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1 1 Is there a supernatural dimension, a world beyond the one we know? Is there life after death? Do angels exist? Can our dreams contain messages from Heaven? Can we tap into ancient secrets of the supernatural? Are healing miracles real? Sid Roth has spent over 35 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of It s Supernatural. SID: Hello. Thank you. Welcome. Welcome to my world where it's naturally supernatural. My guest is a daughter of one of the generals of the faith. And I guess the devil felt if he could take her out he could kind of take away some of wonderful things her father Norvel Hayes did. Thirteen times, listen to me, 13 times, she had life-threatening disease from kidney failure to heart disease to cancer. And this young woman is moving higher than her father moved because this young woman represents and will teach you the most stubborn faith I've ever encountered. You know Zona, those people that don't know you, think, oh, what a glamorous life. Your buddies were your father's friends, Kenneth Hagin, Lester Sumrall, Joel Osteen's father. It just, I mean, it must have been wonderful for you. But it attracted you at a young age. You haven't even, you didn't see your mother since 10 years of age because your folks got a divorce. It must have been very crushing when they got the divorce just as a 10 year old. ZONA: It was a crushing. With my dad being a businessman and I had, my dad had prayed and told the Lord, said, "I don't believe that her mother is going to raise her to serve you. And Lord, I want you to deal with her. I would love to raise her and to teach her to serve God." And so one night I came in after visiting my dad in the hotel and I told my mother, I said, "It's not that I don't love you, but my dad needs me." And she said, "What do you mean?" I said, "I want to live with my dad because I want him to take me to Cleveland, Tennessee and raise me so I can play with my cousin." And so the next day she had my clothes ready and we left. SID: Now as a teenager, she had something awful happen to her. She had 42 growths all over her body. And she would go to the doctor, the doctor would cut it off and then they'd grow right back. So her father being a pragmatic businessman, Norvel Hayes, he said, "I m not taking you to the doctor any more." That made you even angrier. Then Kenneth Hagin gave him a thought. What did Kenneth Hagin tell him? ZONA: Well Kenneth Hagin told him, he said, "I hear that Zona has got back problems." And my dad looked at me and my dad said, "She wants me to take her and get those growths cut off and they all come back and bring their cousins with them." And so there was 42 growths on my body and Kenneth Hagin said, "Oh Norvel, I can curse those growths just like Jesus did the fig tree and they'll die and disappear." SID: But he then went to a meeting. He didn't curse the growths and your father is getting desperate. He's praying for all he's worth and he gets taken to Heaven. What happened in Heaven? ZONA: God spoke to him in an audible voice and He said, "How long are you going to put up with those growths on your daughter's body?" My dad said, "What do you mean? They're not on my body. They're on her body." He said, "You're the head of your house. What goes on in your house if it's not victory is your fault." And so He said, "You curse those growths in my name just like I did the fig tree and they'll die and disappear if you will believe and not doubt, son." So my

2 2 dad came back in his body, came in the living room. I was sitting with my boyfriend on the couch and he put his hands on my knees, and he cursed those growths at the root in Jesus' name, and commanded them to disappear. He asked my boyfriend, he said, "Do you believe and not doubt, son?" And he went, "Yeah, whatever you say, Mr. Hayes, whatever you say." SID: I don't blame him. ZONA: What are you going to say? And so anyway, my dad liked to drive me nuts for about six months. SID: What was he doing for six months? How was he praying for you and how often? ZONA: He wasn't praying for me at all. He was confessing a hundred times a day and they weren't going anywhere. And he was driving me out of my mind. So I met him in the hall one day and I said, "Look, Dad, you're about to drive me nuts." I said, "Look at these growths. They have not disappeared." He said, "I don't see nothing. I don't see nothing." He danced around like my dad could. He snapped his fingers, made a twirl and he said, "They don't have no choice. They have to die and disappear. Thank you Lord for removing the growths off my daughter's body." SID: And at the end of 90 days, what happens? ZONA: I was a sophomore in high school. And I came in and I was changing out my dresses. Sister Hagin had taught me how to sort my clothes out, as I didn't have a mother and she did. And so I was putting my spring, winter, summer and fall clothes together. And so I'd reach up and get a dress, and I'd see those growths, and I'd put the dress on the bed, and I'd reach up and I'd put the dress on the bed. About the sixth time of me reaching up, they were gone. That scared me. SID: Forty-two? ZONA: All of them were gone. SID: What affect did that have on you when they were all gone? ZONA: Well I like about passed out. I looked everywhere for them. And I ran out of the room and my dad met me, and I said, "Dad! Dad! Look! Look! Look! The growths are gone! They're gone! They're gone!" I said, "Dad, I don't even let anybody know I'm a Christian in school because I want to be popular." I said, "But you work for God. I don't do nothing and you mean He loves me this much to remove 42 growths and I don't even work for Him?" And the Spirit of God came on us and I'm telling you it was a glorious time. SID: Now you would think someone like that would serve God with every fiber of their being the rest of their life. But Zona gets married at 17. Her husband goes off to war, sends her, not a Dear John letter.

