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1 Peter Quotes Joel the Prophet By Your servant, Dan Baxley The Apostle Peter stood up on the Day of Pentecost and quoted from the Hebrew Scriptures a passage from Joel (Joel 2). Many use this prophecy to prove visions and dreams are for today and so we should listen to those who come to us saying they have visited Heaven and Hell and other such nonsense. For one, if you look at the prophecy with your eyes wide open you will see that this prophecy from Joel, that Peter is quoting, is for ALL PEOPLE, and His SERVANTS, not just a few nuts on the Internet. I will demonstrate Peter s error and bring together the contextual meaning of what Joel had to report and where this all fits into the New Covenant revelations. So, let s begin by quoting Peter, quoting Joel. (Act 2:16-17) No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 'In the last days, God (YHWH) says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Has this really happened? No, His Spirit has not been poured out on ALL people. We will look at the context within which Joel is speaking later, but for now see how Peter used this Prophecy and remember, Peter and the other Apostles thought they were living in those last days and the imminent establishment of the Kingdom. Next verse quoted: (Act 2:18) Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. Look at this closely, His Servants are mention, separate from ALL PEOPLE. First His Spirit is to be poured out on the Whole World, on all people and then HIS SERVANTS are included. Do we see this today? Are people the whole world experiencing His Spirit today? Doesn t seem like it. If you go to Joel, chapter, 2 and read this within the context of what is being revealed you will see this out pouring is to happen after the Kingdom is established. Peter is using it to prove a point but he is

2 wrong in its final and total application. Which he actually acknowledges by reciting the following --- (Act 2:19-20) I will show wonders in the heaven above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. Did this happen? No, it did not and has not. Notice Peter quotes Joel who is telling us that before this can actually happen in complete fulfillment, the sun will be darkened and the moon will appear like blood BEFORE that Glorious Day of the Lord. If you go to Revelation 6:12-17 you will read of this future fulfillment and what is to come in greater detail. Peter goes on to say, in agreement with Joel the Prophet that at that time everyone who calls on the Name of the Lord will be saved. Do we see that today? Hardly. A few, yes but the vast majority do not even know what our Savior s Birth Name is. His Name has been substituted for titles and among the Christians has been replaced by a completely different name from the Name He was Named -- they use a substitute or they replace His Name with another, just as our Lord prophesied John 5:43. Considering Peter s next quote maybe we should take this business of replacing our Lord s Name with another, seriously? (Act 2:21) And everyone who calls on the Name of the Lord will be saved.' NOW, Let s read what Joel had to say In Context: (Joe 2:26) You will have plenty to eat, until you are full, and you will praise the Name of the LORD (YHWH) your God, who has worked wonders for you; never again will my people be shamed. Has this happened? Again, NO, it has not. His People, Israel, are not praising His Name. Israel is a sectarian state and the religious population is only around 10%, as reported by the Jerusalem Post. It was not until 1948 that the Jews were able to reestablish themselves back in the land as a nation. This alone would make Peter s use of Joel s prophecy in error. What? Is Israel free from shame or from being shamed? Not at all, we read daily from the critics and enemies of Israel and are reminded daily that they are not following the Torah and they do not accept YaHshua as Savior. No, they are still living in shame. They are shamed by their treatment of their own Messiah, whom they have rejected. They live in shame because they no longer have the Temple to worship. And they live in the shame of their sin because they have rejected their Messiah and lost their Sacrificial system by which they found the cleansing from sin

3 they live in Shame and will live in shame until the return of our Savior to awaken them and give to them a new heart and then they will see the one whom they pierced and will repent Zech 14. The next verse also tells us the timing of this event is still in the future. (Joe 2:27) Then you will know that I am in Israel, that I am the LORD (YaHWeH) your God, and that there is no other; never again will my people be shamed. A repeat with emphasis, never again will my people be shamed. This has not happened yet -- how many declare that YaHWeH is in Israel today? When YaHshua returns then this will become a true prophecy. Now read what is to follow, after Israel is living without shame notice, Afterward (Joe 2:28-29) And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days. After Israel is living under the personal guidance and ruler-ship of our Lord, it is then His Spirit is poured out on all people, including His servants. But, before this, Joel and Peter both, remind us of something else, something nearly everyone skips over. (Joe 2:30) I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and billows of smoke. The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD (YaHWeH). Have we seen any of this yet? No, and this is nearly 2,000 years later from when Peter called on these verse. Again read Revelation 6:12-17, the Sixth Seal and notice this time is called the Wrath of the Lamb, and see how it all dove tails with Joel s prophecy, and with what our Lord, YaHshua, reported as well Matthew 24:29. The next thing to happen, after this time of great distress, will be salvation for all those who freely call on the Name of the LORD? No, wait, this term, LORD, is a substituted title for His actual Name. The actual writing should be YaHWeH, not LORD. So, everyone that calls on YaHWeH will be saved. This also identifies our Lord YaHshua as one and the same, YaHWeH. When He stands on the Mount of Olives, this will all come true Zech 14. Also, Paul makes this plain and it is worth quoting Paul before we move on in Joel (Rom 10:1113) For the scripture says, Whosoever believes on Him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved.

