HONORABLE T. EMMET CLARIE, U.S.D.J.

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1 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT JNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Plaintiffs, Criminal Number vs. H (TEC) VICTOR MANUEL GERENA, et al, Defendants. PROCEEDINGS BEFORE: HONORABLE T. EMMET CLARIE, U.S.D.J. A P P E A R A N C E S For the Plaintiffs: For the Defendants: CARMEN ESPINOSA VAN KIRK, ESQ. ALBERT S. CABROWSKI, ESQ. Assistant U.S. Attorneys 450 Main Street Hartford, Connecticut 0603 I " LINDA BACKIEL, ESQ. Attorney for Antonio Carnacho-Negron 424 W. Schoolhouse Lane Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 944 RAFAEL ANGLADA-LOPEZ, ESQ. Attorney for Ivonne Melendez-Carrion 6 East 45th Street New York, New York 007 CAPITOL COURT REPORTERS P.O. Box 532 Hartford, Connecticut 060

2 (Continued) DIANE POLAN, ESQ. Attorney for Elias Castro-Ramos 265 Church Street New Haven, Connecticut 0650 SHIPMAN & GOODWIN Attorneys for Carlos Ayes-Suarez 799 Main Street Hartford, connecticut 0603 BY : JAMES BERGEN, ESQ. RICHARD REEVE, ESQ. Assistant Federal Public Defender Attorney for Isaac Carnacho-Negron 234 Church Street New Haven, Connecituct 0650 l LEONARD WEINGLASS, ESQ. Attorney for Juan E. Segarra-Palmer 6 West 20th Street New York, New York. 00 AVERY & FRIEDMAN Attorneys for Jorge Farinacci-Garcia Six Beacon Street, Suite 520 Boston, Massachusetts 0208 BY: MICHAEL AVERY, ESQ. MARGARET P. LEVY, ESQ. Attorney for Angel Diaz-Ruiz 60 Washington Street Suite 402 Hartford, Conhecticut 0606 JOHN WILLIAMS, ESQ. Attorney for Hilton Fernandez-Diamante 5 Elm Street New Haven, Connecticut 0650 RONALD KUBY ESQ. Attorney for Luis Alfredo Colon-Osorio 3 Gay Street New York, New York 004 MICHAEL E. DEUTSCH, ESQ. Attorney for Orlando Gonzalez-Claudio 343 S. Dearborn Chicago, Illinois 60604

3 P R O C E E D I N G S THE COURT: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Call the roll, Madam Clerk, please. MS. POLAN: Diane Polan. Present. John Williams. MR. WILLIAMS: I'm here. MR. BERGEN: Jim Bergen. Juan Acevedo. MR. KUBY: He was ill when I saw him this morning; I don't know if he's going to be here or not. I will cover for him, and I'll speak to him in the next half hour to make sure that's acceptable. THE COURT: MR. KUBY: Very good. Ron Kuby. M,a,c Buckley. I Absent. 3 Jack Wieselman. t Absent. I MR. AVERY: MS. LEVY: Michael Avery. I'm present, Your Honor. Margaret Levy.

4 MS. VAN KIRK: Your Honor, we're going to submit a photocopy of that, because the exhibit that was submitted by counsel was incomplete. So we'll have a complete copy. Perhaps we can substitute it. THE COURT: Very well. The witness will resume the stand, please. -. [John Williamson resumed the witness stand.] THE COURT: Agent Williamson, you were sworn yesterday, and your testimony today will continue to be under oath. THE WITNESS: Yes, sir. MR. AVERY: If I could just have another minute, Your Honor. I don't quite have all my papers in order. The reason I don't quite have all my papers in order is a subject on which I would like to address the Court. I don't know, perhaps other counsel addressed this during'the time I,r9as absent, and if it is redun- dant, then I would apologize. I have to say I see no reason whatsoever for counsel in this case to be subjected to having their briefcases gone through in the excruciating detail in which our briefcases are examined as we come into this courtroom. I stood out there for several minutes while this was done. Of course, my briefcases had already

5 United States Government, there is no discussion in here of I 3 4 illegal activity, is there, sir? A. Well, they are alleging that the United States are the terrorists in Central America. 5 Q. Yes. So why did you seize this document? A. Well, again, I was aware that from my reading of 7 8 the affidavit, that the Macheteros had connections with groups in El Salvador, Nicaragua, Cuba, among other /I countries, and that this particular matter was specifically lo (lconcerned with activities in El Salvador and Nicaragua. l I 3 l2 I l 4 5 In addition, there is -- there are handwritten notations at the bottom of the second page, one of which is 4 Antonio M~ceo, M-a-c-e-o, Brigade, which I understood was a group that frequently traveled to Cuba. Q. You understood also that the Antonio Maceo Brigade 6 l7 is a legal organization, and organization; did you not? in no sense a clandestine 8 l A. I don't know very,'rnuch about the brigade, other than it was a group of individuals that traveled to Cuba frequently. Q. And there is a reference here to the PSP, which you understood was the Puerto Rican Socialist Party; did you not? A. Yes. I Q. And you know that that's a legal political party