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1 1 of 7 10/18/ :30 AM Welcome to Skadi Forum, the largest Germanic online community forum where you can join over 40,000 members from around the world discussing all things of concern to you. To gain full access to Skadi Forum you must register for a free account. As a registered member you will be able to: Participate in over 300 topic forums and browse from over 700,000 posts. Communicate privately with other members from around the world. Post your own images and documents or access from over 70,000 files. Gain access to special insider forums not available to guests. All this and much more is available to you absolutely free when you register for an account, so sign up today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact support. If you have questions about the permissible content, please read the Skadi Forum disclaimer and the Skadi Forum rules. Skadi Forum > > Christianity The Greatest Story Ever Copied User Name Password Remember Me? Register Gallery Donate FAQ Rules Members List Today's Posts Search Christianity Forum dedicated to general Christianity (regardless of denominational or individual beliefs), Christian issues & topics, the history and influence of Christianity on the Germanic nations and Germanic world. The Greatest Story Ever Copied Page 2 of 2 < 1 2 Thread Tools Friday, March 14th, 2008 Translate: Ger->Eng Eng->Ger #11 Beornulf Originally Posted by Soten Actually, if anything this makes me respect Christianity more. I wouldn't say it is copied. That seems to imply that it was ripped off of other religions. It's more like cultural transference. If the story of Christ is a copy then so is Mithras a copy of Horus, etc. Almost all religious teachings would be a copy. No, the reason they are common is because they are all derived from the IE religious strain. Dyēus was the Indo-European name for the original chief god, later Zeus in Greek, Jupiter in Roman, Tyr in Germanic Religion and Dyaus Pita in Sanskrit. Last Seen: Tuesday, June 22nd, 2010 Join Date: Nov 2005 Ethnicity: Scottish/English Ancestry: Scotland and England Subrace: Nordid/Bruenn Country: New Zealand Location: Wellington The religions were all derived from a common root, which is why the similarities among the religions are so strong, the longer they existed in separate regions among differing cultures the more the gods were adapted to represent that certain culture with the principles generally remaining unchanged. Like how Christians have Catholicism, Protestantism, Orthodox etc. What Christianity did was to plagiarise Pagan Myths and legend and use them for their own agenda, with a peculiar mix of Semitic and Indo-European religions and

2 2 of 7 10/18/ :30 AM Age: 22 Family: DeFacto Relationship Occupation: IT Analyst Politics: Ride the Tiger Posts: 773 myths they ensured that they had a broad encompassing religion which could be used as a real weapon against Europe and bring worship of the Semitic god to the Continent. "For the authentic revolutionary conservative, what really counts is to be faithful not to past forms and institutions, but rather to principles of which such forms and institutions have been particular expressions, adequate for a specific period of time and in a specific geographical area." Julius Evola - Men Among the Ruins Friday, March 14th, 2008 Translate: Ger->Eng Eng->Ger #12 Brynhild Last Seen: Friday, May 8th, 2009 Join Date: Oct 2007 Ethnicity: CeltoGermanic Subrace: Heinz variety Country: Australia State: New South Wales Location: South Coast Gender: Female Age: 47 Family: It's nobody's business! Occupation: Cleaner/Home duties Politics: Libertarian Religion: Heathen Posts: 706 Originally Posted by Beornulf No, the reason they are common is because they are all derived from the IE religious strain. Dyēus was the Indo-European name for the original chief god, later Zeus in Greek, Jupiter in Roman, Tyr in Germanic Religion and Dyaus Pita in Sanskrit. Actually, Tyr is the Norse equivalent for the Greek God Ares and the Roman God Mars. The Norse equal to Zeus is Thor. Both of these "gods" were born from Giant mothers. Originally Posted by Beornulf What Christianity did was to plagiarise Pagan Myths and legend and use them for their own agenda, with a peculiar mix of Semitic and Indo-European religions and myths they ensured that they had a broad encompassing religion which could be used as a real weapon against Europe and bring worship of the Semitic god to the Continent. I agree on that count. I haven't read anywhere in any of the texts suggesting that any of the deities mentioned were born from a divine mother. What has been mentioned many times, however is that they were either born from a brother/sister-husband/wife relationship, or in the case of Hercules and Achilles they were born from mortal mothers and god-like fathers. It's interesting to note in the Norse texts that the only such relationship between brother and sister occurred with Aegir and Ran, although it was also suggested that the Vanir God Njord's wife (mother of Frey and Freyja) was his sister, but such relationships weren't allowed among the Aesir deities. The two resurrections I can think of bearing any similarity to Christ's crucifixion is Odin hanging from the world tree Yggdrassil (he pierced himself in the side with his spear) and Baldur returning after Ragnarok. Friday, March 14th, 2008 Translate: Ger->Eng Eng->Ger #13 Beornulf Originally Posted by Brynhild Actually, Tyr is the Norse equivalent for the Greek God Ares and the Roman God Mars. The Norse equal to Zeus is Thor. Both of these "gods" were born from Giant mothers. Tyr became the Norse god of war yes, but was he not at first the original god/king

