SID: My guests have been taught ancient secrets to have God answer your prayers every time.

1 SID: My guests have been taught ancient secrets to have God answer your prayers every time. Can ancient secrets of the supernatural be rediscovered? Do angels exist? Is there life after death? Are healing miracles real? Can you get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth has spent 30 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of It s Supernatural. SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it s naturally supernatural. I can just taste the rarified air of Heaven. Most people I know, they believe in God. They believe that God answers prayers, but they prayed so many times and it appeared as though the heavens were crass and they somehow did not get through to God, and their faith level is all the way down here, and they ask other people to pray for them. There s something wrong with that picture. I m so excited about guests, Brenda and Hank Kunneman, because they ve got revelation for you. God s gonna answer your prayer of, God, why can t I get through to you? It s going to be answered. And if you have young children, teenagers that are sick, there is a special presence of God. They re gonna be healed. And if they re not with you for some reason just take a piece of paper, write their name, and if they re with you get them out immediately. Well Hank, you had this birth. You had a problem. Is God going to answer your prayers? Tell me about that. HANK: Well it was a problem. It was such a problem, Sid, that I would fall asleep in prayer. This lasted like six months. I had what I call spiritual attention deficit disorder. I d go to pray and everything would distract me. I felt like God was a million miles away, and I said, Lord, have I sinned? Have I done something wrong? So I finally decided to do the spiritual thing. SID: What s that? HANK: To go on a three-day fast. And I m talking about not just fast Snicker bars or Mars bars or something. I m talking about I really was so hungry. I said, I m gonna go out and I m gonna do a water fast. But then I snuck something. I snuck a bag of snacks because the Lord hadn t been talking to me. BRENDA: Just in case. HANK: Just in case for six months, yeah. The fact is I m not going hungry. And so I went out for three days-- SID: Fasting with snacks. HANK: Yeah. They were my back up survival kit. BRENDA: If God doesn t come immediately. HANK: If God doesn t show up. And I m sure there s people that feel that way, you know, like where is God? But I decided, you know, I m gonna take three days and I m gonna go and I m gonna fast, and I m gonna get a hold of this God. I m gonna refuse to leave this God alone. And I read in the Bible where Moses didn t leave Him alone. Jacob didn t leave Him alone. And the

2 names go on and on. I said, I am gonna get a hold of God. So again, I brought my snack survival kit. And what happened is I set everything up in my cabin and I walked out in the woods to go pray trying to get a hold of God. Now keep in mind, I d been falling asleep. I would wake up praying for a fast food restaurant, and that s why they ve sold over a billion hamburgers, the one I ve been praying for. BRENDA: Cause we interceded one. HANK: Cause I interceded and I would find the name of that restaurant. I mean, crazy stuff like that. So I was walking through the forest, the woods, and I looked and off in the distance in this field were deer. And I was so determined. And I said, God, you know, and I tried to quote the scripture that talks about, As the deer panteth for the water so my soul longs after you. I was trying to get spiritual with God. So these dear were out there and I said, Lord, if you re even listening to me make those deer come to me. Do you know what happened, Sid? I got to tell you. You re not even gonna believe this. The deer ran the opposite direction. And I said, That s it. I must have done something wrong. BRENDA: You didn t get your prayers answered. HANK: And I said, what did I do wrong? And I was so frustrated, and I don t encourage anyone to do this. I shook my fist to the Lord and I said, God, that s it. And then I do what a lot of times we do when we re really frustrated at God. We try to tell Him how to do His job. I said, Well if I was you, Father, if I was God and somebody was out here trying to seek your face I would at least have answered and I would have brought those deer to him. And I began to really be a real brat. So I decided I had enough and sat down and I fell asleep. Forty-five minutes later I heard a noise and I could not believe what I saw. I mean, very close to me, a few feet a way were the very same deer that looked like they went the opposite direction. God was listening and He brought those deer right next to me. Immediately, I went back into my prayer cabin and I started to grab the door and I walked in the door, because I was gonna repent, because I mean, I was in big trouble after what I said I knew. But the Lord is so merciful. He s such a good Father. I mean, he knows when we re brats. And so as soon as I opened the door a power, the power of God Himself grabbed a hold of me and threw me across the room, and I was literally overcome by the spirit of God s presence. And He said to me, I ve taught you something that will never be taken from you. It s spiritual pursuit. See sometimes people only pray when everything s good. BRENDA: Right. That s right. HANK: Jesus prayed in three primary places: the desert, the wilderness, okay. BRENDA: That s right. HANK: What was the other one. Desert, wilderness. BRENDA: The mountaintop. HANK: Mountaintop.

