fdldh gksrh Fkh\ ¼lcus dgk & dqekfjdk½ eqjyh esa cksyk bu lc flrkjksa esa lcls tklrh [kkrjh gksrh gs dqekfjdk dha rks [kkfrjh djus okyk dksu eq[;\ [kqn czãk ckcka rks lcls tklrh [kkrjh dha Will there be any chief souls belonging to Islam or not who had come? Among those who converted, will there be some who converted first? Who were they? (Someone said Maya) They are the same souls, which become the heirs of Radha and Krishna even in the Golden Age. And even here in the Confluence Age, Brahma Baba made them his heirs. Which souls were they? Who was the one among the brothers? (Everyone said Vishwakishore bhau). Baba used to entrust all the settlements of the yagya in the hands of Vishwakishore Bhau. And who among the virgins and mothers? After Mamma had left her body, who was regarded the most? [Everyone said Kumarika (Dadi)] It has been said in the Murli, Among all these stars, Kumarika receives regard the most. So, who was the main person to regard (her)? Brahma Baba himself. So, he regarded (her) the most. 11

12 vius panzoa k ds tks QkyksvlZ Fks muesa ls fdlh dh [kkfrjh D;ksa ugha dh\ gsa\ ¼fdlh us dgk & og lw;zoa kh esa,m+ gksrs gs½ rks lkjs gh lw;zoaf k;ksa esa,m gks tkrs gs\ lkjs rks ugha gks tkrs gksaxsa tks lw;zoaf k;ksa esa,m gks tkrs gs oks rks panzoa k dks R;kx nsrs gksaxs uka R;kx djds rc rks b/kj vk;saxsa vius dks VªkalQj djsaxs uka vksj tks VªkalQj ugha djrs gs Hky kjhj NwV tk;s],sls vksj&vksj /keksz esa Hkh gksrk gsa tks vius /kez ds idds gksaxs oks dhkh duovz ugha gksaxs czkã.k /kez esaa D;k\ gs fd ugha,sls\ ¼lcus dgk & gs½ <+sj lkjs gsa,sls ;gk Hkh gsaa tks idds panzoa kh gksrs gsa rks Hkxoku vk tk;s pkgs Hkxoku dk cki vk tk;s oks ugha duovz gks ldrsa Why did he not regard anyone among the followers of his Moon Dynasty? (Someone said They are added to the Suryavanshis) So, are all of them added to the Suryavanshis? All of them must not be getting added. So, the ones who are added to the Suryavanshis will renounce the Moon Dynasty, will they not? They will come here only after renouncing. They will transfer themselves, will they not? And those who do not transfer, even if they have to leave their bodies; it happens like this in other religions too. Those who are firm in their religion will never convert in the Brahmin religion. What? Are there such ones or not? (Everyone said there are) There are many. It is a similar case here. Those who are firm Chandravanshis, they cannot convert whether God or the Father of God comes. dqn vkrek;sa,slh fudyrha gs] tks Kku lw;z dks igpku ysrh gsa oks fot;ekyk esa vk tkrh gsa gs oks Hkh Kku punzek dks QkWyks djus okysa D;k\ tks fo.kq ds QkWyksvj gksaxs] fo.kq dk dusd ku flqz czãk dh vksj gh T;knk gksrk gs] czãkiqjh esa gh T;knk dusd ku gksrk gs fo.kq oaf k;ksa dk ;k fo.kq dk ;k kadjiqjh esa Hkh dusd ku gksrk gs\ ¼fdlh us dqn dgk½ nksuksa ds lkfk cjkcj dusd ku gsa ¼fdlh us dqn dgk½ blfy;s oks panzoaf k;ksa dks Hkh vpnh rjg igpku ysrs gs vksj lw;zoaf k;ksa dks Hkh vpnh rjg igpku ysrs gsa vksj ikyk cny ysrs gsa ysfdu tks czãk ds QkWyksvlZ esa panzoa k ls uhph dsvfxjh dh vkrek;sa vkrh gsa mudh xksn esa iyrh gs] [ksyrh gs muesa tks eq[; gs blyke /kje okys] mudh eqf[k;k gs ek;ka Some such souls emerge, who recognize the Sun of knowledge. They are included in the rosary of victory (vijaymala). They too are the followers of the moon of knowledge. What? Those who are the followers of Vishnu; does Vishnu have more connection only with Brahma the most, or do those who belong to the Vishnu s dynasty or does Vishnu have more connection with the abode of Brahma (Brahmapuri) or do they have connection with the abode of Shankar (Shankarpuri) as well? (Someone said something) He has equal connection with both of them. (Someone said something) That is why they recognize the Chandravanshis as well as the Suryavanshis very well. And they change their sides. But among the followers of Brahma, the souls which are of a lower category than the Chandravanshis, sustain and play in his (Brahma s) lap, among them, the main ones are those belonging to Islam religion, their chief is Maya. ftldks ckck dgrs gsa csvha mldks dke fn;k gqvk gsa D;k dke fn;k gqvk gs\ tks Jher ij ugha pyrs gs mudks [kwc QFkdkvksA ;s dke czãk us fn;k gs ;k f ko us fn;k gs\ gsa\ ¼fdlh us dgk & czãk½ czãk us fn;k gs\ ;s dke f kockck us fn;k gsa tks dke fn;k gqvk gks cki us fd tks Jher ij ugha pyrs gs mudks [kwc QFkdkvksA ;s dke ugha gs\ ;s Jher ugha gs\ dqn Hkh djks ysfdu tks dke fn;k gs oks djds fn[kkvksa rks fdruh cm+h ennxkj gks xbza ysfdu oks ek;k cki dh xksn esa ugha iyrh gsa fdldh xksn esa iyrh 12

13 gs\ czãk ek dh xksn esa iyrh gsa vksj tks Hkh mlds ek;koh iaqxjs gs oks Hkh ek dh xksn esa iyrs gsa blfy;s dzkblv vksj fdzf p;ul dh jkf k d`.k ls feykbz tkrh gsa D;k\ The one whom Baba calls daughter. She has been assigned a task. Which task has been assigned to her? Shake those who do not follow the shrimat very much. Has this task been assigned (to her) by Brahma or by Shiv? Hum? (Someone said Brahma) Has Brahma assigned the task? Shivbaba has assigned this task. The Father has assigned the task that you shake those people very much who do not follow the shrimat. Is this not a task? Is this not the shrimat? Do whatever you want, but complete the task. So, she became such a big helper. But that Maya does not sustain in the lap of the Father. In whose lap does she sustain? She sustains in the lap of mother Brahma. And all her illusive cubs too sustain in the mother s lap. That is why the horoscope of Christ and Christians are matched with Krishna. What? dzkblv dh jkf k d`.k ls feykbz tkrh gsa fdzf p;ul tks gs oks dksuls tkuoj dks nw/k Hkkr f[kykrs gs vksj [kwc mldh [kkfrjh djrs gs\ gsa\ dqrrksa dks cgqr I;kj feyrk gsa ¼fdlh us dgk & ikyrs gsa½ gk ] dksbz dfo us xhr Hkh cuk, fn;k & dqrrksa dks feyrk nw/k Hkkr] cpps Hkw[kksa fpyykrs gsa rks eqjyh esa cksyk gs & bu lhkh flrkjksa esa lcls tklrh [kkfrjh gksrh gs ¼lcus dgk & dqekfjdk dh½ dqekfjdk dha f kockck [kkfrjh djrs gs ;k dksbz nsg/kkjh [kkfrjh djrk gs\ The horoscope of Christ is matched with Krishna.Which is the