On "It's Supernatural," gold teeth appearing out of thin air, bread from heaven appearing in Bibles, people being raised from the dead, see college kids whose idea of weekend fun is bring miracles to total strangers. This isn't your old-time religion. It's supernatural. Do angels exist? Are healing miracles real? Is there life after death? Can people get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth has spent twenty-five years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of, "It's Supernatural." Sid: Hello, Sid Roth here, welcome to my world where it is naturally supernatural. My guest, Darren Wilson, is a college professor. What happens when a nice evangelical Christian that is a college professor, an angel comes to him, tells him I want you to do a film on miracles, he doesn't even believe in miracles, he has never done a film before. Oh, and by the way he doesn't have any money. Let's take a look at the introduction to this film, "The Finger of God." Announcer: So what was the miracle that happened to you? Woman: God gave us gold teeth. Announcer: Hold on, did you hear that? Woman: God gave us gold teeth. Announcer: I should probably stop it here and explain a few things. You are probably wondering who these people are, well I can assure you they aren't crazy, in fact, that's Aunt Patsy. And that's Uncle Bob. Now I'm not the type of person who believes everything he hears but when your own family who you have known for your whole life and you know is on the up and up tells you that, well, this happened to them in church. Let's just say it makes you start to question a few things. So I began to wonder well, if God put gold teeth in somebody's mouth, what else was he up to. I decided to travel the world to find out. And let me tell you if you think this is weird, it is about to get a whole lot weirder. Everyone, no matter who you are or what you believe has a kind of grid of understanding. Usually this grid is based on your experience or upbringing, my grid is pretty simple, God can do miracles if he wants to, but I never saw any, so you know, they must be pretty rare. God was kind of like an invisible friend whose greatest hits happened a long time ago. Back then, people needed raw displays of power because
their theology wasn't well, as sophisticated as ours is now. There was one thing that I was pretty sure of; no matter what God did he was very, very normal and he always made perfect sense. Being new to all this miracle stuff I figured the best place to start would be the one place that I knew best, church. So I started taking my camera to churches where I heard God was doing some, well, interesting things. I was already willing to accept the whole "gold teeth" thing because of my aunt and uncle, even though I thought it was really stinking weird, but apparently God wanted to make sure I got the point. music Woman: Yes, my teeth had been in a kind of disastrous situation, the dentists are so expensive and I am a senior, and I mean I really needed some dental work, and he did it for me. Speaker: Wow, hallelujah, let me see that flashlight, he's got a flashlight, let me see your flashlight real quick, look at this, if you can see it let's see, on the bottom look at that. Announcer: It didn't take long for me to realize that gold teeth were just the tip of the iceberg. But even though so many people were getting these things, I couldn't shake that nagging question of why, why teeth, why would a God who is so normal do something so abnormal? Sid: Hello, Sid Roth here with Professor Darren Wilson, Darren where are you a professor at? Darren: Judson University just outside of Chicago. Sid: And if anyone outside of your aunt and uncle had gotten gold teeth what do you think you would have said if you were just an observer? Darren: Probably that they are either lying or misinformed. Sid: So maybe your aunt and uncle are lying and misinformed. Darren: Maybe but I highly doubt it. Sid: What are some of the stranger things that you observed as you went on your odyssey of the supernatural? Darren: Well the stuff that I experienced in the beginning, what you just saw with the gold teeth, gold dust appearing, manna appearing. Sid: Manna is like the manna they ate in the desert, forty years in the desert, it looks a little like matzo. Darren: Yeah, I got to eat that twice, that was pretty cool. And then the gemstones especially were very odd. But that is how it all started and then as I moved out from that arena and around the world I started seeing people like being literally healed in front of my eyes and to me that is when it got really, really interesting. Sid: Tell you what, you think this is interesting, watch what happens when this unassuming, not experienced in the supernatural college professor who never did a picture, a video in his life. It wasn't your goal to do
videos as far as putting them together? Darren: No, no, I mean I went to film school, but I went to film school as a writer, I never had any interest whatsoever to pick up a camera. Sid: So an angel had to tell him to do this, don't go away we'll be right back after this word. We'll be right back to, "It's Supernatural." Call now to get your copy of Darren Wilson's anointed movie on DVD, "Finger of God. This anointed movie is born out of filmmaker Darren Wilson's personal spiritual journey of two years around the world, shooting hundreds of hours of footage, documenting the supernatural power of God. You will go with him to the streets of northern California, to the mud huts of Africa, to the underground church in China, and to the Gypsies in Eastern Europe. If you are sick and tired of lifeless boring religion then you need to get this DVD. You will witness miracles from around the world, gold teeth, gold dust, gemstones materializing, manna appearing on the pages of Bibles and in the Pentagon, the blind seeing, the deaf hearing and the lame walking, a man beaten to death raised from the dead, miracles in the underground church in China and so much more. While watching this DVD people have sensed God's overwhelming presence invading their room, many have been healed, saved and delivered. Your faith will be increased. Don't miss out on getting your copy of Darren Wilson's anointed movie on DVD, "Finger of God." You will have a whole new ministry by simply showing this film to other people. We now return to, "It's Supernatural." Sid: Hello, Sid Roth here with Darren Wilson, what happens when this unassuming college professor who had never done a film in his life, he is skeptical, that is almost an understatement, of the supernatural, he is commissioned by an angel to do a film on miracles around the world. Darren I understand you were coerced by your father and your wife to go to a church in Canada, what was going on there? Darren: Yeah, well first of all I have to point out that the Lord had actually given me the idea for this movie about four or five months before and I didn't want anything to do with it. Sid: Why? Darren: Well because one, I didn't have any money, two, I didn't have any contacts, and three I didn't want to make any explicitly Christian movie, I thought it was out there, a little cheesy and a little inauthentic so to speak. I really didn't want to become a part of that.
