Julie Rowe: We d like to welcome to the Julie Rowe Show today. We've got a great podcast lined up, and we ve got Eric Smith on the line. Hi Eric!

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1 Julie Rowe: We d like to welcome to the Julie Rowe Show today. We've got a great podcast lined up, and we ve got Eric Smith on the line. Hi Eric! Eric Smith: Hi there Julie. Julie: So today we thought we would talk about some of the things that inflict, and some of the issues that inflict us here on Planet Earth. Expressly the topic of: demons, devils, disembodied or unclean spirits. And then the counter to that, that which helps us heal and minister to us which is: Guardian and Ministering Angels. This is a topic of interest. I ve had thousands of people me and several hundred of them asking questions about this and how to handle some of the experiences they re having in their lives. So, with that, after talking to Eric about what we could do a podcast on we decided together that this would be a good way to kind of do a basic overview or introduction for those who are seeking a little bit more information. Maybe they have need for a little bit of clarity, maybe they ve heard some things out there. There s a lot of fear energy revolving around things like ghosts, demons, and devils. And in an effort to try to dispel some of that and also spread truth about the importance of knowing both the Light and, the Light from the dark and being able to discern spirits, like we are hearing from our leaders and from those in the Scriptures. The importance as we move forward into the future, expressly into the tribulations, it s extremely important that we learn how to deal with these entities and unclean spirits. And on the counter to that, learn how to invite Light into our lives so that we can have added power. So, having said that, I m gonna turn the question time over to Eric and see what he has for me, because none of this, like the other podcasts, none of, none of these are pre-planned. We just come up with a topic and start talking. So let's see where this goes, Eric. Eric: Sure. So, I don t exactly have questions but as I ve been thinking about the topic, some things have come to my mind and so I m gonna start there and then you can just respond as you see fit, but. When I was seventeen years old is when I first read through the New Testament and had a change of heart. I knew, in reading the New Testament, that Jesus Christ was the son of God and that He was the Savior of the World. And, more personally, I knew that He was my Savior. And I felt darkness leave my life when I, I guess you could say when I began to admit that and say to Him that I knew that He was my Savior and I was grateful for Him. I also saw early on that, He spent an awful lot of His mortal mission casting out devils. I mean, you know, He gave fine sermons and He healed the sick and things but, my goodness, I mean, He spent a lot of His time casting out devils, demons, unclean spirits, and rebuking them. And, and then I, I kind of think about where we are today. I feel like we live in a pretty evil world and yet, there s hardly any mention of the devil. And those who do mention the devil tend to be considered or viewed kind of, a little off, a little crazy, maybe even a little old fashioned. I just

2 find that interesting, that that was such a focus for Him in His day and it s not focused on or talked about hardly at all, in our day. Julie: I find that interesting as well. And, having gone public with my story, three years ago in May of 2014, I can personally attest to the fact that people, people do think you re a little bit strange in our society if you talk about the Spirit Realm. And, I ve had a lot of energy come at me, a lot of s, and people come up to me at speaking events when I was traveling and speaking with asking questions, being concerned. Some of them calling me names and other negative energy because, I believe at the root of that is fear energy. It s completely inspired by the adversary because he does not want people to be exposed to Truth and Light of any sort. And especially does not want them to have power to combat the evil forces that are at war against us here on the Earth and elsewhere. So, I find it interesting too, that it s expressly in the Scriptures, time and time and time again. We have the pattern there. We don t have a lot of instruction with how He actually did it, compared to maybe what would be required of us these days. But there are places where we can learn of these things and I think it s extremely important in our daily lives, it always has been, but it s even more so important as I see us going into the tribulations, whenever that may be and through the tribulations as we bring in the Millennium, it is going to be increasingly important for us to be able to know how to cast out these unclean spirits, or invite them to go to the Light, if they re unclean or disembodied. That s the first line that I see. I feel like most of the unclean spirits are, confused, more than anything, and then we have the entities which are the actual devils and demons that have been part of the one third that were cast out in the premortal realm before we came to Earth. Now the first, the first thing that I, I think is interesting Eric, is, we ve got several people, and many of those in the Christian faiths that don t even believe that we had a world before we came to this world. And I am, I am here to witness and testify to you that I know for sure, I lived somewhere before I came to Planet Earth. I have memories of it. Several memories of it. And they re not false memories. And when I had my NDE s, and I ve had more than one, I have been shown those are correct memories and correct experiences. So that s the first thing, we have to come to an understanding of our true nature and our Divine Nature, and our Divine Origin, which is: Earth is not our original home. We came from a Spirit Home, a Spirit Realm before we ever came here. And we were organized and we were created in Spirit before we ever had a physical body. When people realize that, Eric? That opened up their hearts and their minds, hopefully, to the other possibilities that exist. For instance: that there really was, and is, a War in Heaven going on and that the War continues here on Earth. There was a War in Heaven where a third of the Hosts of Heaven were cast out with Satan when he rebelled against God and tried to take God s Glory upon himself. And so that s the second point that I think is, one of the deceptions of the adversary is to try to convince people who are on the planet, not to believe that there even is a devil.

