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1 1 Is there a supernatural dimension, a world beyond the one we know? Is there life after death? Do angels exist? Can our dreams contain messages from Heaven? Can we tap into ancient secrets of the supernatural? Are healing miracles real? Sid Roth has spent over 35 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of It s Supernatural. SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world. My guest was a paramedic in an ambulance and one day, God speaks to him and says, I want you to pray for the sick in the ambulance. And he doesn t even believe in healing, but it s God, so he starts praying. His first four, 500 people, no one got healed. And then all of a sudden God started giving him dreams from Heaven on how to pray for the sick. He gets something like 80 percent of the people healed now. Anyone interested in those results? Many of you have read their web page and blog called The Praying Medic. And because he s on an ambulance and because he wants to protect the privacy of those people he s praying for in those circumstances, he s used that as a pen name. He s never revealed his name. He has never revealed his face for those obvious reasons. We ve been after him for two years. He finally said, Okay Sid, we re going to come on your show. I want to introduce to you for the first time, Dave Hayes, otherwise known as The Praying Medic. So let me tell you kind of a thumbnail sketch of Dave s background. Raised Catholic. At 12, he became an atheist. You hated the name of Jesus. DAVE: I did. I hated the name of Jesus. Very early on as a teenager I couldn t say the name without loathing and disgust. SID: You re a paramedic for some 30 years and one Memorial Day, two of your buddies tell you to read the same book. But you re not going to have any time. It s Memorial Day. Do you know how many calls medics get on Memorial Day? But this was, I think you were in the fire department at that time, were you? DAVE: I was. SID: Well you know how many fires and things happen on Memorial Day. You ll be too busy to read this book. The book is called, Left Behind. Do you know how many phone calls they got at the firehouse that day? None for 48 hours. None. You read the book. What effect did it have on you? DAVE: I had to do something. I had 48 hours with no calls. SID: You re an atheist. DAVE: And I m an atheist. And I had gotten into some personal problems with my paramedic partner. My pride had gotten the better of me and destroyed my friendship. And these guys had said, Hey, you might be interested in this book, Left Behind. And I thought, I don t read fiction. And I picked it up and I took it to the fire station, and I read it. And in the book, the Gospel of love is in this story, and I started to read it, and I got so convicted of the sin and the wrong things I had been doing all my life. And this presence showed up in the room, the presence of God. I didn t know what it was at the time. And he started to speak to me, and he said, You know, if you re such a good person, what about all these sins that you ve done, the

2 2 lies and all this other stuff. And I knew that night I had to make a decision. I could literally feel as if I did not make a decision to follow God that day, I would spend eternity in darkness. So with a lot of weeping and a lot of soul searching that night, crying literally on a wet pillow, and I said, God, if you are real, give me a voice to follow and I will follow you. This voice was blowing through my soul, this peaceful, serene voice that was speaking to me about how to treat people with love and compassion, and kindness, and that was how I met the Lord. SID: Twenty-five years, Dave had not had a dream. His wife prays for him and he has a dream. What did God tell you? DAVE: He said to me, I m going to show you what s wrong with your patients. I want you to pray with them and when you do, I ll heal them. Now the funny thing about this was just two months earlier I had a disagreement with my wife about healing and miracles. She insisted healing and miracles were for today. I said, No they re not. I don t know anyone who s had a miracle. I don t anyone who s been healed. I ve never seen a good testimony. So God has a funny sense of humor. A couple months after we have this argument, he says, Oh I am doing miracles and I m going to do them through you. SID: Okay. So what would you do? You would start praying for the sick. But he prays for hundreds and no one is healed. But then God started giving you something like 400 dreams on how simply to pray for the sick. And what results did you start getting as he started feeding you this simple information? DAVE: The dreams that I had really displayed how wonderful and loving, and good he is to his kids, because I would come home after praying a week with everybody in the ambulance. Nobody was healed. SID: Why did you keep it up, really? DAVE: Because he d give me another dream. I would go to sleep, I would have a dream. I m praying for people in the ambulance and they re getting healed. I d wake up in the morning and go, I really don t want to do this any more. But he kept giving me dreams and giving me dreams where I was praying for people, and they were being healed. So I figured eventually if I keep praying someone is going to get healed. SID: Now God, when he started healing people, did God do that other part? He would show you what was wrong with them? DAVE: He did. The first person I ever saw healed immediately was kind of a strange circumstance. I was on duty in the ambulance. I went into the grocery store to get a bottle of Gatorade because it was summer and it was hot. And as I m waiting in line, for some reason I closed my eyes and I saw in my mind s eye the word headaches. And I thought, well that s strange. And then I saw a picture of a woman with blond hair, and I was like, okay, I don t know what this is. But then I open my eyes and the woman in the vision was the woman in front of me at the checkout stand. And so I thought, okay, well maybe God wants me to pray for her.

