John D. Lee, First Trial. Annie Hoge Testimony by Richard E. Turley Jr. All rights reserved.

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1 John D. Lee, First Trial Annie Hoge Testimony

2 [Rogerson did not transcribe the testimony of Annie Hoge.] [Bk 4 11 cont.]214 QWHAT IS YOUR NAME ANNIE E HOAG <WHERE RESIDE> WHERE DO I LIVE AIN SALT LAKE CITY 14TH WARD WHERE WERE YOU LIVING IN 57 A IN FORT HARMONY WHAT COUNTY WASHINGTON COUNTY IS IT WASHINGTON OR IRON SURLAND WE OBJECT TO ANY SUGGESTION I DO NOT KNOW WHER IT MAKES VERY MUCH DIFFERENCE ON WHICH SIDE WAS WASHINGTON [25] ANNIE ELIZABETH HOAG SWORN FOR PLAINTIFF.-- TH PROSECUTION. EXAMINED BY M R. Q. WHAT IS YOUR HNAME? A. ANNIE ELIZABETH HOAG.. Q. WHERE DO YOU LIVE? A. IN SALT LAKE CITY WHEN I AM HOME I4TH WARD. Q. WHERE WERE YOU LIVING IN I857? A. FORT HARMAONY. Q. WHAT COUNTY? A. WHASHINGTON COUNTY. Q. WASHINGTON OR IRON? A.MR. SURLAND: WE OBJECT TO ANY SUGGESTIONS.. Q. WAS IT WASHINGTON [[Bk 5 15]] ANNIE ELIZABETH HOAG SWORN FOR PROSECUTION WHAT IS YOUR NAME ANNIE ELIZABETH HOAG WHERE DO YOU LIVE IN SALT LAKE CITY WHEN I AM HOME 14 WARD WHERE WERE YOU LIVING 1857 FORT HARMONY WHAT COUNTY WASHINGTON COUNTY WASHINGTON OR IRON? OBJECTED TO ANY SUGGESTIONS WAS IT WASHINGTON 214. There are no transcription marks in Hoge s testimony. 923

3 OR IRON IT WAS IN IRON COUNTY FORT HARMONY OR SIDE OF CEDAR. WERE YOU LIVING RE YEAR OF 57 YES SIR. ALL YEAR NO ASSENT TO THIS <NO ANSWER> I WENT RE ABOUT CHRISTMAS CHRISTMAS OF WHAT YEAR OF 56 HOW LONG DID YOU LIVE RE AOVER YEAR PRETTY NEAR TWO YEARS ABOUT YEAR AND HALF DID YOU KNOW OR HEAR OF EMIGRANTS THAT WENT THROUGH RE OF MOUNTAIN MEADOW MASSACRE AYES SIR I WAS MEETING ONE CALLED BEFORE COUNTY OR IRON COUNTY? A. IT WAS IRON COUNTY. IT WAS IN FORT HARMONY, OR SIDE OF CEDAR.. Q. WERE YOU LIVING RE IN ALL OF YEAR OF I857? A. YES, SIR. Q. WHOLE YEAR? A. YES, SIR; WENT RE ABOUT CHRISTMAS. Q. WHAT YEAR? A. 56. Q. HOW LONG DID YOU LINVE RE? A. PRETTY NEAR TWO YEARS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. Q. DID YOU KNOW OR RHEAR HEAR OF EMIGRANT COMPANY THAT WENT THROUGH RE, AT MOUNTAIN MEADOW MASSA CRE? A. YES, SIR, I WAS IN MEETING, ONE CALLED BY COUNTY OR IRON IT WAS IRON COUNTY IT WAS IN FORT HARMONY OR SIDE OF CEDAR WERE YOU LIVING RE IN ALL YEAR OF 57 YES SIR WHOLE YES SIR YEAR YES SIR WENT RE ABOUT CHRISTMAS WHAT YEAR 56 HOW LONG DID YOU LIVE RE PRETTY NEAR TWO YEARS ABOUT A YEAR AND HALF DID YOU KNOW OR HEAR OF EMIGRANTS THAT WENT THROUGH RE AT MOUNTAIN MEADOW MASSACRE YES SIR I WAS IN MEETING THAT WAS CALLED 924

4 JOHN D LEE TO GO TO MASSACRE AND INDIANS GARED AND Y WENT ALL FORT N WAS RE MEETING AT THAT FORT AYES SIR RE WAS MEETING WERE YOU AT MEETING AI WAS AT MEETING WHO ELSE AIT WAS CALLED FOR ALL PEOPLE IN FORT CAN YOU NAME ANY OF PEOPLE THAT WERE RE A I CAN RECOLLECT RE WAS PRETTY NEAR ALL PEOPLE IN FORT MR. INGRAM S FAMILY MR. BARNES MR. GROVES I BELIEVE MR. YOUNG WAS LIVING RE AT TIME JOHN D. LEE BEFORE Y STARTED MASSACRE AND INDIANS CAME AND MEN FROM FORT. Q.WAS RE A MEETING AT THAT FORT? A. A. YES, SIR, RE WAS A MEETING.? Q. WERE YOU AT MEETING? A. YES, SIR. Q. WHO ELSE WAS RE? A. IT WAS CALLED FOR ALL PEOPLE IN FORRT. Q. CAN YOU NAME ANY PEOPLE THAT WERE RE? A. I CAN T RECOLLECT, RE WAS PRETTY NEAR ALL PEOPLE THAT WAS IN FORT: MR. INGRAM S FAMILY, MR. BARNES, MR. CROFTS, I BELIEVE MR. YOUNG WAS LIVING RE AT TIME, BEFORE THAT STARTED TO MASSACRE AND INDIANS GARED AND MEN FROM FORT WAS RE A MEETING YES SIR AT HARMONY YES SIR WERE YOU AT MEETING YES SIR WHO ELSE WAS RE IT WAS CALLED FOR ALL PEOPLE IN FORT CAN YOU NAME ANY PEOPLE THAT WERE RE I CAN RECOLLECT RE WAS PRETTY NEAR ALL MR. INGRAM S FAMILY MR. BARNES MR. GROVES I BELIEVE MR. YOUNG WAS LIVING RE NOT EXACTLY 925