3 Eric: It s sort of an ironic thing, that he would try to get us not to believe in him. I was on a, I was on a website a while back, looking through comments and somebody mentioned, oh, you know: this person s deceived by the devil or something, and then somebody came back with a follow up comment that said: the devil, haha, there s no such thing. Whoever invented the devil, they, you know, with horns, their only purpose was to invoke fear in people. There s no such thing as the devil. And I thought to myself, this person has been, has, has taken the information straight, you know, straight from the devil and bought it hook, line, and sinker. Julie: Right. Right. Well, because one of the lines the adversary uses is: There s no such thing as the devil, you don t even need to be afraid of me. One of the biggest lines he used that I remember premortally was, and he used so many different tactics in this War in Heaven. This, this podcast is going to trigger thousands of people. I can tell already, this podcast is going to be absolutely triggering for so many because, whether people consciously remember it or not, subconsciously, your spirit remembers, whether we acknowledge it or not. And they remember. If you are on the Earth today, you have a body and you chose God s Plan. Now, that can differ, as far as how actively you chose that Plan. If you have a body on the Earth today, you did choose His Plan, you did choose to follow Christ, at least enough to get a body and come to Earth, and, you did vote in favor of God s Plan that was foreordained and preplanned before the Earth was even created. And so, those that come to Earth and have bodies, first need to acknowledge that there is a God, that there s a God in Heaven, and that He is our Father, that we have Parents in Heaven, that we have a Heavenly Father and Mother. That we have a Father in Heaven who loves us, Who had a plan for us, Who created this Earth and that He has a Son. And I testify to you that They are two separate Beings. When I had my Near Death Experience, I saw both of Them. I do not talk about that in my book, due to the personal and sacred nature of my relationship with Them and what I experienced but I will stand boldly by that in letting you know that I know, one hundred percent, without a doubt, we have both a Father in Heaven and a Brother, His Son Jesus Christ, and also the Holy Spirit, who is another Personage of Spirit. All Three which make up the Godhead in unity, working in One in Purpose. So there are some different doctrines that are being taught. False doctrines that have been taught since the beginning of man, when Cain slew Abel. That was one of the, one of the points in history when some of those lies and deceptions started here on the Earth. They started premortally though, Eric. And I remember some specific things and the Spirit s continued to guide me and remind me that in that War in Heaven, Satan was extremely crafty, he was so crafty, he was actually quite handsome and charming, and he was a god. And he was extremely knowledgeable in the Powers and Priesthoods of our Father. And one of his biggest lines was: You don t need to follow God, you don t need to follow Christ, follow me. You don t wanna rely on Christ for the Atonement because you might not make it back home. But if you choose my plan, I can guarantee you safety, I can guarantee that you re gonna be able to do whatever you want, you re gonna have a power, and I can teach you everything I know. And, that was just one of

