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1 Is there a supernatural dimension, a world beyond the one we know? Is there life after death? Do angels exist? Can our dreams contain messages from Heaven? Can we tap into ancient secrets of the supernatural? Are healing miracles real? Sid Roth has spent over 35 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of It s Supernatural. SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it's naturally supernatural. Does God the Creator of the Universe control our destiny? We know that God has good plans for our future. We know this. But does he control our destiny? My guest says no. God has a part to play, but we have a part to play and he wants to show you what your part is for the good destiny God has planned for your life. Can I have him share? You know, it must be wonderful to have been raised in a home that was naturally supernatural. What was that like? TIM: It was awesome. I am so blessed. My dad was an evangelist, but he also pastored churches and it was not unusual because of the emphasis he had on healing to have a lot of the healing evangelists. We had T.L. Osborn, Oral Roberts come to our house when I was a kid. Of course, I didn't know, they were just ministers. SID: With that heritage you were shocked one day by God. You're speaking in a little tiny church and God tells you to give a message that you know, because you have that great heritage, the people couldn't relate to. TIM: Oh no. He began to download of information about governing, authority and power, and releasing. And the pastor that asked me to come to share, he was having a special event and that wasn't what it was about. So I decided I would inform the Lord about it and, "Lord, that's not what they need to hear and they won't understand." And he said, "They'll understand what I help them to understand and you just declare what I say." He said, "I'll help them to understand." And I began to see that no matter what I was going to share, Holy Spirit was going to communicate, but he was asking me. In fact, he said to me, "I need you to sow this into the region because it's been requested of my people and I want to grow it there." And I'm like, can you do that? SID: You are a natural teacher and you know what people can receive and how to do it. TIM: Sure. SID: But what I'm hearing is God says I just need you to show up. Your telling him doesn't mean a thing. I'm going to make it happen. TIM: I don't know how many times I've preached a sermon, people come up and say, "That's exactly what I needed to hear." And that's exactly what I didn't say. I wasn't talking about that because Holy Spirit knows how to communicate. And today even as we're communicating he will be giving a message to the people that are hearing it. SID: And the whole concept, in fact, the whole title of messages you've been giving for a long time is planting the heavens. Where did you get this from?

2 TIM: Well Isaiah 51 and Verse 16, God says, "I will give you my words that you may plant the heavens and lay the foundations of the earth." And I began to see that's what God did in the beginning. He planted the heavens with his words and he declared it eight times in the first chapter of Genesis that words are like seeds. The seeds are in what he created. And I began to see how God through his Word planted. He planted the sun, the moon and the stars. He planted the heavens. In other words, the condition of the heavens and the condition of the earth was dependent upon a Word from God. Holy Spirit hovered until he heard the Word from God. Darkness did not dispel until there was a Word from God. The disorder, it was continuously chaotic until there was a Word of God. And God began to show me that if you will decree my Word darkness can leave regions. Darkness can leave light. And you can plant my Word into a situation and it will grow to fullness. You can sow God's Word into your, plant it into your children, into your vocation and it will cause it come into order. It will produce a creative force that brings it into being. SID: Is the opposite of that also true? You can plant what you see with your eyes, the negative, and it will also grow? TIM: Jesus said, "By your words you are justified. By your words you are condemned." You sentence yourself to live the life that you speak. So if you speak negative words you're sentencing yourself. In effect, you're cursing your life. SID: How does this play out in your own family? Tell me about how it played out with your daughter. TIM: My daughter leads our praise and worship. And she had one child naturally, a little girl, and then she became pregnant again, but she miscarried. And then she became pregnant again and miscarried. Then she miscarried again, five miscarriages. We were doing a major conference at our church and Rachel leads our praise and worship, and she found out the week of the conference that she was pregnant again. And of course fear comes. This is, she's had five miscarriages, and she told her husband that she was pregnant, and she told me and my wife. And she came to do the conference, frankly, troubled. One of the ladies at the conference came up and said, "I have a word for your daughter. Could you, would it be okay?" She knew nothing. She said, "The Lord says there is life in you and you will dance the dance of life." That prophetic word sowed, planted inside of her, and faith came alive, and she began to decree over herself every day. My mind will not cast its fruit before its time. I'm not going to miscarriage. The fruit of the womb is my reward. God's Word says that life is abundant in me. And of course the rest of us were declaring this baby is going to be healthy, it's going to go to full term. And we began to decree the Word of the Lord. And of course, nine months later, according to the Word of the Lord, a very healthy little boy was born. She was able to dance the dance of life. SID: So when we come back I want to find out about the vision you had how angels of commotion are now becoming angels of alignment getting people in place for the greatest move of God's spirit in history. TIM: Yes.