5 MR. JOHN D LEE S FAMILY MR. SHIRTS AND HIS CHILDREN 215 BISHOP DAVIS. WHAT WAS DONE AT THAT MEETING A WHY JOHN D LEE SPOKE RE ABOUT {IN} i REGARD MOUNTAIN MEADOW MASSACRE IN REGARD GOING TO THIS MOUNTAIN MEADOW MASSACRE WHAT DID HE SAY HE OPENED MEETING. MR. SHIRTS CAME HOME <AT NIGHT> TOLD ME TO GO TO MEETING <RE WAS GETTING UP FOR MR. JOHN D. LEE S FAMILY. MR. SHITRTZS AND HIS FAMILY, BISHOP DAVIS AND HIS FAMILY. Q. WHO WAS WAS DOWN AT THAT MEETING?? A. JOHN D. LEE STOPPED RE TO ENQUIRE IN REGARD TO THIS MOUNTAIN MEADOW MASSACRE IN REGARD TO GOING TO THIS MOUNTAIN MEADOW MASSACRE.. Q. WHAT DID HE SAY ON OPENING MEETING?. A. HE OPENED MEETING, MR. SHIRTZS CAME HOME AT NIGHT AND T OLD JHIM HIM AT NIGHT AND TOLD HIM RE WAS GOING TO BE A MEETING FOR SURE JOHN D. LEE AND HIS FAMILY [[16]] MR. SHIRTS AND HIS FAMILY MR. BISHOP DAVIS HIS FAMILY BUT ONE[?] WHAT WAS DONE AT THAT MEETING JOHN D. LEE SPOKE RE IN REGARD TO GOING TO THIS MOUNTAIN MEADOW MASSACRE WHAT DID HE SAY HE OPENED MEETING MR. SHIRTS CAME HOME TO ME AT NIGHT AND TOLD ME RE WAS GOING TO BE A MEETING FOR 215. Peter Shirts and Annie Hoge were married at the time. Peter apparently also released a statement about the massacre. [Peter Shirts], statement, ca. 1876, manuscript 3141, Smithsonian Institution, National Anthropological Archives, Suitland, MD. 926

6 SAINTS RE WANTED PEOPLE TO GAR> OBJECTED TO BY SURLAND BY BISHOP WE OBJECT TO HER TALK WHAT HER HUSBAND SAID TO HER <WITNESS GOES ON MR. SHIRTS TOLD ME THAT IT WAS IN REGARDS TO SOME EMIGRANTS> I WANT HER TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AND NOTHING ELSE. BY CAREY SHE ONLY SHIRTS SHIRTS TOLD ME REMARKED[?] I WAS <WENT> IN <TO > MEETING NEXT MORNING AND JOHN D. LEE GOT UP ON STAND SAID HE CALLED MEETING IN CONSEQUENCE OF {AN EMIGRANT} i COMPANY OF GENTILES THAT SAINTS RE, AND THAT HE WANTED PEOPLE TO GAR THAERE. [26] AND MY HUSBAND TOLD ME OBJECTED TO WHAT HER HUSBAND TOLD HER OR ANYBODY ELSE. A. ME SHIRTZS TOLD ME THAT IT WAS IN REGARD TO SOME EMIGRANTS. I WENT TO MEETING NEXT MORNING; AND JOHN D. LEE GOT UP ON STAND AND SAID HE CALLED MEETING IN CONSEQUENCE OF AN EMIGRANT COMPANY OF GENTILES, SAINTS RE THAT HE WANTED PEOPLE TO GAR RE OBJECTED TO HER TALK WHAT HER HUSBAND SAID TO HER AND ANYBODY ELSE MR SHIRTS TOLD ME THAT IT WAS IN REGARDS TO SOME EMIGRANTS I WENT TO MEETING NEXT MORNING AND JOHN D LEE GOT UP ON STAND AND SAID HE CALLED MEETING IN CONSEQUENCE OF AN EMIGRANT COMPANY OF GENTILES THAT 927

7 WAS GOING THROUGH HE SAID Y HAD CONSIDERABLE {TROUBLE} p WITH GENTILES IN NAUVOO SOME TWO OR 3 {FAMILIES} i THAT WAS IN NAUVOO AND CROSSED[?] RIVER [[12]] TO PERISH WITH [?] STARVATION. WE CALLED MR. <BISHOP> SMITH DAME AT PAROWAN WERE GOING TO GO OVER RE AND GET MEN <OVER RE A NUMBER OF MEN WERE TO GO> IN CANYON <THAT Y HAD GONE OVER> TO GOING THROUGH. HE SAID THAT Y HAD SCONSIDPERABL E TROUBLE WITH GENTILES IN NAUVOO SOME TWO OR THREE FAMILIES THAT WAS IN NAUVOO AND CROSSED RIVER AND WERE DRIVEN OUT BY GENTILES AND PERISHED FROM STARVATION. AND HE WANTED ALL ALL OF M THAT MR. HAIGHT AND MR. DAME FROM PAROWAN WAS GOING WAS GOING TO GO OVER RE AND A NUMBER OF MEN WERE TO GO IN MORNING; THAT Y HAD GONE OVER TO WAS GOING THROUGH THAT Y HAD HAD ALREADY SUFFERED[?] CONSIDERABLE WITH SOME TWO OR 3 CROSSED/ACROSS [?] RIVER TO PERISH WITH STARVATION AND COLD AND THAT MR. HAIGHTS AND MR. DAME FROM PAROWAN AND BISHOP SMITH WAS BISHOP AT TIME WAS GOING TO GO OVER RE AND THAT Y HAD ALREADY GONE OVER TO 928