3 3 DAVE: Do you happen to have a headache? Woman: I do have a headache. How did you know that? DAVE: Well I m the one that was sent from God to heal you. SID: You prayed for so many people that weren t healed. You couldn t have been very confident. DAVE: I wasn t. I had no confidence at all. But this was my first word of knowledge. So the Lord said, I want to heal her. You pray for her. And my faith just, boom, rocketed up. I had so much faith for healing at that point, even though the last three, 400 people weren t healed. So she had a headache, and she actually was buying some Tylenol and a bagel so she could take them, so she could get rid of the headache. Well I prayed for her and her headache is gone. That was my first miracle. SID: What did you think, a man that says God doesn t do miracles any more, a man that s tried and tried, and tried, nothing s happened. What happened with that first success inside you, Dave? DAVE: It absolutely changed my life. I started to see more and more miracles. And then it just grew. The more I kept praying, God gave me more dreams. He showed some different techniques. He showed me some obstacles that people have to healing. Just, he started to give me a little more revelation about healing works, the dynamics of it. And as I kept praying for people I saw more people healed. SID: I have to tell you, I sat under your teaching and there s something supernatural about it. It s got to be. It comes from God. And right after I sat under your teaching I went to the grocery store. First three people I prayed for, I didn t get 80 percent healed, all three of them were, I don t know, it s something like childlike faith that you teach from, and that simple teaching. In fact, when we come back, would you do a little teaching, revelation that God has given you on how people can be healed. And I can tell you right now, there s someone with a back problem and a neck problem, anything you have bone-wise that is hurting, you test it and see the goodness of God. You are healed in Jesus name. And when we come back I m going to have him teach a little bit of what God showed him. Be right back. We'll be right back to It's Supernatural. [commercial] We now return to It's Supernatural. SID: So The Praying Medic, Dave Hayes, is in his ambulance and now he s getting people healed of more than headaches. Tell me about the Muslim man that was in your ambulance.

4 4 DAVE: That was an amazing encounter that God completely set up. So I went on a call. It was a transfer from one hospital to another. This man, he had an extensive health history. He had kidney failure. He was on dialysis. He had a GI bleed that had been going on for three days and his hematocrit and hemoglobin were critical. He pretty much almost bled to death. So the Mercy doctor transfused six units of blood, called for us to transport him to another hospital for surgery. So we get him in the ambulance and I m looking at his hospital faith sheet and I see that he s Muslim, and I thought there s no way this guy is going to want me to pray for him. But we re getting to know each other and having some conversation. And I said, Hey, I d like to know if I could pray for you. DAVE: I sometimes see people healed. Man: What do you mean by healed? DAVE: I pray for people to be healed and God heals them. Man: That s fine. That will be cool. DAVE: What s bothering you the most right now? Man: I have killer this headache. DAVE: I just prayed for him. I said, I command this headache to go in Jesus name. And I asked him how the pain was. He said it s about a 7. I said, I m going to pray again. I prayed again. After the second time it was about a 5. I prayed again, it was about a 3. I prayed one more time. Persistence is the key, and he said all the pain was gone. He said it was gone. And I said, Well you just healed by a Jewish carpenter who died 2000 years ago. He said, You re a Christian, aren t you? And I said, Well yes I am. He goes, You know, there s something about you Christians. I just want to let you know that Jesus couldn t be God. And I said, Look, I don t want to argue with you about religion. I want to get you healed. So I said, Look, you ve got some serious bleeding going on. They re going to do surgery. Can I pray over your abdomen to be healed? He said, sure. So I prayed over his abdomen and he didn t feel anything different. We dropped him off in the ICU at the other hospital. A couple of days later on my day off work, I went into town to check up on some of the patients I prayed for. I went into his room and I said, How are you doing, man? Man: Hey, it s The Praying Medic. DAVE: How are you doing? Man: They re going to send me home. DAVE: What did they find? Man: Nothing.

5 5 DAVE: I said, What do you mean? He said, When I got here, they did endoscopy, they did more CAT scans, they checked my blood. They did everything. They couldn t find anything wrong with me as far as my internal bleeding goes. They didn t do surgery. They made me stay a couple days to make sure there was nothing wrong with me, but they re sending me home because I m completely healed. And I said, You know what? You need new kidneys. Let me pray for your kidneys. Because he was in kidney failure. He was on dialysis. So I prayed for his kidneys. That was probably the most amazing miracle I had seen in an ambulance. SID: Well I have to tell you something. I believe you had fun. DAVE: It was great. It was a kick. Are you kidding me? SID: Now tell you me. You ve had some 400-plus dreams from Heaven on how to pray for the sick. Give me one or two nuggets that are going to help people right this minute. DAVE: Well the first thing that I had to learn was that God has already given me and you, and all those people all the power, all the authority they need to heal. So we don t need to beg God for healing. We simply, Jesus said, Go heal the sick. He didn t say, beg my Father to heal the sick. He said, Go heal the sick. Raise the dead. So what I do, what I teach people is just go out and command sickness to leave. SID: Command? DAVE: Command. I command sickness to leave. I command disease to leave. I command the shoulder to be healed. I command neck pain to leave. I command bones to be healed, ligaments healed, nerves healed. You don t have to know a lot of anatomy. But to command the body s structures to be healed and command sickness to leave is a great to start. You will see very good results right away. SID: You heard, you say you just kept praying. You wouldn t stop. Is that important? DAVE: It is. And one of the other keys to operating successfully in healing is persistence. Okay. So in Luke, Chapter 11, right after Jesus taught the disciples how to pray, he taught them how to persist. Persistence is just something we have to learn how to do. SID: Now you teach on a subject. Frankly, I ve never heard anyone teach on this subject, and as a matter of fact, for an atheist that didn t believe in healing, you ve come a long way, Dave. DAVE: I have had an interesting journey. SID: But you teach on something which I ve read in the Bible, traveling in the Spirit. Phillip, when he prayed for the Ethiopian eunuch, the next moment, he was in another city. Tell me what this traveling in the Spirit is. DAVE: So a few years ago, the Lord started giving me dreams about traveling in the Spirit, about being picked up and located somewhere else, and dropped off for whatever his purposes

