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1 Do angels exist? Are human miracles real? Is there life after death? Can people get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth had spent twenty-five years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of "It's Supernatural." Sid: Hello, Sid Roth here with Gary and Kathy Oates, welcome to my world where it is naturally supernatural. I love the presence of God and the presence of God is going to be so that I believe that many of you are going to reach out and touch this presence. Now my guests, just like you, they had read the Bible, they had heard about miracles but they weren't seeing much so they thought maybe if I go to a foreign country I'll see miracles. Gary, did you really think you would see miracles when you went to Brazil? Gary: I was hoping to, I didn't know because people had told me about the miracles and the signs and wonders that were happening there, and my desire was to not just read about other peoples experiences but I wanted to go and see it firsthand. Sid: Okay, and Kathy I assume that's what you wanted too, so you are there in Brazil, you were sitting, were you in the front row? Gary: No, although, actually I was about, yes, I was come to think of it. Sid: All right you were in the front row and all of a sudden god tells you to do something that doesn't make too much sense. Gary: No, I know, I had never experienced the presence of God like I was experiencing it at that moment, it was so powerful upon me, and God spoke to me and he said take your shoes off you are standing on holy ground. And my first reaction was you know, I don't want to do that, I had on nice clean socks, it was a dirty, dusty concrete floor, and I was really resisting what God was wanting me to do, and just maybe a minute later God spoke again, it was like this was a little more serious, it was like "take your shoes off," and I thought utt oh. Sid: Just out of curiosity, did you think that first time was God or did you think that was pizza? Gary: Well, I thought it was God, I thought it was God, but so often God speaks to us and we just let it pass, we don't really take to heart what God is saying, we don't really respond in obedience. Sid: Okay so he has to tell you two times then what do you do. Gary: Yeah, the second time well I thought hey this is God I think I had better do this, and so I took my shoes off and I was standing there just in my socks. Sid: Now Kathy, were you watching this little taking off the shoes business? Kathy: Actually I noticed, I was standing right beside him

2 so I noticed that that was what he was doing, but there was such a heavy sense of the presence of the Lord in the building it was, we were all caught up in worship. Sid: Okay, your shoes are off, now what? Gary: I was standing there just worshipping God and tears were starting to come down my cheeks because it was so strong upon me because of that obedience in taking my shoes off because I believe if I hadn't have done it what followed would have never happened. I opened my eyes and on the platform I saw there were dancers up there, I saw two dancers with three angels dancing around them, two more dancers, three angels dancing around them, over to the side there were a bunch of individual dancers, they all had a very large angel arched over them moving all around with them. Sid: Had you seen angels like this before. Gary: No, no, this was a shock. Sid: This just messes your whole paradigm up. Gary: totally, totally, I mean I was shocked at what I was seeing and I just threw my head back like that and I looked and above the platform the whole area was full of worshipping angels, they were playing instruments, they were singing, they were dancing, it looked like they were having a party. Sid: Now were they, did they look like real people or were they transparent? Gary: Well they were transparent, it was like I could see right through them, they had flowing robes as they were dancing, it was the most beautiful sight, I didn't know what to do with it, I thought man, because I had been asking God for an experience like this, and when I happened I didn't know how to handle it, I thought aw, you know am I going crazy or what is this. It was like it didn't, and so I just continued worshipping God, it was like whoa, I mean this is off the charts, I kept crying out, "God, I don't understand all of this but I just want more of you, God I want more of your presence in my life." And as I was saying that I felt myself getting bigger and taller, fifteen feet tall, it was like I turned into this giant and I was looking down over the people and they were all worshipping God, and I thought whoa, you know this is really cool. All of a sudden I started going up; I went all the way up into the top of the tent. Sid: Now this is all new for you, was this kind of scary? Gary: It was really scary, when I got, when I got to the top of the tent, the church meets in a tent that seats three thousand people, so it's a big tent. I was in the top of the then looking down over everybody and I was really afraid, I started resisting, it was like I put the brakes on, and as I did that I started coming back down, and I realized aw man, I made a big mistake, I said, "God forgive me forgive me, up is better, up is better." Sid: For sure. Gary: And right then I switched directions and I started right back up, it was like Superman, I went right through

3 the top of the tent way up into the sky, I had a birds eye view of the whole city, I could see the top of the tent, it was glowing, I mean the presence of God was so brightly shining from the top of the tent and a hole opened up, it was like God gave me zoom vision, I could see right down through the hole, right down into the tent, people worshipping God. Now this time I really got afraid, because I'm the kind of guy that likes to have everything in a box, I like to have everything in control, I was way out of control, I was way out of my box, and I started resisting again. I had a fear of the unknown, I had a fear of the supernatural, though that is what I wanted, I was still afraid of it as it was happening. Sid: Okay so you are up in the air, are you, did you see your wife? Gary: No I didn't, I didn't see my wife, as I was resisting again what God was doing because of fear, I started to come back down, and I thought, aw man, I realized that God will take us as far as we are willing to go. You know I am the one, I think I am the one that put the limits on how far I went with him, I honestly believe that he would have taken me on to the Throne Room had I not been resistant like that. Sid: So you came back. Gary: I came all the way back down inside the tent, and I raised my arms, it was like my arms were a mile long, it was like they went way up in the sky, and I was looking up and I was saying, "God forgive me, God forgive me, I just want more of you, I want more of you." And as I was saying that as I was looking up, I saw Jesus coming down and he had a white robe on and his hands were extended out like this and he came all the way down and he took me by the hands and he held me real tight as if to say, "I'm not going to let you go," and I was, I was completely overwhelmed and overcome by his presence. All of a sudden my left hand started to burn. Sid: I'll tell you what, hold that thought because the next day so many people got healed and I say to you, many are going to be healed that are watching right now. We'll be right back. We'll be right back to, "It's Supernatural." What if you could access the supernatural realm any time or anywhere? Imagine being able to interact with God or angels on a regular basis, interested? Gary Oates was caught up into the spirit realm and began seeing the invisible world, now Gary spends his life teaching others how to interact with the supernatural. Call now to get Gary Oates book, "Open My Eyes Lord." This book is a practical guide to angelic visitations and heavenly experiences. Through this book you will discover:

4 This book also contains a special prayer of impartation. Thousands of people who have prayed and reported being able to see in the spirit realm as a result. This book is the most practical book I have ever read; it shows you step by step how to achieve intimacy with God. This special offer is available for a limited time only. Don't miss out on your opportunity to experience the supernatural like never before. Call now and get Gary Oates book titled, "Open My Eyes Lord." We now return to, "It's Supernatural." Sid: Hello, Sid Roth here with Gary and Kathy Oates, and Gary and Kathy just want to see what the Bible says, they go to Brazil, he takes his shoes off in a meeting because the Spirit of God told him to do it, it's dirty, he is resisting, had he not done that then the next thing wouldn't have happened, he literally finds himself out of his body, he sees angels, he see Jesus, he comes back into his body and what happened next? Gary: Well Sid: Oh you told me your hand started burning. Gary: Yes, my hands were burning, it was like my left hand was on fire and I didn't feel like I could take it any longer and it was right then that Jesus let go of my hands and my spirit came back into my body. Now because my spirit had been in the presence of the Lord like that when my spirit came back into my body my body was like it exploded. Sid: Now Kathy, what did he say to you after that? Kathy: He couldn't talk. Sid: What do you mean he couldn't talk; he could do a good job of speaking. Gary: Listen, I was completely wasted, I couldn't I was laying on the floor, it was like I was nailed to the floor, I couldn't, I could hardly move, I was crying and I was saying, "God, I don't understand all this stuff, I just want more of you." I felt so little and so insignificant in the presence of Almighty God that it was the most incredible, awesome experience I had ever, I had ever had. Sid: Okay, next day, fast forward, what happened? Gary: Next day I got to the meeting early, the power of God hit me, I was on the front row, I hat the floor and again, I could not move and I was thinking what is going on, because I had difficulty speaking that whole day, I mean I couldn't even get words out of my mouth, the presence of God was on me continuously during that time, I was weeping. Well I was on the floor and I saw the worship team as they began to worship and all of a sudden everything changed and God took me to a place, I saw a gold path, gold steps, a gold platform. Sid: Now you have to understand he ahs never had experiences like this before, this is more like the Bible