8 STOP EM FROM GOING INTO CANYON JOHN D. LEE WAS HAD GONE AWAY AND COME BACK FROM CEDAR CITY. < NIGHT BEFORE> Y HAD HAD LITTLE DIFFICULTY AS IT WAS DID NOT THINK Y COULD GET TO SOME UNLESS Y SENT SOME MORE <TO > GROUND BECAUSE <HAIGHT WAS GOING TO SEND SOME ONE MR. SHIRTS> GEORGE SHIRTS 216 WAS ORDERED BY DISPATCH TO GAR {} i INDIANS <ALL AROUND> Y WAS, AND MEET TOGER IN MORNING SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF STOP M FROM GETTING GOING INTO MOUNTAIN. MR. SMITH WAS BISHOP AT TIME; AND JOHN D. LEE HAD GONE AWAY AND CAME BACK FROM CEDAR CITY, AHD NIGHT BEFORE HE HAD HAD A LITTLE DIFFICULTY AS IT WAS.. AFTER Y SENT SOME MORE MEN, BISHOP DAME, ISAAC HAIGHT AND MR. SMITH NOT A STRONG ENOUGH BODY, AND GEORGE SHIRTZS, TO GET INDIANS ALL AROUND; Y WAS TO MEET TOGER IN MORNING SOMEWHERES OUTSIDE OGF STOP M FROM GOING INTO CANYON THAT JOHN D. LEE HAD GONE AWAY AND HAD COME BACK FROM CEDAR NIGHT BEFORE HAD LITTLE DIFFICULTY AS IT WAS HAVE M SEND SOME OR MEN AND BISHOP DAME ISAAC HAIGHT AND MR. SMITH NOT STRONG ENOUGH BODY GEORGE SHIRTS ALREADY DISPATCHED TO GAR INDIANS ALL AROUND Y WAS TO MEET TOGER IN MORNING SOMEWHERES OUTSIDE 216. George Shirts was a son of Peter Shirts who died June 21, 1857, at the age of twenty-five. Hoag s reference is likely Don Carlos, who gathered Indians for the massacre. Another son of Peter Shirts, King Darius Shirts (age twenty-four in 1857), was also subpoenaed for the trial. 929

9 FORT. JOHN D. LEE AND SOME OR MEN WAS TO GO OVER BY SURLAND SHE IS ASSUMING TO GIVE JOHN D. LEE S STATEMENT BY COURT ONLY AS SHE STATED WHAT WAS <SAID> IN MEETING SURLAND SHE HAS SPOKEN OF JOHN D. LEE S GOING TO PAROWAN AND RETURNING THAT DID NOT APPEAR TO BE ETC. COURT OVERRULED. GO ON. HE SAID Y HAD BEEN THAT <NIGHT IN CEDAR CITY> SOME OF MEN FORT. JOHN D. LEE AND SOME MEN WAS TO GO OVER BY MR. SURLAND: SHE IS ASSUMING TO GIVE JOHN D. LEE S STATEMENT. BY COURT : ONLY AS SHE STATESD WHAT WAS SIAID IN MEETING. COURT. OBJECTION OVERRULED. A. HE SAID THAT Y HAD BEEN CAROUSING THA T NIGHT IN CEDAR CITY. SOME MAN FORT I FORGET WHERE JOHN D. LEE AND MEN FROM FORT WAS TO GO OVER AND HASTEN ON SAYING THAT PRESIDENT HAIGHT S WISH THAT Y SHOULD OBJECTED TO BY SURLAND AS HEARSAY GO ON HE SAID THAT Y HAD BEEN CAROUSING THAT NIGHT IN CEDAR [[17]] CITY AND SOME 930

10 <EMIGRANTS> HAD GOT DRUNK AND WENT TO CURSING AND <WENT TO> HAIGHT S PLACE CALLED HIM OUT HE WOULD NOT GO MEN TOLD HIM IF HE WAS {A} i MAN TO COME OUT <RE> PRESIDENT HAIGHT SAID WOULD NOT GO. HAIGHT WENT OUT THROUGH BACK DOOR GOT SOME MEN TO ARREST SE MEN THAT WAS DRUNK. Y TOLD ISAAC HAIGHT IF HE DID NOT COME OUT TO SPEAK TO EM THAT Y WOULD SHOW HIM WHAT Y COULD DO N[?]. Y WAS GOING TO CALIFORNIA AND SEND AN ARMY OF HAD GOT DRUNK, AND CURSING AROUND PRESIDENT S HAIGHT S PLACE AND CALLED HIM OUT AND HE WOU LD NOT GO; MAN TOLD HIM IF HE WAS A MAN HE WOULD TO COME OUT RE./ PRESIDENT HAIGHT WOULD NOT GO OUT; BUT HE WENT OUT THROUGHT BACK DOOR AND GOT SOME MEN TO ARREST THIS MAN THAT HAD GOT DRUNK. Y TOLD ISAAC HAIGHT THAT IF Y DIDN T COME OUT AND SPEAK TO M THAT [27] Y WOULD WSHOOT HIM.. THAT THAEY WERE GOING TO CALIFORNIA AND SEND AN ARMY OF EMIGRANTS HAD GOT DRUNK WENT TO PRESIDENT HAIGHT S PLACE AND CALLED HIM OUT MEN TOLD HIM IF HE WAS A MAN TO COME OUT RE PRESIDENT HAIGHT WOULD NOT COME OUT BUT WENT OUT THROUGH BACK DOOR AND GOT SOME MEN TO GO AND ARREST THOSE MEN THAT HAD GOT DRUNK TOLD ISAAC HAIGHT THAT IT WAS NOT MUCH CONSEQUENCE THAT Y WAS GOING TO CALIFORNIA SEND AN ARMY OF 931