3 SID: Be right back. We'll be right back to It's Supernatural. [commercial] We now return to It's Supernatural SID: Okay. Now I am ready and you are ready for those angels of commotion to be replaced with angels of alignment. We're getting us in the right place, getting our family in the right place, getting our job in the right place, our home in the right place. Tell me about the vision. TIM: I had a vision at the start of the year of angels holding those old plumb lines the carpenters would use to align things properly. And I had a vision of hundreds of angels holding plumb lines over New Testament churches all around the world. And I said, "Holy Spirit, what are you saying?" And he said, "The angels of commotion have now become angels of alignment and they are now aligning the church, the true church for the greatest move of God in all of history." SID: And I have to ask you, this begs the question and it's an important question because I trust you, "What do you see based on what God has shown you is coming?" TIM: The greatest days in church history are not in our past. They are in our present and in our future. The greatest exodus in world history would not be the million souls that were brought out of Egypt, it would be the billion souls that he now brings out of the kingdom of darkness into the marvelous Kingdom of God. That's where we're at, the greatest harvest in world history. SID: Tim, do you see hope for all of these college students that go in as Christians to a university and leave as the opposite, actually champions for the opposite of what the Bible says, do you see hope for that? TIM: I do see hope and I believe that that is a part of this third great awakening because Holy Spirit, he spoke to me, in fact, it was a very bold statement, and he said, "They will not be the lost generation. They will be a radical millennial generation for me." And he spoke to me about the three phases of the harvest in this awakening. The first phase would be prodigals that he is bringing home. In fact, Holy Spirit spoke to me one afternoon and he said, "The greatest prophets that are going to be ministering in this third great awakening that is released right now, the greatest prophets are right now prodigals. Some of the greatest pastors are right now prodigals." But Holy Spirit is bringing them in and the angels are working to help that. SID: What you were teaching earlier about the angels of alignment, how important it is for say a mother or a father, or a grandparent right now that has these prodigals to have the words in aligned with what God wants. TIM: Absolutely. It's vital that they declare what God says for their offspring or in some cases authority language needs to be used to bind what the adversary is blinding them with. In other words, just being practical, if you would have a prodigal son or daughter, something like this, I

4 bind the work of the adversary against this child. He will no longer blind my son or daughter. Joel's prophecy is coming to pass. They're going to prophesy. They're going to dream God's dream. They're going to preach the Word of God. They're going to see visions from God and they're going to be a generation that is going to move in the power of the Holy Spirit, and my son and my daughter is going to be one of them. Declare the Word of the Lord. SID: And you know what, with an attitude. TIM: With an attitude. SID: People have an attitude on politics. People have an attitude on sports. Let's get an attitude against the devil. TIM: Absolutely. In fact, two weeks ago, saying it like that, you want an attitude, the Holy Spirit said, "I came to the early church and I'm going to come again, only I'm going to come with more of the angel armies this time." And he brought that to mind of the sound from Heaven, and he said, it sounded, the scripture in Ezekiel said it sounded like a rumbling sound. And I heard the Holy Spirit say this: "It's time for my New Testament church and my remnant to rumble. It's time to rumble in the power of the Kingdom of God." We're not those that are going to back down and play games. We're those that ought to raise in the power of the Holy Spirit. It's time the world sees a church that rumbles under the power of the Holy Spirit again. I think we ought to move like a freight train. SID: I'll tell you what, you're getting me excited. TIM: Come on. SID: There is such a creative power that most of us, and I say us, I'm part of you, that most of us are missing. And when we come back I want you to talk about that creative power of our words that there is a miracle in our mouth. Be right back. TIM: Amen. We'll be right back to It's Supernatural. [commercial] We now return to It's Supernatural SID: We just don't understand how [we] can literally create with words. You teach on one of my favorite scriptures, Romans 4:17. Explain TIM: "The God kind of faith calls those things that be not as though they were." And Paul was talking there about our father of faith, Abraham. For 25 years, Abraham walked with the promise that he would be the father of many nations, have a son. Then God came to him when he was 99 and he said this to him: "In about a year you are going to have a son." And of course Abraham