And so I ran from it and in May of 2006 my father and my wife kind of bribed me I guess you could say to go to this church, it was a big, they were having a big conference, and so I went basically to make my wife you know, happy. And so we were there and I was very, very judgmental of what was going on, and all of the people. It was a very charismatic kind of thing and people were whooping and hollering and doing their little shimmy shakes or whatever you want to call it and just being very kind of wild and exuberant, let's put it that way. And I remember it was the last night of the conference and I was kind of standing in the back, it was right in the middle of worship and one of the speakers got up on stage and just kind of announced that an angel had just entered the room, his name was Breakthrough. And he had just come here from Nigeria or something like that. Sid: Did you believe him? Darren: No, no, no, no. And he is here, he is here with all of his angel buddies and they are just going to come and just minister to us and let's just keep worshipping the Lord. And so I am sitting in the back thinking yeah, right, okay so apparently there is an angel in the room now and this guy happens to know his name and knows where he had been for the last ten years, and so on and so forth. So I am in the back, you know trying to worship thinking all these unholy thoughts and I have got my eyes closed like every good evangelical should, and as my eyes are closed I see this thing pass in front of my eyes, you know sometimes your eyes are closed but you can tell that somebody just walked in front of you. And I opened my eyes real quick just kind of out of reflex and there was nothing there. And I closed them and the figure is right here, still standing there. And I had my eyes closed but I could see like this outline. And this was very strange to me. I never had anything like this happen to me before. And then the figure turns and he walks up to me and he is standing there, I can see the outline like he was looking at me face to face. And he is literally the most intense individual I have ever met in my life, I mean just... Sid: Are you seeing shadows or are you seeing actually a clear being? Darren: It is shadow; it is like a shadow of an outline and he was just crackling with intensity, I cannot describe, like a drill sergeant on steroids, you know really just you know fired up. And he speaks to me; it was just ringing in my ears when he spoke to me, and he says, "Are you ready?" I had no idea what he was talking about. But I know enough because I grew up in a church, I know enough that when an angel asks you a question that you just say yes. So I said yes.