11 SOLDIERS TO ATTACK ANY <HAIGHT> DAMN MORMONS IN COUNTRY PRESIDENT <NG/N[?] HAIGHT> SO THOUGHT IT WAS BEST TO PUT M OUT OF WAY BEFORE Y WENT ON; <BEFORE Y DID ANY MORE HARM> SO DID MR. DAMES HE WANTED NOW FOR ALL OF M TO LIFT UP IR HANDS THAT IT SHOULD BE CARRIED OUT. SO OF COURSE Y LIFTED UP IR HANDS AS THAT WAS SOLDIERS TO TAKE BRIGHAM YOUNDG, DAME, HAIGHT AND EVERY OR DAMN MORMOHN IN COUNTRY. PRESIDENT HAIGHT SO THOUGHT IT WAS BEST TO PUT M OUT OF WAY BEFORE Y DID ANY HARM, SO DID BISHOP DAME, SO HE WISHED TO KN9OW IF SAINTS WAS WILLING, FOR M TO LIFT UP IR HANDS IN REGARD TO MATTER, THAT IT SHOULD BE CARRIED OUT., IF IF SAINTS OF COU RSE LIFTED UP IR HANDS, SO OF COURSE Y LIFTED UP IR HANDS, HOW HE KNEW THAT HIS WORD WAS SOLDIERS [?] TO ATTACK BRIGHAM YOUNG DAME HAIGHT AND EVERY OR DAMN MORMON IN COUNTRY PRESIDENT HAIGHT THOUGHT IT WAS BEST TO PUT M OUT OF WAY BEFORE Y DONE ANY MORE HARM SO DID BISHOP DAME SO HE WISHED TO KNOW IF SAINTS WAS NOT WILLING FOR M TO LIFT UP IR HANDS IN REGARD TO MATTER FOR SAINTS OF COURSE LIFTED IR HANDS UP FOR HE/Y[?] KNEW THAT HIS WORD[?] WAS 932

12 LAW Y LIFTED UP IR HANDS JOHN D. LEE I WENT[?] UP [?] ONLY LIFTED[?] MINE UP BUT <&> LET IT DROP WHEN HE CAME TO ASK FOR CONTRARY I LET IT DROP SOME WAS ONLY IT WAS DECIDED, ON NEXT MORNING THAT JOHN D. LEE AND INDIANS SHOULD START FOR RE IN MORNING I BELIEVE PRETTY LAW. AS THAT WAS LAW SO OF COURSE Y LIFTED YUP IR HANDS. JOHN D. LEE ASKED IF RE WAS ANY TO COHNTRARY. I LIFTED MY HAND UP; BUT I WAS SO GUILTY OF CONSCIENCE THAT I COULD NOT KEEP IT UP. HE ASKED FOR CONTRARY AND I COULD NOT LIFT MUINE BUT RE WERE TO TWO OR THREE TO CONTRARY. IT WAS TURESDAY N THAT JOHN D. LEE, AND INDIANS SHOULD START TOO, NEXT MORNING AND MEN FROM FORT. I BELIEVE MEN PRETTY LAW JOHN D. LEE ASKED IF Y IF RE WAS ANY CONTRARY I WAS SO GUILTY OF CONSCIENCE THAT I COULD NOT KEEP IT ASKED CONTRARY I COULD NOT[?] 217 LIFT/LEAVE[?] MINE TWO OR THREE AND LIFT IR HANDS CONTRARY IT WAS DECIDED ON N THAT JOHN D. LEE AND INDIANS SHOULD START TOO IN MORNING AND MEN FROM FORT I BELIEVE MEN PRETTY 217. Shorthand symbol is illegible; could possibly mean could not, but is a questionable transcription. 933

13 NEAR ALL MEN WENT EXCEPT <MR. SHIRTS> SOME OF MR. SHIRT S SONS Q Y WAS GONE. {QUESTION HOW LONG WERE Y GONE} i I DO NOT KNOW 3 OR 5 DAYS I WOULD NOT SWEAR TO THIS WHEN Y CAME BACK WOMEN WAS VERY ANXIOUS WHEN WORD CAME <WHEN Y HEARD> Y WAS COMING. I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 2 O CLOCK WE WERE ALL UP IN MEETING HOUSE N [?] WE WAS ALL VERY STILL SITTING RE NEAR ALL WENT EXCEPTING MR. SHIRTZS AND ONE OF THHIS SONS. Q. HOW LONG WERE Y GONE? A. Y WAS GONE I DON T KNOW THREE OR FIVE DAYS, I WOULDN T SWEAR.. WHEN Y CAME BACK MEN WOMIES WERE VERY ANXIOUS WOMEN WAS VERY ANXIOUS TO KNOW I F Y WAS COMING BACK. WORD CAME THAT Y WAS CO MING ABOUT TWO O CLOCK. WE WAS ALL UP IN MEETING HOUSE N TO BE CERTAIN WHEN Y CAME AND RUMOR WAS WHILE WE WERE SITTING RE NEAR ALL WENT EXCEPTING MR. SHIRTS AND ONE OF HIS SONS Y WAS GONE I THINK FIVE DAYS WOMEN WAS VERY ANXIOUS TO KNOW IF Y WAS COMING BACK WORD CAME THAT Y WAS COMING ABOUT TWO O CLOCK WE WAS ALL UP IN MEETING HOUSE TO BE RE WHEN Y CAME ACCOUNT OF RUMOR WE WAS ALL SITTING RE 934