4 the lines that he gave. He invoked fear in people, even then, that if they did not choose God s Plan but they chose his plan, he could, quote unquote, guarantee recovery or guarantee that they could go home or guarantee safety. That is a lie, he still does it every day, in different methods. And that is one of the reasons I wanna do this podcast, Eric. Because I am so tired of the lies and the deceptions that have been going on on this Planet that we see in, in hundredfold today. They are everywhere in our society. They are masked, they are cloaked, and they are, now, now being so blunt with their affronts to us and to those that we love that they re, they ve infiltrated everything! I mean, they re in our media, they re in our children s toys, they re in our school systems, they re in our churches, they re in our congregations, they re in, I mean, everything! Eric: Mm hmm. Julie: The false traditions, and the false lies, and it is absolutely nauseating to me. Eric: So you, you, mentioned a minute ago, bodies, you re right. So, the children of Father, many of the children of Father chose to come to Earth and get a body, and those who didn t, did not receive a body and so, that presents an interesting situation where those who didn t get bodies, want bodies, and so Julie: Right. Eric:...they posses them. And so... Julie: Right. Eric:...when we hear about possession, I think a lot of us think about foaming at the mouth, gnashing the teeth, and like, convulsing and shaking on the ground. Julie: Right. Eric: Do you see it like that? Julie: I have seen situations where people are like that, but 99% of the time, that is not what it looks like when someone has been possessed. Often people have a possession or a spirit attachment, which is a little bit different, and the spirit attachment can be from disembodied spirits as well. So, often, often that occurs, and people don t even know that it s occurring. Because that spirit has been attached to them or has been in possession for so long, they think it s part of who they are, or part of something that they know. And that can happen for a

5 variety of reasons and sometimes very early on in age, and, and I, and that, that is, one of the many explanations that we have for why we have a lot of the health issues we do. Mental health or other things. It s not the only reasons, but it is sometimes a huge factor. That s also one of the other reasons I see a lot of other ills that we have in society. And that s a topic that makes people upset, it s a topic that causes fear, it's a topic that angers people because they don t feel like they have any control over what s going on with their body, or with the body of a loved one. If they were to think that energy can come in and around and through people, and there s nothing we can do about it. There is something we can do about it, and that is what this podcast is about. We're gonna help some people with that today. Eric: Do you, do you think people are possessed all around us, then? Julie: Every day, all around me, I see people possessed. And with some of the spiritual gifts that I have, I can often discern and see, with my own eyes, spirit attachments or spirit possessions. And, it doesn't just come from entities, I make clear that the entities are men that were cast out in the war in heaven, and the disembodied or unclean spirits are men and women. And, I'm not going to go into some of the, the deeper doctrines that surround that War in Heaven right now. We don't have time for that and I don't feel like this is the right audience to be able to go into that. But, I will say that it's real. It goes on. It's gone on for centuries. As long as this planet s been in existence, since the fall of Adam we have had devils upon the earth. And, and that, even the falsehoods, what happened in the Garden of Eden that have been passed down, and the false traditions regarding Mother Eve and Father Adam, are absolutely and affront to the Spirit. Although the Lord planned for that and gave us opportunity to be on the Earth to be tempted and tried by those same adversarial attacks and spirits, so that we can learn and grow and learn how to become like Him. How else do we learn spiritual warfare, other than to just go through it? Eric: Right. So, with, with all that said, what do you say about, I mean, you, you mentioned ways of getting the devil out of you? Or? How do we first recognize that maybe we have devils or unclean spirits clinging to us Julie: Right Eric:...or even within us? Julie: That s a really good question. I, that s a hard question, Eric, because not everyone has the same spiritual gifts and not, not everyone can, I mean, most people can t see them, right? They are veiled, as part of the plan here on earth. And actually, I need to make very clear, the veil is a blessing to us. It can often feel frustrating, not to be able to see things, or, but like, I ve had a