3 3 ZONA: Yeah, it was a Dear John letter. SID: A Dear Jane letter. He wants a divorce and she goes berserk. Don't go away. We'll pick up right here. We'll be right back to It's Supernatural. [commercial] We now return to It s Supernatural. SID: So Zona Hayes-Morrow had seen miracles her whole life. But she gets married young. Her husband goes off to war, divorces her and she goes out having fun, clubbing. But a couple by the name of the Goodwin's, gave your father a prophetic word. What was that? ZONA: The Goodwin's gave my father a word. The word said, "The thing that you want the most in the world is not going to happen. She's gone too far. She can't come back on her own. When she comes in at two or three o'clock in the morning you tell her you love her and you tell her I love her, and then you shut up, because she doesn't believe anybody loves her." And that's what my dad did. He created an atmosphere of love. He d stopped loving me because he was frustrated, because I was a backslid and I wasn't raised that way. And he created an atmosphere of the love of God in our home. SID: Now one day after that atmosphere of love, he puts his hands and prays for Zona on the bed. She's not there. She's out clubbing. She gets home. What happened, Zona? ZONA: When I got, right before he put his hands on the bed, Sid, he asked me, he said, "What is He going to have to do, what is God going to have to do bring you back to me." I said, "He'll have to knock me in the head." I said, "Dad, the church members haven't even come to see me in three years and I see them at the club." I said, "So why would I want to serve their God?" And so he said, "Well." So when I left he said, he put his hands on the bed. He said, "God, you heard her. You do what you have to bring her back." Four o'clock in the morning I came in. I lay down on the bed. I was on my right side and turned over, and my eyes were on a belt buckle. SID: Who's belt buckle. ZONA: My angel. He was as big as three men. And so his belt buckle was even with the edge of my bed. Well you can imagine how big it was. SID: Must have been pretty intimidating. You're a short woman. ZONA: And he was sitting Indian style and put his right leg over his left, and he got up, and he just stood there and looked at me. I tried to scream but nothing would come out. And he walked out of the room. I heard him walk down the hall. And I walked down the hall, and he was

4 4 waiting at the back door, and he walked through the wall. Well that just, I ran to my dad's room and he said, "Do you know who that was?" And I said, "Who?" He said, "Your angel." I said, "I don't want him. He's too big." I said, "I want a little one with wings." But he said, "No, it takes a big one for you. You're so flaky." SID: How would you like to pray for your backslidden children and have an angel that big come in. It was very intimidating to you. ZONA: It was very intimidating. SID: And then of course, she very quickly became a believer in the Messiah. Why, you saw the Spirit of Death three times in your life. Tell me what the Spirit of Death looks like. I can't even comprehend. ZONA: I saw the Spirit of Death the first time in Sheffield, Alabama. It walked through the wall and it said to me, he looked, he pointed his finger at me. He said, "I'm going to kill you because you're the closest thing I can get to Norvel Hayes." I wasn't even in ministry then. He said, "Because you," but he knew that eventually I would take the torch and be mentored by my father, which he's my mentor, and because it works. What he teaches works and I'm going to teach it, and I teach it now. SID: He has such passion against cancer, heart trouble. You have that same passion. ZONA: I have that same passion. And let me tell you, I had an appointment at the doctor's office and I had a sore on my foot. And the devil tries to sneak in any way he can. And I told him