3 BRENDA: That s when things are going good. The mountaintop. HANK: I like having her here today, Sid. She helps me out. But anyway, on the mountaintop, you know, where everything is good. We don t praying in the valley when things are low. We don t like praying when things are hot. And so I learned something. I learned how to get a hold of God and not to give up. That s why we have supernatural experiences. Is we ve had to press through some pretty hard things. BRENDA: That s kind of how we started our ministry. I think it s just many hours of pacing the floor when it looked like it was not gonna go right, and I think that s the big hurdle that many people have to overcome in their pursuit of God, is you re not always gonna feel like it. It s not always gonna seem like anything is happening. It s not always gonna feel like the prayers are working. But that is where you learn to press into God anyway, because when you do that s when you break through. And of course, I think of the woman of the issue of blood. She had to break through the crowd and press to where Jesus was. And when she did that she got her answer. And I think that s something in the early years of our ministry. Sid, we are walking in supernatural things today. And I really want the audience to hear this part. We are walking in supernatural things today that we pace the floor and prayed out to God. SID: Give me an example. BRENDA: Well 20 years ago-- HANK: That list that we had. We had a list. You need to talk about this. BRENDA: We had this list. We said, God, we need you to do X amount of things in the ministry. We were praying for big things. They re not so big now, but they were huge then. And we just called out to God, put this list on our fridge, had scriptures, prayed them out, slapped that fridge everyday. Every time we got, we figure put it on the fridge. Every time we got to get something to eat you got to remember what you pray before the Lord. And we eventually moved out of that house. And several moves later the list got put in a box. And you know, you always have those boxes that don t get unpacked at the next house. So probably, I think it was last summer. Was it last summer? HANK: About two summers ago because we got into a big argument, because it was all my stuff that she wanted to go through. BRENDA: We were cleaning out boxes and I said we got to get through this stuff. HANK: We were on vacation. You re not supposed to do work when you re on vacation. BRENDA: We took some time off and we cleaned out these boxes. And I pulled out this piece of paper and, Sid, I ll bet you can t guess what that was. It was the list. SID: Of course. How many had gotten an answer?

4 BRENDA: As God as my witness, that, every single thing on that list was answered and then some. And you know what? It was bigger than we even put on the list. And I realized at that time that we don t even believe God for enough. We don t even ask Him for big enough. SID: And here s the deal. Brenda and Hank are not God s favorites. The Messiah is God s favorite and the Messiah is in them. And guess what? Brain storm. The Messiah is in you or you d better say a prayer real quick. Be right back after this word. We ll be right back to It s Supernatural. *** We now return to It s Supernatural. SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Brenda and Hank Kunneman. And Hank and Brenda, you have walked through it. I think as that young boy before you even knew God you heard His voice. How old were you and what did he say to you? HANK: I was five years old on the island of Guam when God s voice came to me the first time. I wasn t even a Christian. See, God s reaching out to people even before they even know it. BRENDA: That s right. HANK: And all they have to do is reach back. And He told me, He started talking about living a life. And He talked in elementary terms, living a life that was right, doing what was good. And He showed me and talked to me about His creation, and He created these things for my enjoyment. But I m gonna tell you. That is the key because it developed something in me and that s the key for you watching, too, is a hunger for God. You know, reach for Him. That s the key. Reach for Him. Sometimes, you know, you re waiting for God to hit you over the head. And, you know, we have to reach towards Him. And one of the things that happened one time, and I didn t really realize how much God was reaching towards us and how much God really wants to be with us, how much he really loves us, and He longs to be with us. Here s what happened. I was in my prayer room. And of course, we do what everybody does now. Sometimes being a preacher you put God on your time. You know, you have this much amount of time in my schedule. And so I had one hour. God, you re gonna get one hour of my time. And I was ready. I was done. I did my religious duty. I spent one hour with God. And so I was getting ready to leave. And soon as I grabbed the door handle of my room I heard the most incredible voice. God still speaks today, Sid. And God said these words to me. He said, Please! And I stopped. I thought, who is saying please to me? And I heard, Please don t leave, Sid. SID: God said to you? HANK: Yes, to me. The Creator of the universe. SID: Hank Kunneman, said to you? There s something about you that I need to be in your presence. He needs to be in your presence? He needs to be with you? He needs to be with you.