6 lot of people who have said, who have said, said things to me that are kind of insensitive where they ll say, you know: You re so lucky that you had an NDE or: You re so lucky that you have such and such gift. It comes at a cost. It comes at a cost of accountability, and that knowledge comes at a cost. And, if, if you re gonna see the light, then there s opposites in all things, you see the dark. And I see the whole spectrum. There have been times when I have been in the darkest abyss that people cannot imagine. And if you wanna talk weird stuff, you know, we re not talkin the fifth or ninth or the twelfth dimension. We re talkin thirty six dimensions or more. And that stuff freaks people out. They just think I m weird if I were to talk about that. And yet, I m gonna go public and say, there are dimensions, very dark worlds and dark dimensions that people do not even realize exist. And I think it s a tender mercy of the Lord that He veiled our eyes while we re in a Telestial state and do not have power over those dark priesthoods. To be able to veil our eyes so that we re not subjected to that knowledge and therefore held accountable, or, subjected to it where they could torture us in ways that we would not even be able to imagine. I have had attacks placed upon me, in part, because they know that I have seen the Light, they know the claims that I have made. And because of that, if I m gonna claim that I ve seen God, then it stands to reason I ve seen Satan. And he is a nasty dude, he is a nasty dude. And, and, you don t want a face to face with him just, just for fun. Eric: Hm. Julie: And there are people that get involved in some of that stuff on this world. I do not know why anybody would ever want to get involved in any of that dark energy. There are people on the planet that willfully engage in dark arts and other things. And it s entrapment. It is absolutely, I mean, but there are so many different ways that the adversary comes to people. He ll come and tell them he can teach them things, he ll tell em he has shortcuts, he ll tell em that they don t need God, that they can just use him, he can teach them powers and priesthoods. There s so many different reasons why Satan does what he does. But the ultimate goal he has is to control and destroy. Eric: Hm. Julie: And to be able to have, he seeks to have dominion, not only of the earth but of a lot of other places. And he is seeking to be able to accelerate, quote unquote, right, in his dark powers like the guy that got a hold of him, and the guy that got a hold of him, somebody got ahold of him. There are, there are places that are unspeakably dark. That I would not wish upon my worst enemy. And my heart goes out to those who are trapped in those dark places. And I have hope that, that those who are unclean spirits, and I ll clarify, unclean spirits being, or disembodied, unclean spirits are those who have lived on the earth, who have had bodies. Both men and women and for whatever reason, because there are a variety of reasons as to why

7 someone would be on this Earth and in that Spirit Realm and not move on to the Light. But they often have addictions, or they ve gone through traumas, or they ve made other choices in their life where they are lingering around, on the Earth, and they are not willing or able, or they don t know how to move on. So they hang out at places, or with people where they think they can benefit. Sometimes they hang around coffee shops, if they have a coffee addiction. They might hang around porn shops if they had a sex addiction. They might hang around someone who, has certain behaviours that they re attracted to. Every bit of energy on this Earth, the emotions that we have, they, they operate at a certain vibration. And those energies attract other energies. And so, on a scientific level, I m fascinated by this because when I see some of this going on, when I walk through an airport for instance, I ve been traveling a lot. I can see and feel those disembodied and unclean spirits on mass scale in the airports when you have so many people in small space. And they will gravitate towards certain individuals. Sometimes those unclean spirits, or what we call disembodied spirits, will gravitate towards a person of the light, because they re actually trying to find the light but they don t know how to get there, they don t know how, how to actually go to the True Source. Eric: Hm. Julie: The True Source is the Savior Jesus Christ. And, so they might hang around someone that they can feed off their energy kind of, just feed off their light energy. And they re, they re a bit of a vampire actually. And I don t mean that in the literal sense, but just symbolically speaking, they suck the energy out of people. Eric: Hm. Julie: And that s where those spirit attachments and other things come in. I don t know if that even answered your question. I kinda went on a tangent there. Eric: (laughing) Julie: Anyway. Eric: That s okay. It s interesting. I guess the question is, is how do we know if we, if we have them around us? I, I know a girl right now, a sweet girl. She s, she has suicidal thoughts at times. She has dark Julie: Mm hmm.