animal whom the Christians feed with milk and rice and considerate them a lot? Hum? The dogs receive a lot of love (from them). (Someone said They rear them) Yes, a poet has also made a song Kutton ko miltaa doodh bhaat, bachchey bhookhon chillatey hain (The dogs get milk and rice to eat, while the poor children cry of hunger) So, it has been said in the Murli, Among all these stars, who is regarded the most? (Everyone said Kumarka) Kumarka. Does Shivbaba regard (her) or does any bodily being regard her? ¼lcus dgk & nsg/kkjh½ dksbz dgrk gs f kockck [kkfrjh djrk gsa vhkh Hkh tks vo;dr okf.k;ka vk jgh gs muesa ed[kuckth dqekjdk nknh dh dksu dj jgk gs\ f kockck dj jgk gs ;k czãk ckck dj jgk gs\ ¼fdlh us dgk & czãk ckck½ ¼fdlh us dgk & rhkh rks cksyk nknh Hkh ok.kh pyk;sxha½ ¼ckck us b kkjk djds dgk & gkaa½ D;ksa\ vius QkyksvlZ tks blykeoa kh <+sj ds <+sj gs czkã.kksa dh nqfu;k esa muds fy;s ok.kh ugha pyk;sxh\ ugha pykuh pkfg;s\ dksu ikyuk djsxk\ lw;zoaf k;ksa dh ikyuk djsxh\ lw;zoa kh mudh ckr dks ekusaxs\ ugha ekusaxsa (Everyone said Bodily being) Someone says that it is Shivbaba who regards (her). Even now, who is buttering Kumarka Dadi in the Avyakta Vanis that are coming (i.e. being narrated)? Is Shivbaba buttering or is Brahma Baba buttering? (Someone said Brahma Baba) (Someone said Only then has it been said that Dadi too will narrate vani) (Baba said yes through gestures) Why? Will she not narrate vani for her numerous followers who belong to the Islamic dynasty in the world of Brahmins? Should she not narrate? Who will nurture them? Will she nurture the Suryavanshis? Will the Suryavanshis accept her versions? They will not. 13

14 rks czãk dh xksn esa oks iyrs gs] ikyuk ysrh gs uka vc ikyuk ysus okys dh cqf) esa vpnh rjg csb x;k] D;k\ D;k csb x;k gs\ fd esus tks dke djuk Fkk oks dj fy;ka D;k\ tks djuk Fkk lks dj fy;ka vc mldh n`f V esa vk x;k fd esjk ikvz D;k gs\ igys rks nsg ds ca/ku esa FkhA gsa\ pkgrs gq;s Hkh,M+okal ikvhz esa lkeus tk djds dkslz ugha ys ldrh Fkh] Hkêh ugha dj ldrh Fkh vksj vc rks lw{e kjhj fey x;ka oks rks Lora= gsa tgka dgha Hkh Hkêh gksrh gks] tgka dgha Hkh,M+okal dkslz pyrk gks ogka tk djds vius tks QkyksvlZ gsa] muesa izos k djds vksj le> ldrh gs] ns[k ldrh gs tku ldrh gs] cki dks igpku ldrh gsa So, they receive sustenance in Brahma s lap; she receives sustenance, does she not? Now it has fitted very well in the intellect of the one who received sustenance; what? What has fitted (in her intellect)? (That) I have performed the task that I had to. What? I have done whatever I was supposed to do. Now she has visualized, what her part is. Earlier she had the bondage of the body. Hum? Despite her desire, she could not have taken the course by visiting the Advance Party in front, she could not have attended the bhatti and now she has received the subtle body. She is free. She can understand, observe, know and recognize the Father by entering in her followers wherever bhatti is being organized, advance course is being narrated. ¼fdlh us iwnk & flqz muds QkyksvlZ esa djrh gs D;k\½ czãk dh vkrek us vhkh rd iwjk&iwjk igpku fy;k\ ¼lcus dgk & ugha½ vhkh Hkh i<+kbz pkyw gsa rks tks blykeoaf k;ksa ds eqf[k;k gksaxs lsds.m ukjk;.k lr;qx ds oks igys igpku ysaxs D;k\ rks fu p;cqf) vfu p;cqf)] vfu p;cqf)] fu p;cqf)a ;s pdz pyrk jgsxka vksj blds QkmUMs ku Mkyus okys rks ge cpps gh gsa gekjk D;k gky gs\ gsa\ ¼fdlh us dqn dgk½ fu p;cqf) vksj dhkh vfu p;cqf)a ek;k ikb i<+krh gs rks fu p;cqf) ugha gksrs gsa gsa\ ek;k tc ikb i<+k; nsrh gs rks vfu p;cqf) gks tkrs gsa gksrs gs fd ugha\ ¼fdlh us dgk & ugha gksrs½ ugha gksrs\ ¼fdlh us dgk & ijh{kk vkrh gs ysfdu½ FkksM+k fgykrh rks gsa ¼fdlh us dgk & Jher ij ugha pyus nsrh½ Jher ij ugha pyus nsrh\ ekuk fgyk fn;ka ¼fdlh us dgk & oks etcwj gs uk ckck½ etcwjh D;k pht gksrh gs\ rks vc ;s pyrk jgsxka (Someone asked Does she enter only in her followers?) Has Brahma s soul so far recognized completely? (Everyone said No) Even now the study is going on. So, will the head of the Islam dynasty, the second Narayan of the Golden Age, recognize first? So, faithful intellect, doubtful intellect; doubtful intellect, faithful intellect. This cycle will go on. And it is we children who lay the foundation for this. What is our condition? Hum? (Someone said something) Sometimes we are of faithful intellect and sometimes of doubtful intellect. When Maya teaches a lesson, we do not develop a faithful intellect. Hum? When Maya teaches us lessons, we develop doubtful intellect. Do we or don t we? (Someone said We do not) Don t you? (Someone said We do face the test, but..) She does shake a little. (Someone said She does not allow us to follow the shrimat) Does she not allow us to follow the shrimat? It means that she shook us. (Someone said, We are compelled, aren t we Baba?) What is compulsion? So, now this will continue ek;k lg;ksxh Hkh cusxha vksj ek;k fojks/kh Hkh cusxha ;s buflijsfvax ikvhz gsa D;k\ buflijsfvax ikvhz dk nwljk xzqi gsa igyk xzqi gs & czãk vksj czãk ds QkyksvlZ dka vksj nwljk xzqi gs & blyke /kez esa duovz gksus okys ukjk;.k&ukjk;.kh vksj muds 14

15 QkyksvlZ dka,sls gh ;s xzqik izr;{k gksrs tkosaxsa,d ds ckn,da vksj oks vkrek;sa,m+okal ikvhz okyksa dks buflijsv djrh jgsaxha ¼fdlh us iwnk & ejus ds ckn\½ ugha] tc,m+okal ikvhz okyh cht:ik vkrekvksa esa izos k djrh gs rks mudh cht:ik LVst cu tkrh gs & fu p;cqf) cu tkrh gsa vksj,m+okal okyksa dks buflijsv djrh gs enn djrh gsa mudk meax mrlkg fnu nqxuk jkr pksxquk c<+ tkrk gs Hkys rkelh kjhj gs] rkelh laldkj gs] iwjs cunj leiznk; gsa ysfdu tc lw{e kjhj /kkj.k djrh gs] oks gh vkrek, rks vius csfld okys QkyksvlZ esa tkdj izos k djrh gsa fqj mudks HkM+dk;saxhA.Maya will become a helper as well as an opponent. It is inspiriting party. What? It is the second group of the inspiriting party. The first group is of Brahma and Brahma s followers. And the second group is of Narayan and Narayani and his followers, who convert to the Islam religion (in the Copper Age). In this manner these groups will go on revealing one after the other. And those souls will keep inspiriting the