I was confirming my appointment, and something inside me, I had been doctoring a sore on my foot, and something inside of me said, it was the Holy Spirit, said, "Oh, I need for you to look at a place on my foot." I went in and the doctor said, I wasn't going tell him. I wasn't going say anything. He said, "You want me to look at a place on your foot?" I said, "Yes, sir." He looked at it and he said, "Surgery in the morning at eight o'clock." It was three malignant cancer cells inside of my foot, I mean a micro inch, just micro from the bone. And they of course, and what did I do? I had to, God met me where my faith was because I didn't even know anything was going on. But the devil meant to sneak in. But the Holy Spirit will speak through you when you give your life to Him, and He knows everything. SID: Tell me about, I'm curious, what does the Spirit of Death look like? ZONA: It looks like it just exactly, it's black and it had, it pointed its finger. It has a hood. When I was in Birmingham, Alabama, the last time the Spirit of Death appeared to me, he stood right by my bed. I stood up out of my bed and I looked at him face to face. He said, "I'm going to kill you because you're not carrying this message on how to make the devil leave you alone." He said, "I'm not going to leave people alone." I said, "Oh yeah, you're going to leave. I bind you and I command you to go from me never to return again." And you have to say it with authority because the devil works with authority. You don't have to scream. It's all in the way you say it. Because he's under your feet and you have to tell the devil to go. The Spirit of Death, and he left in a split second and he's never been back.

5 5 SID: Well you know, she has insight into how to fight in the invisible world. Most people, they get the doctor's report. They have the symptoms inside of them and they don't understand that the battle of faith is based on the Word of God in the invisible world, and they pray one prayer, they mean it and nothing happens. But you prayed over and over again. When we come back, I want you to talk to me about a couple of the life-threatening conditions you had and how you got rid of them in the power of Jesus. It's different. You know, I was talking to her dad, Norvel Hayes, and he said to me, "Most Christians, even spirit-filled Christians, don't understand how faith operates." We'll be right back. We'll be right back to It's Supernatural [commercial] We now return to It s Supernatural. SID: Sid Roth here with Zona Hayes-Morrow. Zona, you've been attacked with life-threatening things and you have won each time. In '94, you had what the doctors diagnosed as kidney failure. Tell me about that. ZONA: They diagnosed me to be put on dialysis and I got down to 64 pounds, and I was getting tired. That's how people die, is when they get tired. SID: I've seen people get so tired that they give up. ZONA: That's exactly right. SID: That's when the devil hits you. ZONA: But any disease, anything, any kind of a disease or high blood pressure, or diabetes is a name that a doctor put on the devil, period. SID: I like that. I like that. ZONA: And it's not normal, you know. And so I asked the Lord, I said, "What do I do, Lord?" I mean, I was talking to Him. I never said it out loud. I never, I talked very little when I was on dialysis. Because you start talking symptoms, and symptoms are, they're not real and they're symptoms. And so I asked the Lord what to do, and He said, "I want you to go on the dialysis center and there's 50 dialysis recliners in there. I want you to take a blanket and I want you to put the blanket over your head because you cannot watch and see what that machine is doing. It's taking all of your blood out of your body and cleansing it, and putting it back in your body. Don't watch that or you'll get more tired and that's when you'll die." I said, okay.