3 3 of 7 10/18/ :30 AM of gods before Odin? So of course I'm talking about the time of the roots, rather than the evolutions and roles of the gods throughout time. "For the authentic revolutionary conservative, what really counts is to be faithful not to past forms and institutions, but rather to principles of which such forms and institutions have been particular expressions, adequate for a specific period of time and in a specific geographical area." Julius Evola - Men Among the Ruins Last Seen: Tuesday, June 22nd, 2010 Join Date: Nov 2005 Ethnicity: Scottish/English Ancestry: Scotland and England Subrace: Nordid/Bruenn Country: New Zealand Location: Wellington Age: 22 Family: DeFacto Relationship Occupation: IT Analyst Politics: Ride the Tiger Posts: 773 Friday, March 14th, 2008 Translate: Ger->Eng Eng->Ger #14 Brynhild Last Seen: Friday, May 8th, 2009 Join Date: Oct 2007 Ethnicity: CeltoGermanic Subrace: Heinz variety Country: Australia State: New South Wales Location: South Coast Gender: Female Age: 47 Family: It's nobody's business! Occupation: Cleaner/Home duties Politics: Libertarian Religion: Heathen Posts: 706 Originally Posted by Beornulf Tyr became the Norse god of war yes, but was he not at first the original god/king of gods before Odin? So of course I'm talking about the time of the roots, rather than the evolutions and roles of the gods throughout time. I see what you mean now. Tyr's status (and loss of it) has a parallel with the Celtic God/King Nuada. They both lost their hands, and the powers that be forbade them to rule because they weren't entirely whole. Saturday, March 15th, 2008 Translate: Ger->Eng Eng->Ger #15 SwordOfTheVistula Been reading up on this stuff some more lately An interesting hypothesis that I have seen is that the bible, in particular Genesis and the 'old testament' was appropriated from the Persians and contains the ancient Indo-Aryan warrior mentality. The key part of this is to subsume the individual to the tribe, and remove fear and other emotions which come with a higher level of thinking (higher IQ, ability to predict the future, etc). This has also been distilled into perhaps its most pure form in Zen Buddhism in Japan, which was the code of the Samurai (via Hinduism and Buddhism being derived from it) The basic gist of the whole thing is that with a higher level of thinking and the ability to predict the future came negative things such as fear. You can't feel fear

4 4 of 7 10/18/ :30 AM without the ability to predict the future. Fear isn't a good thing though, particularly when it comes to such things as war, so to overcome it requires faith. The goal of religion is to remove thoughts of mortality and replace them with faith-to prevent 'overthinking'. This allows the creation of a warrior class which will fight fanatically without regard to their individual mortality. A completely rational individual would never do any such thing. Contact Congress on immigration Contact Congress to reject banker bailout "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Ben Franklin Last Seen: 18 Hours Ago Join Date: Aug 2007 Ethnicity: German Ancestry: 50% German, 25% English, 25% Irish Subrace: Nordid State: Virginia Location: Washington DC Age: 32 Family: Single adult Occupation: Construction, writer/editor Politics: Libertarian Religion: Atheist Posts: 3,189 Thursday, March 5th, 2009 Translate: Ger->Eng Eng->Ger #16 Timberwolf If you want to say that non-christian religions had an influence on early Christianity, then that's fine as well. But the implication that Jesus didn't exist, or had his story copied, flies in the face of historical evidence. I'm curious. What historical evidence exists that supports the existence of a man named Jesus who met all the characteristics of the Jesus mentioned in the Bible? Can you please present some contemporary evidence or an eyewitness documentation of the events of thew gospels? Last Seen: Sunday, June 5th, 2011 Join Date: Mar 2008 Status: Available Ethnicity: German-Dutch State: Ohio Location: Dayton Age: 26 Politics: Modern Survivalism