people belonging to the advance party. (Someone asked Is it after dying?) No, when they enter in the seed-form souls of the advance party, they assume the seed-form stage; they develop faithful intellect. And they inspirit (i.e. inspire) those who belong to the advance party; they help them. Their (the one in whom they enter) zeal and enthusiasm increases by leaps and bounds although their body is degraded, their sanskars are degraded and they completely belong to the monkey community. But when they assume the subtle body, the same souls enter in their followers from the basic party. Then they will provoke them. tsls czãk dh vkrek Hkh vhkh nks rjg dk ikvz ctk jgh gsa dsls&2\ cht:ik LVst esa vkrh gs,m+okal Kku lqurh gs] lcls igys fdldh vkrek Kku lqurh gs\ ¼lcus dgk & czãk½ gsa\ osls Hkh dgrs gs HkfDrekxZ esaa tgka&tgka jkek;.k gksrh gs uk] rks guwekuth igys igqap tkrs gsa guwekuth cgqr vpns] D;k uke & vkschfm;uv loszuv Fks uka gs\ rks ckinknk Hkh vkschfm;uv loszuv cuds ikvz ctk;s jgs gsaa rks cht:ik LVst esa,m+okal ds lg;ksxh curs gs meax mrlkg c<+krs gsa vksj tc lw{e kjhj /kkj.k djrs gsa] cht:ik LVst [kre gks tkrh gs rks tks Hkh ogka panzoa kh gs mu panzoaf k;ksa dh ed[kuckth djsaxs t:ja rks ;s pyrk jgrk gsa For example, the soul of Brahma as well, is playing two kinds of parts now. Which kinds of parts? When it attains a seed-form stage, when it listens to the advanced knowledge; whose soul listens to the knowledge first? (Everyone said Brahma) Hum? Even otherwise, it is said in the path of worship that wherever the story of Ramayana is recited, Hanumanji reaches that place first. Hanumanji was a very good.what do they call.obedient servant, wasn t he? Hum? So, Bapdada too is playing a part as an obedient servant. So, in a seed-form stage he becomes helper to the advance (party), increases the zeal and enthusiasm and when he assumes a subtle body, when the seed-form stage ends, then which ever souls belonging to the Moon Dynasty are there, he will certainly flatter those Chandravanshis. So, this goes on. tks iz u fd;k Fkk] fdlus fd;k Fkk vhkh\ vhkh iz u fdlus fd;k Fkk ek;k ds ckjs esa\ gsa\ D;k\ gsa\ D;k iz u fd;k Fkk\ ¼fdlh us dgk & ek;k D;ksa vkrh gs\½ gka ;s ckr gs] ek;k D;ksa vkrh gs\ vhkh rks kjhj NksM+ fn;k] vc D;ksa vkrh gs\ vc blfy;s vkrh gs] fd vo;dr ok.kh esa cksyk gqvk gs] tc dksbz lc rjhds ls gkj tkrk gs] Fkd tkrk gsa] cksyk uk ek;k Fkd pqdh gsa vo;dr ok.kh esa D;k cksyk\ ek;k Fkd pqdh gsa loz kfdroku dk VkbVy rks feyka gs mldka ysfdu loz kfdroku ds vkxs ek;k Fkd pqdh gsa ¼fdlh us dgk & cki ds vkxs½ gka cki ds vkxs] ek;k Fkd pqdh gsa rks tc dksbz lc rjg ls Fkd 15