14 AND RUMOR CAME Y HAD COME I LOOKED OUT OF {} i WINDOW SAW JOHN D LEE AT HEAD [[13]] OF INDIANS Y HAD ALL GAR{ED} p RE. {HE} p WAS GIVING M {A} i TREAT; RE WITH SQUASH PUMPKIN PIES ETC. Y HAD LOTS OF BLANKETS RE SHOES ONE THING AND ANOR {&} i SO ON JOHN D LEE HE CAME UP IN MEETING ROOM SO DID MEN HE OPENED MEETING HE SAID THANK GOD HE HAD COME BACK ALL RIGHT. <& HE THANKED GOD HE> HAD HE HAD HAD A VERY THAT Y HA D COME. I LOOKED OUT OF WINDOW TO SEEAW JOHN D. LEE WAS AT HEAD OF INDIANS INDIANS ALL GARED RE ABOUT US RE. HE WAS GIVING M A TREAT WITH MELLONS, SQUASHES, PUNKINS AND PIES. Y HAD LOTS OF BLANKETS SHOES AND ONE THING AND ANOR AND SO ON. JOHN D. LEE, HE CAME UP INTO MEETING ROOKM, SO DID MEN. HE OPENED MEETING AND SAID THA T HE HAD COME BACK ALL RIGHT AND HE THANKED GOD THAT NOTHING HAD HAPPENED; BUT THAT HE HAD HAD A VERY RUMOR WAS THAT Y HAD COME I LOOKED OUT AND SAW JOHN D. LEE AT HEAD OF INDIANS INDIANS ALL GARED ABOUTS RE HE WAS ACT[?] GIVING M TREAT M M WITH[?] MELONS BLANKETS HATS SHOES AND ONE THING [[18]] ANOR GUNS AND SO ON AND JOHN D. LEE HE CAME UP IN MEETING ROOM SO DID MEN HE OPENED MEETING AND SAID THAT HE HAD COME BACK <AND HE THANKED GOD> THAT NOTHING HAD HAPPENED THAT HE HAD A VERY 935

15 NARROW ESCAPE FOR Y WAS SO ENTRENCHED TOGER SO THAT HE COULD NOT GET TO M, Y HAD <DUG> PIT <DIRT TO > TOP OF <OF > WAGON WHEELS SO Y COULD NOT GET TO M. Y WAS NOT GOING TO DO DIRTY WORK ALONE. HE WENT TO COMPANY TENT AS HE WAS TRYING TO OPEN TENT RE WAS TWO BULLETS WENT <THROUGH HIS HAT AND CROWN OF HIS>. BUT IT DIDN T HURT HIM, <DIDN T> <EVEN> AS NARROW ESCAPE FOR Y WAWS SO ENTRENCHEDOT [28] THAT Y COULD NOT GET TO M. ALL WAGONS WERE ENTRENCHED TOGER. Y HAD DUG AND PUT UP DIRT TO TOPS OF WAGON WHEELS: SO INDIANS, POINTING TO TOWN SAID Y WAS NOT GOING TO DO IR DI DAMN DIRTY WORK ALONE. HE WENT TO COMPANIES COMPANIES TENT AS HE WAS TRYING TO POPEN TENT; RE WAS TWO BULLETS WENT THROUGH HIS HAT CROWN OF HIS HAT BUT IT DIDN T HURT HIM DIDN T EVEN AS NARROW ESCAPE FOR Y WAS ENTRENCHED SO THAT Y COULD NOT GET TO M ALL WAGONS WAS ENTRENCHED TOGER Y HAD DUG AND PUT DIRT TO LIPS OF WAGON WHEELS ASKED INDIANS TO TO GO TOGER AND POINT TO TOWN[?] Y WAS NOT GOING TO DO IR DAMN DIRTY HE HAD TAKEN M RE [?] ONE WENT THROUGH CROWN OF HIS HAT BUT IT DIDN T HURT HIM DIDN T EVEN AS 936

16 MUCH AS HIS HURT AS {GRAZE} i HIS HEAD. LORD HAD BLESSED HIM HE SAID HE WOULD LIKE PUT {UP} p FLAG OF TRUCE JOHN D. LEE PUT IT UP WHEN HE WENT TO OPEN TENT HE SHOT AT HIM. {HE} p TOOK HIS HANDKERCHIEF {AND} i PUT IT ON A STICK AS A FLAG OF TRUCE ONE OF GENTLEMEN CAME OUT FROM COMPANY ASKED HIM IF HE MEANT WHAT HE SAID YES HE MEANT PEACE AND/TO[?] GENTLEMAN DO YOU GIVE MUCH AS HURT GRAZE HIS HEAD, THAT LORD HAD BLESSED HIM. RE WAS ONE WENT THROUGH SHAWL OF HIS BLANKET. HE SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO PUT UP A FLAG OF TRUCE JOHN D. LEE PUT IT UP. WHEN HE WENT TO P OPEN TENT, Y SHOT AT HIM AND AFTER HE PASSED BACK HE TOOK HIS HANKERCHIEF AND PUT IT ON A STICK AS A FLAG OF TRUCE. ONE OF GENTLEMEN CAME OUT FROM COMPANY AND ASNKED IF HE MEANT WHAT HE MEANT IF HE MEANT WHAT HE SHOWED BY FLAG.. HE SAID YES. HE SAID DO YOU PROMISE MUCH AS GRAZE HIS HEAD THAT LORD HAD BLESSED HIM OR ONE WENT THROUGH SHAWL OF HIS BLANKET GOT[?] ONE MAN PUT UP FLAG OF TRUCE WHO JOHN D. LEE WHEN HE WENT TO OPEN TENT Y SHOT AT HIM [?] AND AFTER HE PASSED BACK TOOK HIS HANDKERCHIEF PUT IT ON A STICK AS A FLAG OF TRUCE ONE OF GENTLEMEN CAME OUT FROM COMPANY AND ASKED HIM IF HE MEANT WHAT HE SHOWED BY FLAG HE SAID YES HE[?] MEANT PEACE DO YOU PROMISE 937