8 Eric: dark thoughts. She, she often goes into periods of depression. And I ve come to believe that those things come from the devil. They come from the adversary. And it, it you know, we shouldn t say the devil made me do it but I do believe that the devil, or his, those who work with him or for him, are around us, giving us thoughts like, you have no value, you should end your life... Julie: Mm hmm. Absolutely. Eric:... you don t have friends, you re worthless. So. Julie: Absolutely they do. And they will speak into your thoughts, and they will put thought energy in there. Thought energy is energy. It s all matter, it s just a different form of matter. Thoughts, words, actions, there s different degrees of matter, or different impact that that, that that matter has, and absolutely they do that. When I was on the other side of the veil, when I ve been on the other side of the veil, you know, we weren't really talking when our, with our mouths. It was very telepathic. Even the animals and the grass and the trees, it was a telepathic communication and it was as if we could read each other s minds. So, absolutely they put thought energy in there. Sometimes you might hear it as an actual voice but most of the time it is thought impression that s put into the mind. They also use different types of energy weapons. And that s, that s a whole other podcast we can do when we, you and I were talking about that earlier. We ll do a, an entire podcast on energy weapons and how they affect the mind, body, and spirit. So, thoughts and words are weapons that are used against us by the, by the darkside. And, I have, I have experienced this in every level. I have had suicide thoughts. When I, when I woke up, I was so sick and I was so depressed because I missed the other side of the veil so much and I was so sick that at, and, and I ve come to understand that I had so many demons and disembodied spirits that were working on me to try to depress me, at that point in time I knew, I knew it wasn t my own thoughts. I knew it wasn t. But I felt powerless to combat them. I felt absolutely outnumbered. I felt like I didn t have the tools or the weapons in my arsenal to be able to fight against the darkest demons that were there to destroy me. Eric: Mm. Julie: And I am here to spread Light and tell people, absolutely you do! You do have that power. We have weapons of Light that are just as good, and even better, than the weapons of darkness. And we have, you know, flaming white swords, for instance, that can cut through some of the worst mucky muck that, that is out there and it is amazing to me to see, as we shield ourselves and put on our Armor of God, how much that alone can protect us from these adversarial influences.

9 Eric: Interesting. You re, you re making a Scriptural phrase come to mind, related to spiritual warfare and weaponry and that s like: the fiery darts of the adversary, or Julie: Right. Eric:...and Julie: Those, those are real. Eric:...yeah. Yeah. Julie: Right. Eric: So that s a Scriptural, doctrinal concept. I like that. Julie: Right. And, in Ephesians, for instance, they talk about, in Ephesians in the Bible, they talk about putting on the Armor of God. Putting on the Whole Armor. Right now as I speak, anyone within the sound of my voice, by me saying: Putting on the Armor of God, I guarantee you the majority, if not all the people listening will automatically have an image of some form of Armor Eric: Mm hmm. Julie:...that is on them. They will have their favorite Armor. And that is, my understanding, the Armor they had, even premortally, that they themselves designed. It is absolutely a construct that is real, it is not imagined, and it is absolutely critical that you put on the Armor of God. You imagine it every day, you put it on, you pray for that Armor. You cover your head, you cover your hands, your fingers, your toes, your body and you ask and invoke the power of God through the Authority of Jesus Christ and you ask for that Armor to be put on. And you will find that it will not completely protect you all the time, but you will find an increase in power and protection from those who would seek to hurt you. Eric: What about those who feel like only men who hold certain religious, spiritual, or Priesthood powers, that they re the only ones who have that ability to command dark spirits. What do you think? Julie: Well that s one of the biggest lies. Satan would love it if only a handful of men on this planet could take care of the demons, because he knows there s no way they can. But the minute a man or a woman or a child realizes his divine origin, his divine potential, and his divine