5 than what goes on with most religious Christians, so who do you want to choose, do you want to choose what a phenomena that occurs that is similar to the Bible or would you like to take a look at religion? Me, I like the Bible, go ahead. Gary: Well I saw the gold platform, gold steps, on top of this top platform I saw a very large throne, I didn't see anybody sitting on the throne, but to the right of the throne I saw Jesus standing there, he was wearing different clothes this time, and he had a scepter in his hand, and from his waist up the brilliance of light coming from him was overwhelming, I could barely look at it, and honestly Sid, I thought I was going to die. In fact, I thought you know, maybe I had died and gone to heaven because it was that real. Right then I came back into my body and I was writhing in agony on the floor, I had a look of terror on my face, I was screaming but no sound was coming out of my mouth. And Kathy saw me in that condition. Kathy: Right. Gary: And she was hollering you know, do something, do something, to the other guys around me. Kathy: Right, it scared me. Gary: And they said turn. Sid: Did you think he was having a heart attack? Kathy: I didn't know what was happening, you have to understand you know, coming into a foreign country and then all of a sudden, Gary, I had never, never known him to be afraid about anything, not one thing in his life, he has always been positive, courageous, and to see the terror on his face, it was petrifying to me. Sid: Okay, what happened next? Gary: Well I was, they didn't realize what was happening to me, the reason I had the look of terror on my face and was screaming in agony was because I was so acutely aware of my sinfulness in the presence of a holy God that it just brought terror to me and I was crying out, "God for give me, God forgive me." And I felt just the cleansing of God coming over my life, it was just like, it was just like being thrown under a waterfall and totally cleansed, not just outwardly but inwardly, and on the inside again I was Sid: We don't realize who far removed we are from where God created us to be, we don't realize, I mean this is a word you don't hear often, sinful, we don't realize how sinful we are unless God puts a spotlight on us. Gary: That's exactly right. Well my heart of repentance was met with total forgiveness from the Father, and I was on the floor this time for two hours, I couldn't get up, I couldn't move. I was weeping, when I tried to get up I couldn't walk out, a couple of the people had to help me, I ended up in the very back of the church on the pack row sitting there and Kathy was asking me you know, what happened, what happened, and I couldn't even tell her because I wanted to process all of this and I said, "I'll tell you later, I'm okay." But I was shaking and vibrating so much in the chair