6 6 were. It seemed to me that there were a lot people who were having these experiences, but either they don t know that it s God or they don t understand the purpose for it. SID: You know, you talk about areas that few talk about, but you make it so simple and it s so biblical. Wait until you find out about the dream that Dave had about our healthcare system. Be right back. We'll be right back to It's Supernatural. [commercial] We now return to It's Supernatural. SID: Sid Roth here with Dave Hayes, otherwise known as The Praying Medic. You had a dream about our healthcare, Obamacare. This is very important to many people that are watching. What did God show you? DAVE: Well basically the dream suggested that God wants to do something with our healthcare that is completely different than what the government wants for healthcare. And I think one of the things that the Lord wants to impress upon us is the fact that we re relying too much on insurance companies, on doctors, on the government to provide healthcare for us when Jesus came to be our healer. He is raising up an army. There are thousands of people out there in America, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands who are learning to operate in the supernatural. They re learning about healing, learning about words of knowledge. They re learning the kingdom principles that they need to release healing. If we had 100,000 believers out there in the world who would just pray for people to be healed, we could probably close down some hospitals. We probably wouldn t need as much healthcare insurance. And I think that s the Lord s heart, is he wants us to rely on him to be our healthcare system. SID: Here s the big question I have for you, Dave. You had an amazing experience. God himself told you to pray for the sick. Is what you re learning and teaching transferable? Can people get the same or better results than you? You re getting some 80 percent healed now. Can people do the same, just the average person? DAVE: I think they can do better. I m an average person. I didn t go to Bible College. I didn t go to seminary. I work as a paramedic. I work 48 hours a week. I m an average person. I don t have any special anointing. I have a bunch of dreams and I pray for a lot of people. But anyone can do this. The principles that Jesus gave us are simple. They re not complicated. And as we grow and as we practice I really do believe, I ve got a lot of testimonies from people and they said, this is so easy, it s so simple. Why do people make it complicated? And I don t think it needs to be complicated. SID: I agree. Could you briefly tell me the craziest miracle you ve ever had.

7 7 DAVE: The craziest miracle I ve ever had, okay, so a lot of what I do is ministry, is done on Facebook. I m connected to a lot of people. I got a prayer request on Facebook from a woman who went to a church. Her pastor was in kidney failure. He had gone into the hospital. The doctors, he was on kidney medication and he stopped taking his medication because he wanted to have a show of faith for his congregation that he was going to be healed. Well he ended up in kidney failure and the doctor said, You re going to need dialysis. Your kidney is shot. So she sent me a prayer request and she said, Would you please pray for my pastor. And I said, sure. That afternoon, I did a short prayer, a couple of minutes, prayed for him. That night I had a dream. In the dream I saw a man standing about 20 feet away from me and I knew that he needed a new kidney. He had a surgical opening in his side right below his rib cage. I walked over to him. I put my hand inside of his abdomen. I could feel his internal organs and then I pulled my hand out and the dream ended. Now I woke up in the morning and my wife and I were trying to figure out what this dream meant. I completely forgot about the fact that I prayed for a man the day before who needed a new kidney. It didn t make sense. It didn t click until I got an or a private message on Facebook from that woman who said, Praise report. Our pastor had his kidneys tested again and the doctor said his kidney is functioning a hundred percent normally. SID: Now I believe that if The Praying Medic will pray just a short minute prayer, commanding the spirit of infirmity to leave and commanding sickness to leave that thousands if not tens of thousands are going to be healed right now. Would you pray? DAVE: I will. I pray that God is going to bring complete and total healing for you from whatever disease, whatever infirmity, whatever sickness, whatever trauma you are suffering that as you listen to this message the Lord is going to release you from that bondage. He is going to heal you. He is going to give you joy and you re going to have an amazing testimony to the goodness of God. SID: And I charge you that it s not an accident you re watching this show right now. Dave already said he s just an average person. God wants to take the people that are not on TV that consider themselves nobodies to walk in miracles every day. So I charge you only believe. Read the Word. Only believe all, A-L-L, all things are possible to those who believe. That s you. We'll be right back to It's Supernatural. [commercial] SID: Next week on It s Supernatural. My guest went to Heaven and was given books to read on how to pierce the veil so that the Father s blessings can come upon us. How many of you would like to learn what he read in Heaven? Interested?

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