5 laughed and Sarah is in the tent, and she laughed. But something happened in that 99th year and he began to decree or to practice the God kind of faith. And the God kind of faith says, "Calleth things that be not as though they were." SID: But wait. I hear people say isn't that lying? TIM: No because God said, "New things I declare," Isaiah 42:9, "before they spring forth, I tell you of them." If you want to see them you got to decree them. The decree comes first. SID: I mean, we're literally commanded, "Call those things that be not that the devil has taken away from you as if they are." TIM: Absolutely. SID: With an attitude. TIM: With an attitude. "Calleth there" is the Greek word kaleo and it means to bid or to summons it to you and those things that were is "usah", means to come here. You put them together, it means "come here and come here now" and then it's repeated. So the God kind of faith says come here and come here now. And this old man begins to decree come here. Think of this. Here's an old 99-year-old man with a promise and he goes outside of his tent at night, and he literally beings to say SID: Yeah, but that is an outrageous promise though. TIM: come here, Isaac. Come here, son. Come to us. Come here. Come here. And those words that he kept planting, it did something in him. It rejuvenated him. It rejuvenated Sarah, who was 89 years old, and he just kept saying, "Come here, come here now, come here, promise of God, come here, come to me." And of course, we know that in a year's time, miraculously, supernaturally a son was born. SID: You teach principles of planting the heavens on Earth. And one of your principles you just said: Come. Give me another example of how we call something to come to us. TIM: It can be in any promise that God makes to us. For example, healing, come here, healing. By the stripes of Jesus I am healed. Come to me. Begin to manifest in me. Cancer, leave my body. Come here healing power of God. Come here financial need. You need money? Come here and manifest in my life. Come to me. Come to my house, salvation, power of God. Come to me peace of mind. Any promise of God, bid it come to you. Decree that it's yours. Plant the atmosphere around you and lay the foundations around you for it, for God to bring it to pass, for it to be creative. That's what God did in the beginning. If God, Sid, if God created the heavens and the earth, and we know that he did, how hard would it be for him to create what you need? How hard would it be for God to create what you need? He can do it. He knows how. SID: You teach another thing that I like.

6 TIM: Okay. SID: Don't give up. TIM: Never. SID: Explain. TIM: If you plant a seed, David said it this way, "I speak with ruling authority as a king and I never negate a ruling." Wow. God says no maybes. No maybes. Decree and use your authority. Don't back down. You plant that seed, you just water it and you keep saying come here, come here. I went through a time about two years ago when I was hope deferred over a situation, and I read in Revelation where the Angel of the Lord said, "No more delay." And I just kept saying, "No more delay. No more delay." This promise is coming to me. Come to me, promise of God. Come and come now. SID: What is our part to play in our destiny? TIM: It's a decree a thing, as Job said, decree a thing that it's established. Our responsibility is to say what God says. If we will align our self that way then the DNA that is in the seed of that word, because every word produces after its kind, whatever you declare it's going to produce it. Well don't back off of that. Never back off. It has nothing to do with feelings. We know that. I don't always feel like it, but after I say it a few times I start feeling it, but a boldness rises out of it. SID: Do you know what comes out of your mouth is revelation after revelation, after revelation. I want you to pray the way we should pray at home over the people right now. Would you do that? TIM: Absolutely. Pray this way: Father God, in Jesus' name I am decreeing health and healing is coming into my house. I decree that my sons and daughters are going to receive Christ Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior. The opposition that is coming against my household financially, I bind it in the name of Jesus and I decree that prosperity is coming. Finances are coming. Prosperity is coming in. Promotion is coming through job situations. I'm getting a better job. My husband is getting a better job. My kids are getting a better job and the decrees of the scripture, the promises that I've been believing for and even prophetic promises that I've received, I'm planting them. I believe every word that you said to me is coming to pass in my life. Manifest and grow in me. Grow in my household. My house is a house that is blessed. I am blessed. I am free. I am delivered in every area of my life's spirit, soul and body. SID: And you know what, I decree that angels of alignment have been sent to your home because your words are causing them to put everything in God's order in place. So be it! TIM: So be it! We'll be right back to It's Supernatural.

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