10 power to know that he can cast them out, and he can invite the unclean spirits to go to the Light, the more power they have. Knowledge is power. Making sure we get knowledge from the right Source, making sure we get knowledge so we can do the right things, is absolutely the first point of defence in being able to combat the enemy. Eric: Hmm. So what do I tell this, what do I tell this friend of mine who has suicidal thoughts? I want to say to her: every time you have a dark thought, or you feel like your life has no value, you can be assured, every time, that there is a devil near you, or within you, giving you those messages. Julie: That is, that is true. It s ither a devil or an unclean spirit. And often it s both. The, the devils will utilize the unclean spirits. They will actually put them under contract. They will coerce them, they will convince them that they are worthless, that they themselves are in bondage because of actions they participated in in their own lives or because of their own unworthiness or inability to discern truth from error. They are to this day and at this moment utilizing and recruiting unclean spirits to be able to try to fight the Light. And I m here to tell you that I have never seen or heard of anyone who has experienced suicidal thoughts or any dark feelings of depression or despair without there being actual demons and unclean spirits who are involved in that. And I say that because I struggle with depression and I ve struggled with anxiety and I ve struggled with despair energy and I am no better than anyone else. I have struggled with it because that is part of the test of mortality for me. And having understood that, you know, they have their assignments. On the other side of the veil in the Heavens, things are patterned. God s pattern is we have the Godhead, of three members of the Godhead. God the Father, the Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit, who is also a personage. And then they have their Councils. They have a Council Twelve that extends out to fifteen then twenty four then thirty two then seventy two then it goes on from there. That same pattern is used here on Earth and that same pattern is used, or copied, or mimicked by Satan and the darkside. They did it premortally and they do it on the Earth. They have dark people who have made dark oaths and are Satanic worshipers here on the Earth in body, who have been enlisted in Satan s cause. And he has that same pattern that he has mimicked in the Spirit Realm. They are powerful. But what they are not, is more powerful than God. God is light years ahead. Light energy accelerates, dark energy decelerates. The two cannot coincide. Dark energy does not create, it manipulates. Light energy is where Creation comes from. So everything on the dark side is mimicked, it s, it s counterfeit, it s not real and it s not lasting and it only ends in destruction. Eric: Hm. Julie: And ultimately, Satan himself will be destroyed in the Final Battle.

11 Eric: Interesting. Julie: I don t know. Who am I to say that, right? I m just Julie Rowe. Who am I? What authority does Julie Rowe have? I ll tell you the authority I have. I am Endowed Daughter of God who speaks in behalf of Christ because I love Him, and I committed to be a member of His, Church. Church of Jesus Christ and I know without a doubt that He has given me power to combat this enemy and therefore I have an accountability to Him and to my brothers and sisters to witness, to witness and testify that we do not have to take this crap! As part of our mortal ministries, we agreed to it premortally to go through these tests and to be subjected to the adversary as we need to. But that does not mean that we just lay down and let him kick us. Eric: Mm. Julie: It means we get up and we do everything the Lord s given us to be able to combat this. And the biggest weapon the Lord s given us that we can use against Satan is love. Truth and love. That is the biggest weapon. He hates it. Hates it. Absolutely makes him, it, you wanna talk about gnashing of teeth and thrashing around? That ll make him thrash. He absolutely cannot stand it when I testify of love. And I will tell you that we can combat all day long with weapons of war being negative energy against negative energy. We will get nowhere with that. Where we get progress is when we send people to the Light. We express our love. And then we stand firm in that knowledge and in the belief and the faith and we say: listen, I don t have to take this!. And we send love, even as they persecute us. They despise it. It takes their power away. Eric: So what would, what would you tell the millions of people in the world who are depressed and having feelings of, you know, lack of self worth and they want to end their lives and life is hard and they don t have friends. What would you tell them how to pull out of this? Julie: Well, one of the basics is doing the basics which is, to pray to God the Father in the name of Jesus Christ with all of your might, mind, and strength for deliverance. Anyone, whether they re of Christian faith or otherwise, can do this. This is basic. This is basic. You will find deliverance, immediately, if in the name of Jesus Christ you expose and reveal them and you rebuke them. But rebuking comes at a different price or cost, versus if you invite unclean spirits to the Light. I am kind of, I love missionary work. And I see missionary work going on on the other side of the veil, and gathering going on on the other side of the veil. So if we could have more of our brothers and sisters join the forces of Light, why wouldn t we do that? I think the best way to do it initially is to try, try to just, I, I don t think we need to, if, if we re basics at this and just starting out, we don t need to try to discern right away which energy is which, because it s gonna be confusing for people to try to tell, is this, is this just my own thought, is this an