5 Whether you ve heard that or not, this is what the Bible says, the truth book. God is not irrespective of persons. If He needs Hank and Brenda he needs you. BRENDA: That s right. HANK: You know, and I ll tell you how important this is. Brenda and I, we spend a lot of time together with the Lord, but we reach back. And one day, it will come in handy, because when you spend time with God and you take that time to be with Him and hunger is so important. Sid, there s times as a preacher I have sat with God and I said, Lord, I don t feel your presence. I am bored. I don t like this time. I would rather do something else. But Lord, I m hungry and I want you and I want your presence. And it doesn t sometimes seem like anything is happening at the moment. SID: But you know what? Someone can be hungry and they don t see anything happen and then they go and watch the ball game. BRENDA: Right, right. HANK: Yes. Right. Well but one thing that Jesus had is his private prayer life produced public power. And that s where people miss it. They don t have any public power or any supernatural things because they re not spending time with God. And I want to tell you. We had a thing happen one time. BRENDA: Well, you know, I just feel this, too, Sid. I believe as we re talking, this came right up in my heart by the Lord, is God is speaking even as we re sitting here. But there are people dealing with loneliness. And I just feel like there s somebody out there that you re dealing with loneliness and you re feeling like, man, does anybody care? And as we re talking you re thinking, Well God, do you care? And I just want to encourage you. This is your moment to be with God. He does care. You don t have to be lonely in your life. And so I just want to encourage you. Reach to God like you heard Hank say and like Sid was saying, reach to God because your lonely moments are going to be fulfilled in Him as He s reaching to you. And so I just feel I d like to encourage somebody with that by the spirit. HANK: You know one time, let me tell you what God does. When you spend time with him there s a presence that He will put on your life. I remember years ago I was a youth minister and I was out playing what we call Capture the Flag, and it was kind of like a hide and seek type game. And all of a sudden I heard a noise and I didn t hear it in the natural. I heard it in the spirit, but I thought it was in the natural. And it was a loud sounding noise of music, Sid. And all of a sudden I grabbed the youth leaders and I said, Get all the kids right now. And it was pretty late at night. It was almost about midnight. I said, Get all the kids quickly. Get them inside of the church. And they said, Why? Why? I said, I don t know. Something. And I hear this noise. Get them in now. And as soon as I said that we started the process of moving all of these kids. And there was quite a few of this youth group. Well there was an off-duty police officer there and he said, Is everything okay? And I said, I don t know. There s something wrong. All of a sudden within 15 minutes later all of these cars come flying into the church parking lot. And it was a bunch of gangs and they had their music going, and it was a really loud sounding bass