17 US PEACE HE SAID YES AND SAYS ANOR ONE NO <BUT HE SAYS> ALL I WISH YOU IS TO SURRENDER YOUR ARMS AND WE WE {WILL SEE} p THAT YOU GO UNHURT ANOR MAN SAYS NO SAYS HE HE IS WHITE MAN <HE IS ONLY A WHITE MAN PAINTED LIKE AN INDIAN>. AND SO JOHN D. LEE HE SPOKE { } p IF YOU GIVE UP YOUR ARMS HE IS FOOLING THIS MAN SAYS I DON T KNOW HE PROMISES PEACE IF WE /SL[?] WILL GIVE UP YOUR ARMS DON T YOU BE US PEACE, LEE SAID YES., WE MEAN PEACE. HE SAID DO YOU PROMISE US PEACE, HE SAID YES, I WISH YOU TO SURRENDER YOUR YOUR ARMS AND WE WILL SEE THAT YOU GO UNHARMED. ANOR MAN AMONG EMIGRANTS SAYS, NO, DON T YOU DO IT, DON T YOU SEE THAT THAT MAN IS NOT AN INDIAN ONLY A WHITE MAN PAINTED LIKE AN INDIAN, AND IF YOU GIVE UP YOUR ARMS, YOU ARE A FOOLS. THIS MAN SAYS I DON T KNOW, HE PROMISES UPS PEACE.. N OR MAN SAID IF YOU GIVE UP YOUR ARMS YOU ARE A FOOLS, ANOR ONE SAID DON T YOU US PEACE HE SAID YES ANOR ONE CAME OUT AND ALL I WISH YOU IS TO GIVE UP YOUR ARMS AND WE WE LL LET YOU GO UNHURT ANOR MAN SAID DON T YOU SEE THAT THAT MAN IS NOT AN INDIAN ONLY WHITE MAN PAINTED LIKE AN INDIAN GIVE UP YOUR ARMS YOU ARE A FOOL THIS MAN SAYS IF YOU GIVE UP YOUR ARMS YOU ARE A FOOL ANOR ONE SAID YOU 938

18 SUCH GOD DAMNED FOOL AS THAT IF YOU DO YOU ARE DEAD MEN JOHN D LEE SAYS IF YOU WILL GIVE UP YOUR ARMS I PROMISE M PEACE <ALL I WANT IS [?]> AND Y COULD {TO} i GO ON EVERYBODY UNARMED. JOHN D LEE WENT TO TAKE IR ARMS ONE BY ONE AS Y GAVE M HE SET AND PASSED M TO INDIANS {WELL} i AFTER INDIANS HAD GOT IR ARMS Y TOOK M OUT ONE BY ONE {ON } p <SIDE> INDIANS ON OR SIDE BE SUCH GOD DAMN FOLOLS AS THAT, IF YOU DO YOU ARE DEAD MEN. JOHN D. LEE SAYS IF YOU WILL GIVE UP YOUR ARMS, I PROMISE M PEACE ALL I WANTS IS ARMS, AND Y SURRENDERED UP IR ARMS ON PROMISE OF PEACE. JOHN D. LEE N WENT TO TAKE IR ARMS ONE BY ONE AND AS Y GAVE M UP AND PASSED M TO INDIANS; AND INDIANS HAD ALL ARMS, HE GOT MEN TO TAKE M OUT ONE BY ONE. WHEN Y GOT MEN OUT UP RE, HE HAD INDIANS ALL IN REAR ON OR SIDE ARE GOD DAMN FOOL IF YOU DO JOHN D. LEE SAYS NO I WILL PROMISE YOU PEACE ALL I WANT IS YOUR ARMS [[19]] [?] AND SURRENDERED UP IR ARMS PROMISED PEACE JOHN D. LEE N TOOK ARMS N ONE BY ONE AND PASSED M TO INDIANS AS Y GAVE M AFTER INDIANS HAD ALL ARMS HE GOT MEN TO GO OUT ONE BY ONE WHEN Y GOT MEN OUT UP[?] RE HE HAD INDIANS ALL IN A ROW ON OR SIDE 939

19 TO SHOOT EVERY ONE WITH IR OWN ARMS AND AFTER THAT HE SAID RE WAS SEVERAL THAT WAS HID OUT AND DID NOT GO YET AND WHEN Y CAME TO ONE MAN THAT HAD HIS CHILD IN HIS ARMS AN INFANT BABE SAYS {HE} i GIVE UP THAT CHILD NO LEE I KNOW YOU I {RECOGNIZE YOU} i IF YOU {ARE} i PAINTED DO YOU KNOW PENALTY OF SHEDDING INNOCENT BLOOD IF YOU KILL ME YOU WILL YOU KILL MY LITTLE TO SHOOT EVERY ON [page torn] [29] EMIGRANTS WITH IR OWN ARMS WHAT Y HAD DELIVERED TO INDIANS, AND AFTER THAT HE SAID RE WAS SEVERAL THAT WAS HID SO THAT HE DIDN T GET AND WHEN Y CAME TO ONE MAN THAT HAD HIS CHILD IN HIS ARMS AN INFANT BABE, HE SAYS GIVE UP THAT CHILD. NO, LEE, SAYS MAN, I KNOW YOU, I RECOGNISE YOU IF YOU ARE PAINTED AND YOU KNOW PENALTY OF SHEDDING INNOCENT BLOOD. IF YOU KILL ME YOU KILL MY AND RE IS WHITE MEN TOO IN ROW AND SHOT M DEAD SHOT M EVERY ONE WITH IR OWN ARMS THAT Y HAD DELIVERED TO INDIANS RE WAS SEVERAL THAT WAS HID OUT THAT Y DIDN T GET RE WAS ONE MAN HAD HIS CHILD IN HIS ARMS HE SAYS TO HIM SAYS LEE GIVE UP THAT CHILD NO LEE I RECOGNIZE YOU IF YOU ARE PAINTED YOU KNOW PENALTY OF SHEDDING INNOCENCE BLOOD 940