4 Paul is obviously talking about YaHshua our Lord and Savior but He is quoting from the Old covenant, as Peter was quoting from Joel in the Old Covenant as well. This means that the term, LORD is to be applied to our Messiah and Savior, YaHshua. YaHshua and YaHWeH are one and the same. Now back to Joel and what Joel really means and the actual timing of the coming fulfillment. (Joe 2:32) And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD (YaHWeH) will be saved; for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as the LORD (YaHWeH) has said, among the survivors whom the LORD (YaHWeH) calls. You can see from this that Peter did not quote all of Joel and Peter applied Joel s prophecy to his day and in truth is was not for His day, at least not the compete fulfillment. Notice, this is after a time of calamity and a time Israel will be changing and turning toward their God and Savior once again -- among the SURVIVORS whom YaHWeH/YaHshua calls. When we get the context right then we see the truth about what is being said. This prophecy is cherry picked by the Christian spiritualist and mystics to support their sometimes outrageous claims that usually involve spirit possession and other nonsense. They stay away from the context and claim only these verses that suit them, which is really only one verse out of these many verse they claim verse 28 of Joel, ignoring the first part where it say, Afterward and plow ahead misusing this verse to condone their false dreams and visions. Without a doubt the context is meant for the last days and we have yet to see those days. Let s take a look at what is really to come, before this major pouring our of His Spirit. And remember, Joel called this the Great and terrible Day of YaHWeH. (Rev 6:12-14) I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as late figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. The sky receded like a scroll, rolling up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.

5 The same descriptions we read in Joel but more detail is added. Remember, this revelation is coming from our Heavenly Father, to YaHshua, and then to John, and all of this before the Great pouring out of His Spirit on all mankind. (Rev 6:15) Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. Remember the previous description described as a Great and terrible day? People will flee into the hills and hide from the Face of God. I am thinking they do not really recognize what they are witnessing to be the Return of our Lord. Perhaps the world sees this time as the literal end of the earth, just as scientist has said, the earth is eventually going to its doom, either by the sun burning out or by a huge comet strike. The return of our Lord may appear, on earth, as the coming of a great meteor or comet that is approaching earth, and being so fearful mankind hides from the inevitable looking for a quick death, as we see in the next verse. (Rev 6:16-17) They called to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of His wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? The true context and revelation we find in Joel chapter 2, has to do with the end days and after. By applying this revelation correctly we see this business concerning the out pouring of His Spirit has not come yet. In Peter s day they experienced a partial fulfilling, but the actual application of Joel s prophecy is for the Last days, not for Peter s time. This is, however, a sketchy principle in the application of the Prophetic word. Peter s use of this prophecy should be a warning to others that pick and chose verses from the Hebrew writings to support their own prophetic views. Was Peter wrong? Well, when we read the full context of Joel chapter 2 we would have to say yes, but from his point of view at that time it would appear he is correct. But notice, even Peter includes the prophecy concerning the changes to take place in the Heavens and on the earth, and while Peter was giving this warning he was also using this prophecy to explain what was happening with the disciples speaking in other tongues, and everyone from other states and countries hearing them in their own languages. Still, while this may have satisfied the crowd and even caused man to come to the faith the warning of the coming Wrath is most often over looked. Perhaps it was this warning about the coming change, the heavenly signs and the other events threatening a change of powers that frightened many into the faith and not the actual act of the Disciples speaking in other languages. As we know, none of this