12 unclean/disembodied spirit, or is this, you know, a devil? I think it s much more productive to just, invite them to the Light. If you re still being bombarded or mobbed, you identify that and you basically, right from the get go, don t question if it s your own thoughts. Know from the beginning that they have people assigned as depression demons, they have suicidal demons, they have murder demons, they have divorce demons, they have despair demons, they have all kinds of, everything you can think of, they have their assignments and their whole goal is to make that happen in your life. To make, make you suffer. So if someone, if someone for instance on the dark side was assigned to make, make someone depressed, that is their assignment. And they do that. They go, and they hound you, and they hound you, and they hound you. And so, if you recognize, first of all, that there is a real enemy, that there is someone that truly is there, even though you can t see them and that they truly are trying to destroy you, your first lines of defence, if you re talking war, would be to strategize. And I think a good strategy is to first, put on that Armor, second pray to the Lord and ask for Christ to deliver you, and third, if they re not leaving you alone, you tell em to get away. Eric: I like to think that, there s a lot of power in our speech and the things we say. And I wanna believe that just simply uttering statements of happiness, joy, love, peace, or even using the, Jesus Christ s name out loud has power, against them. Do you agree? Julie: Absolutely, absolutely it does. And that s the thing. When you tell them to get away, you don t just leave that energy open. You then invite Light. You ask for additional Ministering Angels. And I appreciate that you said that Eric because there s loose ends that have to be tied up when you re, when you re getting rid of dark energy of every kind, and when you re clearing out dark energy. You don t wanna leave that void. You want to ask for additional Ministering Angels to come in. You ll have your Guardian Angels, your Ancestors, and those who come in and fill that void, if you will, with Light energy and protection. And when you do that, there are billions of spirits on the other side of the veil that are waiting to help us that would love to help us. But due to agency and due to the way that the Lord organizes His Kingdom, which is contrary to the dark side, He will not, He ll send people as needed who are assigned to us but if we want additional help and we really want to invoke the power of the Priesthood and we really want to be protected, we need to ask for that. And we need to spread Love and Light and we need to ask for Love and Light to come into our lives. Eric: That s great. Thanks for that, Julie. I feel, you just mentioned ancestors and those on the other side who are for us. Now that s a different topic and I m wondering if you d like to do a, an episode on the Heavenly Help and those on the other side who are in it for our best interest? Julie: I would love that. And I d like to end on a positive note anyway so that we re not leaving that yucky energy out there and just witness and testify. Yes. I think that would be great, Eric,

13 to do an entire podcast just on Ministering and Guardian Angels, and how wonderful they are, how we can ask for that help. How the Lord hasn t left us alone, in a desert to starve and die, He has, actually, been sending us Messengers. They intervene in our lives more than we know. And, if we had any idea how much they are going to combat for us, I think it would be astounding. If our eyes could be, unveiled, and we could actually see what s going on in these different dimensions. I have had glimpses of that and I can tell you that it s enough that in mortality, it does make ya crazy. You don t wanna see that all the time. The veil is a blessing. But, when it comes to that Light energy and those Ministering Angels, they are so real and they re so beautiful and they re so amazing. Why would we not wanna call upon them for help? Unless it s just our own pride. Eric: Right. Julie: Anyway. It s amazing. I love it. I think we should do a podcast on that. That s a great idea Eric. Eric: Sounds good. Well, Julie we, we have the Scriptures, we have a lot of resources for learning about these things but I just want to thank you for, again, sharing your gifts. Your visionary gifts and the insights you ve had on the other side of the veil are a blessing to me and to many others. Julie: Eric, thank you. I appreciate your courage in going public with this story. Just, just knowing the way things are gonna go, you re gonna get, get the onslaught for working with me and I appreciate you in doing this. And I express gratitude to everyone who s listening and can spread Light wherever you go, knowing that there is real power in Faith in Christ and real power in knowing we can combat the enemy and we can do all things through Christ. I have a witness and a testimony of this. I know with a hundred percent surety and I m gonna get people that are gonna hate me on that, and they re gonna try to argue that fact, I know what I know. And I know that God is over all. He has a Plan, and we are not alone. And with that, I wish you the best for your day today. And I hope that as you put on your Armor of God, as you look around you and you see with open eyes, moreso that you did a few minutes ago and you realize that we are physical temporal beings living in a spiritual world and not the other way around. That we are spiritual beings, living in a temporal world. We ve gotta switch that energy and make sure that people know, we were created spiritually before we ever had a body. And don t let Satan fool you one bit, he is absolutely jealous that he doesn t have a body, he s doing everything he can to try to keep you from realizing your Divine Potential because he doesn t want you to have what he will never have, which is to live at home in a glorious mansion in Heaven. And this I say in Christ s name, Amen.

14 Eric: Amen. Julie: That s it, folks. Have a great day.