20 CHILD I WILL PART WITH {} i LAST {DROP} i [[14]] DROP OF BLOOD RE IS IN MY BODY BEFORE I GIVE UP MY CHILD. N JOHN D. LEE SAID IT WAS HIS TURN TO SHOOT AND HE SHOT HIM THROUGH HEART {AND} i KILLED {} i CHILD AT SAME TIME. HE SAID HE WAS NOT UNDER PENALTY OF SHEDDING INNOCENT BLOOD. ~ {BECAUSE MAN DID NOT GIVE UP HIS CHILD AND HE WANTED MEETING TO HOLD HIM GUILTLESS} i <I SEEN CHILD, I WILL PART WITH LAST DROP OF BLOOD RE IS IN MY BODY BEFORE I GIVE UP MY CHILD.. L3EE ASKED HIM AGAIN IF HE WOULD GIVE UP HIS CHILD AND HE SAID NO; N JOHN D. LEE SAID IT WAS HIS TURN TO ASSIST AND HE SHOT HIM THROUGH HEART AND KILLED CHILD AT SAME TIME. HE SAID HE DIDN T CONSIDER HIMSELF UNDER PENALTY OF SHEDDING INNOCENT BLOOD, HE COULD NOT HELP IT, BECAUSE MAN WOULD NOT GIVE UP HIS CHILD. I SEEN I WILL PART WITH LAST DROP OF BLOOD IN MY BODY LEE ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD NOT GIVE UP HIS CHILD NO HIS TURN TO SHOOT IF/FOR[?] HE HE SHOT HIM THROUGH HEART AND KILLED CHILD AT SAME TIME DIDN T CONSIDER HIMSELF UNDER PENALTY OF SHEDDING INNOCENCE BLOOD COULD NOT HELP AS WELL AS/SEEMS[?] MAN WOULD NOT GIVE UP CHILD I SEEN AN 941

21 EXPRESS TO BRIGHAM> ABOUT THIS TIME JUST WHILE Y WAS IN MEETING. DID HE SAY ANYTHING MORE ABOUT TRANSACTION ABOUT DIFFICULTY AT {} i MASSACRE ABOUT KILLING {OF}I EMIGRANTS < A NO SIR FOR > FOR EXPRESS CAME N JUST N. DID YOU SEE EXPRESS AYES SIR I SAW PAPER BROUGHT UP {DID} i YOU READ IT {?} i NO SIR. DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WAS DONE WITH EXPRESS TO BRIGHAM AT SALT LAKE ABOUT THIS TIME EXPRESS CAME BACK JUST WHILE WE WERE IN MEETING Q. DID HE SAY ANYTHING MORE ABOUT DIFFICULTY AT MASSACRE.? ABOUT KILLING ALL EMIGRANTS? A. NO, SIR, FOR EXPRESS CAME JUST MN. Q. DID YOU SEE EXPRESS? A. YES, SIR, I SAW PAPER BROUGHT UP. Q. DID YOU READ IT? A. NO, SIR. Q. N YOU NEED NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT. Q. DO YOU KNOW AHNYTHING ABOUT TWHAT WAS DONE WITH EXPRESS TO BRIGHAM TO SALT LAKE ABOUT THIS TIME EXPRESS CAME BACK JUST WHILE IN MEETING DID HE SAY ANYTHING MORE ABOUT TRANSACTION DIFFICULTY AT MASSACRE AND KILLING OF EMIGRANTS NO SIR NOT AT TIME FOR EXPRESS CAME AT THAT TIME DID YOU SEE EXPRESS YES SIR I SAW PAPER BROUGHT UP DID YOU READ IT NO SIR N YOU NEED NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT [[20]] DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WAS DONE WITH 942