6 6 SID: So did you really pull the blanket over your head? ZONA: I sure did. SID: What did other people think? They thought, I just went in automatically and I put the blanket on me, and stuck my arm out. I had a fistula and they put needles in my arm, and they all of course, they were hollering at me, "Zona, Zona, Zona," and they said, "put the blanket down." And I thought, no, I'm not doing it. I'm not going to look at the machine. So for three months I never looked at the machine again. SID: You know, Zona, you told me something else that impressed me. You see, as a young girl she would go around with her father, but really wouldn't listen to a word he was teaching. She had it memorized, but she really didn't have it in her heart, wasn't really comprehending, you know, she was tuning him out. Then God tells you to read his books. ZONA: When I read my father's book, see, this was two years before I was attacked again. He said, "I want you to read my book through seven times. Then I want you to read it through once a month until I tell you to quit because you're going to need it." I had to keep, I had to start building myself up for, when they diagnosed me with dialysis the second time, they gave me 24 hours to live if I did not go on dialysis the second time. And when I did that, the Lord, I mean, He just miraculously, when I didn't react, I did not react when they said, you're going to have to go back on dialysis. All I said was, to myself, not again. And so I got, I just started praying and just kept real quiet except when speaking to the Lord. And it's just, you know, I saw myself healed. I'd stand in the bathroom and I'd close the door, and I'd take a glass of water. I poured it in the commode. I'd tear toilet tissue off. I'd flush the commode and I'd say, "Thank you Lord for a miracle in my kidneys." I'd flush the commode. I'd go to the sink, put the cup down, wash my hands, straighten my clothes. I did that about five or six times a day because faith comes by hearing and hearing the Word of God. SID: So you were seeing yourself as a healed person using the toilet normal, flushing the commode. You picture what she's doing? I mean, that is such a stubborn faith. If you hadn't exercised that stubborn faith, do you think you'd be here right now? ZONA: I would not. I would not. If I didn't remember how my dad stood in the gap for me, how he stood in the gap for the growths, I was a six-month baby, a six and a half, seven-month baby, and I weighed four pounds, 10 ounces when I was born. Got a blood disease, got ran over by the car and the car drug me under and dropped me off. Different things that happened and the devil, the first time that Spirit of Death came to me he said, "I am going to kill you because you're the closest thing I can get to Norvel Hayes to make him stop." That's exactly. SID: But he missed. He made a mistake. ZONA: That's right. SID: He picked on this little lady that says, devil, that's enough. I believe that you can pray right now and people are going to be healed all over the audience. Would you do that?

7 7 ZONA: Yes I will. Father, in Jesus' name I pray for all these people, Lord, the viewers, the people in the audience here, and I thank you Lord for your healing power, your authoritative power, death and life, for the power of love, not when your afraid. In the power of love, I thank you Lord that your healing power flows from the top of their head to the souls of their feet, driving out everything that's not victory in their minds, in their bodies, in their families, in their finances, every single thing. Satan, you're a liar. You take your hands. Diabetes, you go in Jesus' name. High blood pressure, you go in Jesus' name. Kidney stones, go in Jesus' name. Liver problems, go. I speak to every person's body right now that's viewing this program, and I thank you Lord. All they have to do is start thanking you, Jesus, for your miracle working power, for your healing power flowing through my body, in your delivering power in Jesus' name. Amen. SID: Zona, tell me something good that has happened to you, something good, very quickly, because this was a staggering dream you had of people in Hell. Very quickly, tell me about that. ZONA: Well I've seen a lot of flaky people. I've seen, you can't compromise. Your ministry is, your success in ministry in serving God is in your character and integrity, not how good you preach, in your character and integrity first. And I had a dream of Hell, and I saw, I was on a cliff. I saw a cliff and I saw people falling into Hell with bibles. That's what I saw. SID: So the outside isn't what counts. It's the inside. Do you have the Word of God, the Messiah of Israel inside of you? Well if you have sin inside of you, he can't be inside of you. This is the good news. If you repent of your sins, turn from those sins and turn to God, He'll give you the power to overcome. He'll cause your sins to be wiped away and then you ask Him to live inside of you and be Lord of your life, and then you read the Bible and you serve Him. It's so simple. You need help to be confused, but where we're living right now in the times we're living right now, if you do not turn to God, you're meshuggah. That's a Hebrew word and it means "crazy". Stop being meshuggah. Make Jesus your Lord. Let me tell you something. There is no greater peace, purpose, meaning than making Jesus Lord in your life. [commercial] SID: Next week on It's Supernatural. Our show has one of the true generals of faith, Dr. Norvel Hayes, 86 years young. And the doctors, the doctors say that when they examine him they can't imagine how someone can be that healthy. And not only that, at one point, Norvel had 14 business corporations of which many were million-dollar corporations. So how did a man have such favor at 86 to have health like that? How did a man have such favor to have all these corporations? He found out in Heaven and he's going to teach you.