6 happened and is yet in the future, and is a repeated prophecy delivered to John many decades later. Joel s prophecy is not finished and is still in the future. In the Book of Revelation, John does not quote Joel but YaHshua, the individual opening the Seals. And where did Joel get his information? From YaHWeH, the one speaking to him and telling Him what to write, reading Joel you see this is YaHWeH that is speaking and Joel is recording, just as the Apostle John is listening, and being shown what to record. In the end, Peter got it wrong, but was able to pass on the warning of the coming Wrath of our Lord and what would follow after this time a pouring out of the Holy Spirit over all of the world, all people, as well as His servants. This is to become a full fulfillment AFTER our Savior YaHshua has returned. Parallel these revelations and stay within the context and you will see the truth concerning this Prophetic warning, and while Peter used it to make a point even he would have to admit that the heavenly signs, he also mentioned had not occurred and I think he would now agree his first prophetic announcement was not totally correct but only a small, very small, sign of what is to really happen in the future. Revelation 6:12-17 Heavenly signs Great worldwide quake -- Wrath of the Lamb Acts 2:17-21 And all that call on His Name will be saved when? After the Heavenly signs. Joel 2:26-32 Last days AFTERWARD Holy Spirit poured out on ALL people. Matthew 24:27-31 This is from our Lord YaHshua and parallels Joel and John and this is the true event Peter mentions. This is still to come. Now, read Revelation 6:12-17 again and ask yourself, Has this happened yet? and your answer will be, NO. This also points to another error found among the teachings of the Evangelical Christians, the false teaching of Imminent Return. Our Lord will not return until these events, these heavenly signs and the Great Quake become a reality so He cannot and will not return until sometime after these events. I know this too simple, right? These prophecies, however, put things into perspective, and make it clear that there is no such thing as Imminent Return. Well, at least not until His Wrath come first and this will be something, really something big. Imagine the heavenly signs and what it will look like from earth? Then imagine a worldwide earthquake, a worldwide shaking and the tsunamis that will be produced smashing into the coastlines of all nations. Quite possibly two thirds of the people of the world will perish. There will be a complete shake up and turnover of political

7 powers. Now ask yourself, Who is it that has kept the evil empires of this world in check? The United States of America, of course, but after this coming Wrath of the Lamb the USA will crippled and will no longer be able to hold the evil back that has been and is fermenting in the Middle East. During the recovery period after these great and terrible times the insane satanic armies will seek a unity among all Arab nations to destroy Israel and raise up an Islamic, world ruling nation. A shift in power is coming but only after the Great Quake, a World Shaking event to follow the frightening Heavenly Signs. I know, everyone in the prophetic world seems to be waiting for the 10 nation union, some say from Europe, a revived Roman Empire. Then there are others who say it will be a resurrected Ottoman Empire based on Islam, and then still others say it will be a 10 nation union of the Arab nations, and still others that it will be a union of 5 nations from the West and 5 nations from the East. It seems this all remains to be seen as each of these views has some support and some good arguments, but all of these views are pointing to the prophecy in Daniel concerning a dream the King of Babylon had and what it meant -- (Dan 2:43) And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay. (Dan 2:44) In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. (Dan 2:45) This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands--a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces. "The great God has shown the king what will take place in the future. The dream is true and the interpretation is trustworthy." (Dan 2:46) Then King Nebuchadnezzar fell prostrate before Daniel and paid him honor and ordered that an offering and incense be presented to him. (Dan 2:47) The king said to Daniel, "Surely your God is the God of gods and the Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, for you were able to reveal this mystery." NIV This is a bit picture however, and before this Rock smashes these Ten Kings into nothing other events, like those YaHshua spoke of in Matthew 24 and again in Revelation 6:12-17 and we need to keep in mind, this is only the 6 th Seal, before the destruction of the Ten Toes, or Ten Kings remember, Kings represent Kingdoms or a

8 collection of nations or states joined as a kingdom Joel speaks of a time just before this too. Peter applied the prophecy in Joel to his time. This seems to be something men do in every generation; it does not make the prophecy wrong only the men who apply it at the wrong time. Our God and Savior is true to His word and whether men apply His words correctly or not has nothing to do with His bringing His words and the Words of our Heavenly Father to fruit. We can speculate, have great opinions, and elaborate eloquently but in the END it will be His Words that prevail and every man made to look like a liar. Let His Words stand, even if it makes a favorite Apostle look like he misspoke. (Rom 3:3-4) What if some did not have faith? Will their lack of faith nullify God's faithfulness? Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge." NIV Why are we instructed to take this approach, to take on this view? Paul clearly tells us, So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you JUDGE. By considering my words and the words of all men as lies, FIRST, we can then seem more clearly the TRUTH in His Words and then speak accordingly. This removes our human nature to be right, even when we know we are wrong. Many people stand up to defend something without any true backing from God s Word to defend emotional feelings about things. Let s put the childish things behind us and move on to more meaty issues and stay in His Word not ours. Peace

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