6 I could hardly sit in the chair. Sid: So they bring you up on the platform and what type of miracles were released when you were there? Gary: Well I mean it was amazing, they had to carry me up on the platform in a chair; I couldn't walk up there myself. Kathy: He couldn't talk. Gary: I couldn't talk, and I was with Randy Clark, and Randy, he came over to ask me what had been happening. I couldn't speak, he had Kathy come up, Kathy told what I had told her and the place came unglued. It was like a tornado just swept through the place, people were falling, they were crying out, people were being sovereignly healed, there was such a strong manifest presence of God in the place. Sid: Were many people healed? Gary: All over the place, right after that, once I was finally able to talk, this was a little later on, people came up for prayer, I was able to stand up because only by the grace of God, and I began to pray for people, there was a long line, every person I prayed for was instantly healed, it was like there was a whole different dynamic. Sid: Listen Gary and Kathy, there is a glory, that same glory is in this studio right now, did you hear what he just said, every single person he prayed for was healed, don't go away we'll be right back after these words. We'll be right back to, "It's Supernatural." Sid Roth has found the key to worldwide revival. This is God's time to reach the Jewish people with his love, Messiah Jesus has torn down the wall dividing Jew and Gentile, the two together form One New Man to reach the world. God's method to reach the Jewish people is through signs and wonders, this is why our website, SidRoth.org is jam packed with tools to equip you to move in signs and wonders, understand Israel and the Jewish roots of the church. Log on to SidRoth.org today. We now return to, "It's Supernatural." Sid: Hello, Sid Roth here with Gary and Kathy Oates, and Kathy, Gary had this marvelous experience, but you came in along by being his wife, and now I understand God has so opened your eyes when you pray for people you literally see an angel doing something and then you do what you see that angel doing, explain that. Kathy: That's right, I do. Well it started right after the situation with Gary happened, it was on that same trip, we were in a large auditorium and all of a sudden I started seeing angels behind people, and it was a night when thee was an anointing but not a real strong anointing in the place, and so as I began to pray for those very people that I saw the angels behind they got healed, one right after another and I did

7 what I saw the angel do, like if the angel would blow on their head, I would blow. Sid: Isn't that what Jesus said, I only do what I see my father doing. Kathy: That's right. Sid: That's a great position to be in. Now Gary I have your book, "Open My eyes Lord," which I've read, tell me why in your heart of hearts, why you wrote this. Gary: Well Sid, I wrote that because I wanted everybody to know that the supernatural realm is available to everyone, you know, what I experienced in the heavens, the angelic visitations, everyone, everyone, every person can receive the same thing, it is available for everyone of us, and so I wanted to lay it out there in a very practical way that everybody could understand. Sid: All right, tell me one person that has read this book and what has happened to them. That pastor you were talking about. Gary: Well he came to one of our meetings and when I was talking about this, and he called me six weeks later, he said, "I was in your meeting, I left disappointed because nothing happened." And he said, "I'm the type of pastor," he said, "I've got a big library; you know I like to study," real theologian type of guy. And he said but I did what you said, I began to spend time alone seeking the face of God and experiencing his manifest presence every day and he said, "Sunday I got up during worship time, the presence of God came all over me," he said, "I was trembling, God spoke to me," and he said, "Do you want to see something?" "I said yes," he said, "God opened my eyes and I saw a parade of angels coming at me." He said, "Every type f angel, worshipping angels, healing angels, ministering spirits, warrior angels." And he said, "I ended up on the floor; I didn't even get to preach that day," he said, "My life had been radically changed as a result of that prayer of impartation." Sid: Now you have the prayer and you have what to do to get intimacy with God, but tell me step by step because Kathy you do just like Gary, what do you do to receive the presence of God, to soak in his glory. Tell me what you do daily. Kathy: both of us I think we spend time alone with the Lord every day, but it is just a quiet time, there is not music going, it is just a sense of total peace where we begin to entertain the presence of the Lord and during that time we are soaking in the presence and as we consume his presence so to speak, then the Lord begins to minister more and more supernaturally, it's just, it's a whole new world. Sid: but don't you find it boring just sitting still? Kathy: Well no, because when you are in that state, God begins to speak to you, you hear his voice, you understand his presence, sometimes I just feel like I am in the Throne Room with the Father and the Lord Jesus