6 sound that the older I get, the less tolerant I am of it. But anyway, they got out of their cars and started running towards us. And all of the kids got inside of the building. But me and this offduty police officer were the only two, and he went to go get his gun. I m standing there now in the middle of all of these--they started surrounding me with clubs and chains, and stuff. And I m surrounded by gangs And if it wasn t for a life of not leaving God alone and crying out for him I would have never had the supernatural presence that is on my life, whether I speak to a president or the lowliest person or surrounded by gangs. And all of a sudden this one gang leader came out and he walked up to me, and he said something I did not understand, and he was reaching in his coat to pull out what was an apparent weapon. Sid, at that moment, you know, you have a choice. You can be like Rocky Balboa. You know, Rocky, yo. I wasn t Rocky. I wasn t, Hey, how do you do? I felt like Don Knotts. I couldn t even say anything. I was so scared. I know that doesn t sound spiritual for those that are watching. You know, I didn t seem spiritual. But I remember I pointed my finger and I didn t say anything. All of a sudden their eyes got big, and there must have over a hundred of these gangs. I don t know what they saw, started running in absolute fear. At that time they got in their cars and went to get away, and as they were so scared what they saw they were hitting each other creating car accidents trying to get out. And this other police officer came by and he said, What is going on here? He held up his badge because he was in the city that we were in. And he said, I ve never seen them like this. Why are they running? I believe they saw an angel. I believe they saw angels. I believe God came literally to protect me because of my relationship of not leaving God alone. SID: I sure hope that Brenda and Hank Kunneman are provoking to jealousy because everything they have, not only is it available to you, God wants it more for you than you want it for yourself. I want to hear some of this supernatural, I mean, God supernaturally protected you. How would you like to walk in supernatural protection? Don t go away. And by the way, if you have a young child that s sick, we re gonna pray for them when we come back. We ll be right back to It s Supernatural. *** We now return to It s Supernatural. SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Brenda and Hank Kunneman. And because they re friends of God, because they pursue God and because God just wants to be in their presence, He supernaturally protects them. He supernaturally heals them. He supernaturally provides. We re coming to a time in history in which how would you like to be able to count on God supernaturally protecting you? Hank, give me another story. HANK: I was driving in my car and the Lord said, Stop at that fast food restaurant. I thought it was meant to eat. I thought the Lord was endorsing it. He said, Go in and find the biggest man and tell him about Jesus. Well you know what I did, Sid? The opposite. I went in and I looked for the smallest guy and I couldn t find him. I turned around and went outside and looked, and there was this huge biker, you know, motorcycle biker. Obviously big guy. Tattooed, everything. The Lord said, Him. I said, God, him? What did I ever do? I m not gonna talk to this guy. And the Lord said, Talk to him. And so I went up to him and I started sharing with him. And he said, I m gonna kill you. He was so mad. And he started to chase after me. And I was pretty

7 scared. You know, wasn t bold. I literally started walking away from him. I didn t stand there, you know, and want to fight him. I started walking away. He literally picked me up and went to throw me back in a window. And the most incredible thing happened. People there witnessed it. As he picked me up to throw me into the window, I bounced off the window. I should have gone through. If that wasn t enough, as soon as I looked and around, and he looked around because he couldn t believe that I didn t go through the window, he proceeded to try to punch me three times. But Sid, because of my life of not leaving God alone the Lord protected me. And three times he missed my face. And he was so angry that he started manifesting even more demonically. And his other bikers had to hold him back. Now here s a guy three times he tried to punch me. He couldn t hit me. They had to hold him back. But after that I rebuked the devil and I commanded the devil that was in the man to come out of him. And he fell to the ground and I was able to pray deliverance over this young man. In other words, what I mean by deliverance, commanding evil presence to leave his life. And after that he was completely different, and I was able to share Jesus with him all because my time of prayer beforehand. BRENDA: That s really the key. SID: How about that young child. BRENDA: Well you know, we had a situation that happened in our church. This was, what, two or three years. And it was in the summertime. And something that we do, and I just want to say we spend a lot of time in prayer together. But we encourage our church to be people that don t leave God alone. We really promote that in the church. And so there was a family in the church and their child had been playing in a window, was 12 feet up. So the window was 12 feet from above their driveway. The little child suddenly went through the screen, fell out of the window to the concrete. I think the baby was about two years old at the time. HANK: And two weeks prior one happened in the city the same way and died. BRENDA: Exactly. Well this child, the parents ran outside, rushed the child to the hospital. He wasn t responding. And they called us right away and said, Pastors, pray. And of course, our church people are people that they press into God and they began to pray. And everybody just prayed. We called out to God and immediately we began to decree. Because we re confident that God is here for us because we spend that time. See, if you spend that time you re confident God is there when you need Him. And so we called out to God. We decreed that none of his bones would be broken, that the child would completely be made whole. And by the time, I think you went up to the hospital-- HANK: Be careful about what you see. Because when I went up there he was throwing up. BRENDA: It looked bad. He was sick. HANK: He had all kinds of braces. And I thought, oh no, he s throwing up blood. And it wasn t blood. It was the Kool-Aid and the hotdogs he had eaten before he went out the window. So you can be moved by what you see.