5 5 of 7 10/18/ :30 AM Religion: Norse/Naturalist Posts: 113 The Following User Says Thank You to Timberwolf For This Useful Post: Imperator X Saturday, March 7th, 2009 Translate: Ger->Eng Eng->Ger #17 Imperator X Mithras was born from the virgin Anahita. Horus was born from a phallus that his mother Isis fashioned from clay after Osiris' original member was lost in the Nile. While there were a number of dying-resurrecting god-man cults, the claim by these conspiracy theorists in films like Zeitgeist or Esoteric Agenda that the myths of the Buddha, Krishna or various other deities follow the Jesus myth down to the letter, are just plain false. The Buddha and Krishna were never crucified and resurrected. Dionysus was never crucified and resurrected.. When the Romans adopted Christianity, they blended the story with Mediterranean pagan elements like virgin birth, resurrection and solar symbolism this much is true. Pagan epithets of Isis were ascribed to the "Blessed Virgin Mary" (i.e. Star of the Sea, Patroness of Seafarers, Dome of Gold, Throne etc.) and Mediterranean god epithets transferred to Jesus (i.e. The Good Shepherd, Light of the World... both epithets of Mithras) The Romanization of Christianity is reflected in the movement of the Sabbath from the original Saturday to Sunday, the day of the Sun. Last Seen: Saturday, April 4th, 2009 Join Date: Jun 2004 Ethnicity: Celto-Germanic Subrace: Nordid/Atlantid. State: Massachusetts Location: Boston Age: 25 Family: Single, looking Occupation: Looking Politics: Constitutionalist Religion: Hindu - Shakta Posts: 884 The Pope is called Pontifex Maximus (i.e. "The Greatest Bridge" e.g. between God(s) and men) which was the title of the Chief Priest of the ancient Roman religion. The Church hierarchy is nothing more than a grand model of the Pagan priest colleges... That much is true. On an interesting, but related note... A title later ascribed to the Virgin.. Domus Aurea, lit. "Dome of Gold" was originally the name of Nero's palace. Sunday, March 8th, 2009 Translate: Ger->Eng Eng->Ger #18 Cynehelm Member Last Seen: Friday, November 27th, 2009 Join Date: Feb 2009 Ethnicity: Germanic Ancestry: Scotland, England, Northern Ireland State: California Family: Single adult Politics: Paleoconservative My understanding is that the ancient world did not value originality in the way we do today. Much the opposite. The fact that the Jesus story resembled earlier traditions would have been considered a point in its favor. The ancients would have been suspicious of any religious figure that did not follow known traditions.

6 6 of 7 10/18/ :30 AM Posts: 23 Sunday, March 8th, 2009 Translate: Ger->Eng Eng->Ger #19 Hyperboreanar Christianity is Paganism... The original word for God in Hebrew = Elohim. Elohim is plural, meaning Gods (ie. more then one) and not a single God. Also, most the bible has passages of plurality in relation to God. Genesis 1:26 (New International Version): Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness'' Last Seen: Thursday, May 14th, 2009 Join Date: Mar 2009 Ethnicity: English Ancestry: Shetland/England Subrace: A mixture of Nordic and others Country: England Age: 21 Politics: Technocracy Religion: I don't think i can be labeled. Posts: 95 Page 2 of 2 < 1 2 «Previous Thread Next Thread» Posting Rules You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts vb code is On Smilies are On [IMG] code is On HTML code is Off Similar Threads Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post Essential Viewing: Zeitgeist the Movie Pt.1: Religion: The Greatest Story Ever Told Loftor Christianity 1 Friday, September 28th, :48 PM History's Greatest Siegfried History 20 Friday, June 30th, :52 PM

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