And he says again, "Are you ready?" I said yes. And he says a third time, this time I could see his hands reach up for my head so I know he is like grabbing my head, I couldn't feel anything, and he screams in my face, "Are you ready?" And I finally said, "Yes, ready for what?" I don't know what he is talking about. And he stops and he stares and became so, so intense, and he says, "Make that movie." And he starts to move away. And I just thought in my head, wait, because this is probably the coolest thing that has ever happened to me, and so as soon as I think it he is back in front of me, but this time he is not intense anymore, he is literally the most gentle, loving individual that I have every encountered. Just oozing love. And at this point there is no doubt that I am speaking with Breakthrough, it is not a question. Sid: That's the name of the angel. Darren: That's the name of this angel, yeah. And so he says to me, I can see his hand kind of reaching for mine, and this time he speaks very softly and he says, "What do you want, what do you need, I will stay with you all night if you need me to." And I didn't need anything. Sid: How would you like an angel to walk up to you and say what do you want, what do you need, and I will be here as long as you need my help. I mean give me a break. So what did you do? Darren: I blubbered, I didn't need anything, I just didn't want the experience to end and I realized he wasn't leaving, and I guess he was waiting for me to release him. And so I said okay well you can go now. And then he just drifted off and the rest of my family got touched immediately after that in their own way. So I came out of it as white as a ghost, my family looks and like what happened to you and I said I gotta go be alone because something just happened to me. And so I went up to a little balcony that they had there, and I sat down and I started to pray and it was like the Lord just, he overcame me with his love. And it was the first time that I truly felt the true weight of his love for me, and I was a puddle on the floor and so I heard clearly, he said, "Stand up." So I stood up and I walked to the edge of the balcony and I looked down at all these people that a half an hour before I was judging mercilessly, and were you know still doing their shimmy shakes, still doing their hooping and hollering, but this time I saw them through the Father's eyes you know, and I saw the brokenness and I saw the hurt that is in them and I heard the Lord say very clearly, he said, "Will you make if for them?" And at that point I said yes. Sid: You are going to find out about dead people that came to life, you are going to find out about students that
on a Friday night for fun they go to the hospital, the emergency ward just to pray for the sick, and guess what, they get better, don't go away we'll be right back. We'll be right back to, "It's Supernatural." Sid Roth has found the key to worldwide revival This is God's time to reach the Jewish people with his love. Messiah Jesus has torn down the wall dividing Jew and Gentile, the two together form one new man to reach the world. God's method to reach the Jewish people is through signs and wonders. This is why our website, SidRoth.org is jam-packed with tools to equip you to move in signs and wonders, understand Israel and the Jewish roots of the church. Log on to: We now return to, "It's Supernatural." Sid: Hello, Sid Roth here with Darren Wilson, Darren, you're commissioned by this angel, God's been speaking to you to do this film on miracles around the world, how much money did you have for your budget? Darren: I started with nothing. Sid: So did you do a big fundraising project? Darren: Sort of, I made a deal with the Lord in the very beginning, because I didn't want to make it, and I made a deal with God, I said I will make this movie for you but I don't want to have to ask anybody for money, because I hate asking people for money and so I said if you can do that, if you can give me the money I'll go make it. And I never asked for a dime and he gave me $25,000 dollars. Sid: Where did this trip take you? Darren: It took me all over the United States, into Canada; we went to Africa and Mozambique, Bulgaria, Turkey, France Switzerland, all over the place. Sid: Never in a million years did you think you would be putting a video together on the supernatural. Tell me a bit about that dead man; what was his name; Frances? Darren: Frances, yeah. Sid: Tell me about dead Frances. Darren: Well I had heard of Frances, just because when I was scheduled to go to Mozambique to visit with Heidi and Roland Baker, I heard that there was this guy who has this incredible story, even for them. And so I asked well could I talk to him, and so he came to the airport at Johannesburg during my layover, and that's when I heard his full story, which was just mind-boggling. What had happened is just about two years before they were having a church service, and he was outside kind of ushering people in and he was going to go lock up the gate and these four men came up to him and they were all
drunk and he, you know, was trying to figure out what they wanted and they started to beat on him, to beat him up, they had baseball bats, and he said what are you doing? And they said we are going to kill you today, today is your last day, and so they beat him to death with baseball bats, they stabbed him 27 times. Sid: So he was dead dead. Darren: Dead as a doornail. So they took him to the hospital; hospital pronounced him dead, the whole church comes together and they don't know what else to do so they are just praying for him. And he was killed at around eleven o'clock at night, around twelve-fifteen; twelve-thirty in the morning he came back to life. But when he came back to life he was, he was a total mess, I mean beaten by baseball bats and stabbed 27 times, his face was all swollen, couldn't speak, and right before they put him out for the night, they gave him morphine, right before they put him out for the night he just was able to croak out, whisper "forgive them," referring to the people who did this to him and then like he was out. And this got back to the church and that morning the police in South Africa caught one of these guys, and they were very proud of themselves because they don't normally catch these guys, and so they went to the church, and they called the church and said, "Hey we caught one of the men who beat your friend to death, come down and sign some papers, press charges and we will get them processed. The church knew that Frances had forgiven them so they said no, we are not going to press charges, we want to forgive them. And the police were a little upset that is not really the best way to handle crime