16 tkrk gs] rks dgha ls enn feyus dh vk kk djrk gs fd ugha\ ¼lcus dgk & djrk gs½ dgha ls dksbz enn fey tk;sa Who had raised the question just now? Who had raised the question about Maya just now? Hum? What? Hum? What had you questioned? (Someone said Why does Maya come?) Yes, this is the topic, why does Maya come? Now that she has left her body; why does she still come? She still comes because it has been said in an avyakta vani that when someone suffers defeat in all ways, when one becomes tired; it has been said, Maya has become tired, hasn t it? What was said in the Avyakt Vani? (It was said), Maya has become tired. She did receive the title of almighty. It is her (title). Nevertheless, Maya has become tired in front of the Almighty. (Someone said In front of the Father) Yes, Maya has become tired in front of the Father. So, when someone becomes tired in all ways, then does he expect help from somewhere or not? (Everyone said he does). (He thinks), I should receive some help from somewhere. ek;k jko.k ds nl :Ik gsa ikap rks eq[; gs fodkja dke] dzks/k] ykshk] eksg] vgadkja vksj ikap gs lg;ksxh & izd`fr ds 5 tm+ rroa psru; vkrek;sa Hkh gsaa oks ikapa i`foh] ty] ok;q] vfxu] vkdk ka tks 5 rro gsa vksj mudk la?kkr izd`fr gs ml izd`fr ekrk ls] tc ek;k Fkd xbz kjhj Hkh NwV x;k rks izd`fr ekrk ls ek;k us gkfk feyk; fy;ka enn djks larks kh ekrka rks 5 fodkjksa us rks ckik ds cppksa dk dqn Hkh ugha vhkh rd fcxkm+ ik;ka cpps cjdjkj gsa ftunk gsa ek;k 2] 4] 8 cppksa dks v/kejk dj ik;k gksxka ysfdu ekj ugha ikbz vejukfk ds cppksa dksa [kqn ej xbz kjhj lsa rks mlus ;qfdr viukbza D;k\ fd tks izd`fr fd 5 rroksa ds la?kkr okyh izd`fr ekrk gs mlls gkfk feyk fy;ka rks gksf k;kjh dk dke fd;k ;k cq)qius dk dke fd;k\ ¼lcus dgk & gksf k;kjh dk½ gksf k;kjh dk dke fd;ka There are ten forms of Maya Ravan. The main five (forms) are the vices. Lust, anger, greed, attachment, ego. And (the remaining) five are the helpers the five elements of nature. Those five are living souls as well. Earth, water, wind, fire, sky. The combination of the five elements is Nature, Mother Nature.When Maya became tired, when she left her body as well, she shook hands with Mother Nature, (saying), Help mother Santoshi (a title of the goddess). So, the 5 vices were not able to bring any damage to the Father s children so far. Children are alive. Maya must have been able to make 2, 4, 8 children half-dead. But she has not been able to kill the children of Amarnath. She herself died physically. So, she adopted a tact. What? She shook hands with the composite form of the five elements of nature, i.e. Mother Nature. So, did she perform a clever job or a task of foolishness? (Everyone said Of cleverness) She performed a clever task. tks izd`fr ekrk gs tks izd`fr tc lrksiz/kku curh gs rks lr;qx esa nsorkvksa dh vpnh rs vpnh ikyuk djrh gsa vksj tc reksiz/kku curh gs rks lkjh nqfu;k dk la?kkj djus ds fuferr cu tkrh gsa D;k\ 63 tueksa ls 5 fodkjksa dk izdksi gksrk vk;k ekuoh; l`f V ds ÅijA ysfdu l`f V vhkh Hkh cjdjkj gsa ysfdu tc izd`fr rkelh curh gs] reksiz/kku curh gs] i`foh HkwdEi ykrh gsa ty & lkxj esa ck<+ vk tk;sxha mrrjh /kzqo vksj nf{k.kh /kzqo ij ehyksa Å ps igkm+ gsa cqz ds] oks lc fi?kyds lkxj esa vk;saxs rks ck<+ vk tk,xha bruh cm+h ck<+ vk;sxh fd tks Hkh egk}hi gs oks lc leqnz ds vanj Mwc tk;saxsa i`foh HkwdEi yk;sxh vksj ty ck<+ yk;sxh] vksj vfxu ¼fdlh us dgk & tyk;sxh½ nsork D;k djsaxs\ oks,ve cec QwVsaxs pkjksa rjqa vkx gh vkxa 16