8 BRENDA: That s really true. HANK: It almost messed with my complete confidence at that moment. And I have to point out, if you want the supernatural you got to get out of your head. BRENDA: Yes you do. That s exactly right. So this child, Sid, God as my witness, not one bone in that child s body was broken. He was completely whole. I think he went home the next from the hospital. HANK: And they declared it a miracle, the doctors. BRENDA: They kept him for observation. The doctors declared it a miracle from the Lord. And these are the kinds of things that God does with people that press into Him. SID: Very briefly, tell me about the baby that was cured of an incurable disease. BRENDA: We had another child in our church who was born prematurely and I think there was something like 11 different diseases that this child was born with. It was supposed to die. The doctors were given, everyday they said to the mother, This child is getting worse. And again, we had a church that prayed. The Lord told Hank, Go up to the hospital. I want you to just rock this baby and pray. HANK: He told me that Sunday. He said, After the service, get up to the hospital and rock that baby. BRENDA: Just go up there. Rock this baby. People called out to God. And let me just tell you, Sid, I m talking the kinds of prayer that will not take no for an answer. SID: Bottom line. BRENDA: And so that child was healed, completely made whole. HANK: Today, beautiful, beautiful. BRENDA: And beautiful little girl today. A complete miracle. SID: You know what I love about your book, Hank? This book, Don t Leave God Alone, there s a presence of God on this that will cause you to be able to want to persevere, to have that breakthrough in every arena of your life. Hank, pray for those young children that are watching right now or the parents that have written their name down. HANK: Right now, in the name of Jesus of Nazareth, I stretch my hands right through that camera right into where you re at and in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth I declare the healing power of God over your child, over your baby. I rebuke sickness. I rebuke disease. I declare incurable diseases go in Jesus name. And I declare that the same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead touch your baby, touch your child right now. And I declare right now by the

9 authority of Jesus Christ be healed from the top of your head to the souls of your feet. And I see someone right now. You re touching your child. There s something with their legs. They haven t been able to move their legs. I declare now those legs be loose now by the authority of Jesus Christ. And I declare even cerebral palsy, Lord God of Heaven, touch that one right now in the name of Jesus. No, that s it. Lay your hands upon that child. Lay your hands upon that, no, there s no distance now as we declare this. Be healed in Jesus name. And I declare over your household peace. I declare over your household comfort. And I declare over your house now the healing power of God. And I say, you can even touch where my hand is right now. And I declare whatever your symptom is, whatever your sickness is let the healing power of God now go into your body, go into your home, go into your children now and from this moment forward it shall be different. BRENDA: Yes, Lord. Jesus. SID: Hank, you teach that you literally through prayer can change God s mind? You really believe that. HANK: That s what the patriarchs in the Bible did. They re no different than we are. And Moses, God at one point said, Moses, leave me alone! Because he was so angry at how the children of Israel were acting. But Moses did something that we need to do. He said, I m not gonna leave you alone, God until you bless the people. That s what he said. Jacob was another one. He said, God, I m not gonna leave you alone until you bless me. And that s what I ve learned. BRENDA: That s right. SID: Hank, I am not gonna leave you alone. I m not gonna leave YOU alone until you walk into the most wonderful world in existence. It s a world where you re a friend of God s, where God knows your name. The only way to do this, the entry, the gate is the Messiah of Israel, Yeshua, Jesus, the anointed one. Ask him to wash your sins away and live inside of you via Lord now. [music] [commercial] Next week on It s Supernatural. When my guest, a rabbi, blows his shofar, many people are supernaturally healed. Major miracles, I mean like the deaf hear and the blind see. [music]