22 {} i CHILDREN ARE WAS SOME CHILDREN BROUGHT IN FORT I BELIEVE 4 AT LEAST I KNOW MRS. INGRAM HAD ONE LIVING WITH HER A YOUNG BABE <WAS VERY SICK FOR A LENGTH TIME> I EXPECT IT DIED. JOHN D. LEE HAD ONE AND GROVES HAD ANOR I SAW M WHEN I <CAME> DOWN FROM MEETING LITTLE FELLOW WAS CRYING SAID <THAT WAS> INDIAN HAD KILLED HIS PA. {HOW} i OLD CHILD WAS ATHINK {IT MUST HAVE BEEN} i BEEN ABOUT 7 OR 8 GOOD TALL LITTLE FELLOW WHO HAD CHILDREN. A. RE WAS SOME CHILDREN BROUGHT IN FORT, I BELIEVE FOUR, AT LEAST I KNOW MRS. INGRAM HAD ONE LITTLE INFANT BABE, IT WAS VERY SICK FOR A LENGTH OF TIME, I EXPECT IT DIED.. JOHN D. LEE HAD ONE AND GROVES HAD ONE. I SAW M WHEN I CAME DOWN FROM MEETING LITTLE FELLOW WAS SCRYING RE AND SAID THAT WAS INDIAN THAT HAD KILLED HIS PA IF HE DOES PUT HIS COAT AND PANTS ON. [30] Q. HOW OLD A CHILD WAS THAT? A. IT MUSLT HAVE BEEN BETWEEN 7 AND8 QUITE A TALL LITTLE FELLOW. Q. WHO HAD CHILDREN SOME CHILDREN BROUGHT IN FORT I BELIEVE 4 AT LEAST 3 I KNOW MRS. INGRAM HAD ONE LITTLE INFANT BABE WAS VERY SICK FOR A LENGTH OF TIME JOHN D. LEE HAD ONE AND GROVES HAD ANOR I SAW M WHEN I CAME DOWN FROM MEETING LITTLE FELLOW WAS CRYING RE AND SAID THAT WAS INDIAN THAT HAD KILLED HIS PA FOR HE HAD HIS BEST COAT AND PANTS ON HOW OLD CHILD WAS THAT BETWEEN 7 AND 8 QUITE A TALL LITTLE FELLOW WHO HAD 943

23 THAT CHILD < A GROVES> AWHAT BECAME OF THAT CHILD AI DO NOT KNOW WHAT BECAME OF HIM AFTER THAT. < EXPRESS CAME INTO MEETING.> JOHN D LEE TOOK EXPRESS IN HIS HAND LOOKED AT IT QNEVER MIND EXPRESS I WANT TO KNOW WHAT BECAME OF {THAT} i CHILD A I DO NOT KNOW NEVER SAW HIM AFTER THAT BECAUSE JOHN D LEE SAID WE WAS NOT TO ASK EM ANY QUESTIONS WHATEVER IN NO TIME. NOTHING SAID TO EM AT ALL Y THAT CHILD? A. GROVES. Q. WHAT BECAME OF THAT CHILD? A. I DON YT KNOW WHAT BECAME OF T HIM AFTER THA T. EXPRESS CAME IN MEETING, JOHN D. LEE TOOK EXPRESS MESSAGE IN HIS HANDS AND LOOKED AT IT Q. NEVER MIND EXPRESS, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT BACAME OF THAT CHILD. A. I DON T KNOW, I VNEVER SAW HIM AFTER THAT, BECAUSE JOHN D. LEE SAID BECAUSE WE WAS NOT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS WHATEVER NOT ANY TIME NOTHING SAID TO M AT ALL BECAUSE I REMEMBER THAT Y THAT CHILD GROVES WHAT BECAME OF HIM I DON T KNOW EXPRESS CAME IN MEETING JOHN D. LEE TOOK EXPRESS IN HIS HAND AND LOOKED AT IT NEVER MIND WHAT BECAME OF CHILD I NEVER SAW HIM AFTER THAT BECAUSE JOHN D. LEE SAID WE WAS NOT TO ASK EM QUESTIONS WHATEVER NOT ANY/IN NO[?] TIME NOTHING SAID TO M AT ALL TO CAUSE M TO REMEMBER THAT Y 944

24 WANTED EM TO FORGET EVENTS THAT HAD TRANSPIRED FROM <THIS> AFFAIR WHO HAD THIS CHILD AGROVES <DID GROVES> LIVE IN HARMONY OVER CORNER OVER SAME ROW AS JOHN D LEE < Q YOU NEVER SAW CHILD AFTER THAT DID YOU> I NEVER SAW CHILD THAT VERY SAME AFTERNOON A I NEVER SAW IT AFTERWARD AY SAID Y HAD TO KEEP {IT SECRET} i SECRET. BY BISHOP YOU MAY THAT IS ALL YOU CAN GO. BY COURT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ONE QUESTION <COURT> WHO WAS WANTED M TO FORGET AEVERYTHING THA T HAD TRANSPIRED THROUGH THIS AFFAIR. Q. WHO HAD THIS CHILD? A. GROVES. Q. DID GROVES LIVE IN HARMONY? A. YES, SIR., OVER CORNER OVER SAME ROW AS JOHN D. LEE. Q. YOU NEVER SAVW CHILD AFTER THAT, DID YOU? A. THAT VERY SAME AFTERNOON I I NEVER SAW IT AFTER THAT. Y SAID Y HAD TO KEEP IT SECRETED. BY MR. BISHOP: YOU MAY GO, THAT IS ALL, YOU MAY GO. BY COURT: WHO WAS WANTED M TO FORGET EVERYTHING THAT HAD TRANSPIRED FROM THIS AFFAIR WHO HAD THIS CHILD GROVES DID GROVES LIVE IN HARMONY YES SIR YOU NEVER SAW CHILD AFTER THAT DAY THAT VERY SAME AFTERNOON I NEVER SAW CHILD AFTER THAT FOR[?] Y SAID Y HAD TO KEEP CHILD SECRETED CROSS EXAMINATION COURT WHO WAS 945

25 PARTY WHO HAD SE CLOS ON IT WAS INDIAN JOE I SAW CLOS OF MR. GROVES. I SAW CLOS THAT HE HAD ON & PANTS AND COAT. PARTY THAT HAD SE CLOS ON? A. IT WAS INDIAN JOE, THAT WAS HERE, OF MR. GROVES I SAW CLOS THAT HE HAD ON AND PANTS AND COAT. PARTY THAT HAD THOSE CLOS ON IT WAS AN INDIAN JOE THAT WAS HERE TO/OF[?] MR. GROVES I SAW CLOS THAT HE HAD ON MYSELF PANTS AND COAT. 946