in South Africa. And so he said, "No you really need to come down. And the church with one voice said, "Absolutely not, we forgive him." And the moment they forgave him as a body Frances was instantly healed in the hospital. He was, all of his bruises, all of his cuts, everything was gone immediately. Sid: Now you actually met Frances and videoed him? Darren: Yes, he still has the bloody shirt with 27 knife wounds in it. Sid: Now what did this do for your grid of the supernatural? Darren: It just took it to a whole new level. I mean you hear, it is one thing to hear stories, it is another thing to look across into the eyes of someone who has had an experience like this and you know that this person isn't lying to you. Sid: Tell me about the college students in California that for fun they go to the emergency room of the hospital. Is that true? Darren: Yeah, yeah. In Redding, California thee is a church out there and they have a school, I guess they call it a School of Ministry, and basically kids go there, they are probably between the age
of eighteen and twenty-five mostly, and they go to just learn how to operate in the supernatural, and learn how to just, they hit the streets and they go look for anybody they can to pray for, and one of the things they will do is they go to the ER on Friday Nights for fun and they will look for somebody who is sick and they will pray for them before the doctor sees them and get them healed. Sid: Now what I am wondering, I know the effect that your film had on me, and I am pretty excited to make this available to you, but what I want to find out from Darren is, when he plays this for his own evangelical church that were like him, he believes God can do miracles, but they have never seen any, what effect did this have on them? Darren: Well it had the same effect that it is having on literally every public showing that I have heard of, it has the same effect, God shows up in a major, major way. Sid: Describe what happens. Darren: Okay what happens, people are being healed, one while watching the movie, but most of the healings and the things that are taking place are taking place after the movie is over and the faith level is kind of at a high pitch. And so the people will just turn toward each other and start to pray for one another. And so we have had healings, we have had salvations, we have had people being set free from depression, from oppression, addictions it is just absolutely... Sid: You know the footage that you had from this underground church in China; I have never seen such glory of God on their faces. What effect did it have on you when you went through that footage? Darren: Well yeah, that is the one place I didn't go to get the footage, a missionary named Dennis Balkam gave me that footage, he had been a missionary in China for forty years, and when I took a look at it, it was, I knew I was sitting on something that was absolutely incredible, I mean it is literally the rarest footage on the planet. It's culled from years and years of traveling around deep into the heart of that underground church and what it did to me, it showed me for the first time what real, I mean heartfelt genuine faith really looks like and it brought me to tears and it, what I hear is it is everybody's favorite part of the movie, because when they see that and they see what these people are going through and how they react to it; it is absolutely incredible. Sid: You know what, I think next week I am going to show a portion of that because it is the real thing, I mean Darren can you put it in any other words than it is seeing the real thing, like what happens when a human being sells out a hundred percent and is filled with the presence of God. Are they having many miracles there? Darren: It is an everyday common occurrence, it is one of the things that is causing the great kind of groundswell of conversions is the miracles that are preceding the preaching. Sid: Now when you went to Mozambique are many
people that are dead raised from the dead there? Darren: Yeah the ministry that I went with was Iris Ministries and they have had over eighty people raised from the dead in the last few years. Sid: And by the way, I know it as a fact, that if someone is dead just a few minutes or something, they don't even count them, they have certain strict requirements. Everything you have ever read in the Bible, I can't say enough good things about this video, I wish that every young person, every older person in the world would see this video. Darren, one funny thing that happened real quick. Darren: One funny thing that happened? Sid: Yeah, in filming it? Darren: Funny thing that happened. Sid: I can tell you a funny thing that happened, when you came to interview me on this video and I had words of knowledge and what thoughts went inside of your mind? Darren: Yeah I was interviewing you and we were in this little office space and all of a sudden, and this was a good solid year before I am even going to start editing the movie and so you start getting these words of knowledge for people who are going to be watching this as yet unmade movie. Sid: That are going to be physically healed. Darren: Physically healed, and it was, I remember the hair standing up in the back on my head when you did it because it was a powerful, powerful moment but at the same time I am like, well I guess I am going to finish this movie and I guess people are going to watch it because you know this was happening, I knew it was very real. And since then, it was actually the first word I think you had was for headaches and that was the first miracle that happened when I showed it. Sid: But I want a miracle to happen with you right now, I want you to know God, I don't care about your religion, I care about you knowing God and there is no other name given unto man in which we can be cleansed of our sin and righteous, to have intimacy with God, yell the name Jesus I want to know you, I want to experience your Kingdom now on this earth, now. Call now to get your copy of Darren Wilson's anointed movie on DVD, "Finger of God. This anointed movie is born out of filmmaker Darren Wilson's personal spiritual journey of two years around the world, shooting hundreds of hours of footage, documenting the supernatural power of God. You will go with him to the streets of northern California, to the mud huts of Africa, to the underground church in China, and to the Gypsies in Eastern Europe. If you are sick and tired of lifeless boring religion then you need to get this DVD. You will witness miracles from around the world, gold teeth, gold dust, gemstones materializing, manna appearing on the pages of Bibles and in the Pentagon,
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