8 and we are having a strategy meeting, and he begins to show me things that he wants done or people that he wants prayed for, it is like there is this intimacy, we're friends, just like I talk to you I talk to him. Gary: You know Sid, one thing when I first started doing this it was really difficult, I could not keep my mind on anything, my mind was going a million directions and it took me forever, but I persevered, I stayed in there, I pressed in for more of the presence of God, I just kept crying out, "God I just want more of you, more of your presence." I used to pray and ask God for, God do this, God do that, give me this, give me that, and I said wait a minute, I just want more of him, nothing else matters, I just want more of him, and as I cried out God, I just want more of you, more of you, more of you, and I pressed in for that, I began to sense the manifest presence of God, not just like on you know, in a church service on Sunday or whatever, but every day at home I started experiencing that. And that's what, that was the difference, and now it doesn't take any time at all, it is like boom, because of practicing his presence. Sid: Tell me very briefly about that person with the tumor where you saw fire coming into their head. Gary: Oh yeah, this is really interesting, we were praying for this man and he was in his mid-seventies, he had a brain tumor, he had had surgery, the doctors said there is nothing more we can do for you, they sent him home to die, he came to this church with his wife and they asked us to go in the back and pray with his man, and we were praying for him I saw a large angel to my right bring his wings out and put them around the man, and just, it was a real tender moment, and as I was looking at it, I couldn't believe what I saw, on the other side of that angel was a smaller angel, this angel was blowing fire into the mans head, it looked like a blow torch of fire and I stopped and I said wait a minute, I said are you feeling anything is happening right now, and he said oh yes, my head, my head, it is so hot, my head is like it is on fire, it's burning up, and I was rejoicing. He said I'm healed, I'm healed, and I said wow, I want you to go back to the doctor and have the doctor confirm this healing. He said I don't have to, I don't have to, I'm healed, I know I am healed. I said well I believe you are healed too. Sid: Listen when you know it you know it. But let me tell you something, just ordinary people, once their eyes are opened, they are seeing the invisible world. I want you to take a look at this young girl that has just seen an angel for the first time. Sid: Okay, are you ready for the impartation prayer that Gary and Kathy are going to pray for you right now, get ready, get ready, Gary pray. Gary: You can experience this same thing, I believe the presence of God is right there with you right now,

9 in fact you can sense there is something different happening right there in your room and I want you to know that's the presence of God, I am going to pray a quick prayer for you just as Elisha prayed for his servant, he prayed a very simple prayer, "Oh Lord I pray, open his eyes that he might see," And instantly God opened his eyes, he saw the armies of the Lord, the angels of the Lord, the chariots of fire surrounding the enemy. I am going to pray that same prayer for you that God will open your eyes; that you will come into a relationship with the Father like you have never known before, that you will begin to experience the supernatural realm of the spirit. So just join me in this prayer right now. Father, I thank you for every person that is listening, every person, and right now I ask you to release your angels of impartation upon them. Oh Lord I pray open their eyes that they might see, that they might see beyond the natural physical world into the supernatural realm of the spirit. Father impact them powerfully with your presence, remove the scales from the eyes of their spirit. Lord take them into a new place with you, Father bring revelation of who you really are and what you want to do in their lives. And Father I pray that you just release your healing presence right now, now you, you feel that? Get up, do something, begin to do something you couldn't do before, something that caused pain, many of you are being healed right now as you are sitting there, feeling whoa, you may be feeling heat, electricity, you may begin to shake or weeping, that's the presence of God. Sid: I tell you Gary, I feel the presence of God all over me, my face literally is on fire, and I am healing the people that have pains in your back if you will bend over right now, scoliosis, anything right now. In Yeshua's Name, in Yeshua's Name, in Yeshua's Name, be healed, be whole, get a friendship with God, God wants to be your friend. What if you could access the supernatural realm any time or anywhere? Imagine being able to interact with God or angels on a regular basis, interested? Gary Oates was caught up into the spirit realm and began seeing the invisible world, now Gary spends his life teaching others how to interact with the supernatural. Call now to get Gary Oates book, "Open My Eyes Lord." This book is a practical guide to angelic visitations and heavenly experiences. Through this book you will discover: This book also contains a special prayer of impartation. Thousands of people who have prayed and reported being able to see in the spirit realm as a result. This book is the most practical book I have ever read;

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