MICHAEL BROWN: Where is this paradigm found?

1 Is there a supernatural dimension, a world beyond the one we know? Is there life after death? Do angels exist? Can our dreams contain messages from Heaven? Can we tap into ancient secrets of the supernatural? Are healing miracles real? Sid Roth has spent over 35 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of It s Supernatural. MICHAEL BROWN: Hello. I'm Michael Brown filling in for Sid Roth. Welcome to my world where it is naturally supernatural. Baal worship in America, channeling spirits in the White House, celebrating immorality in the government, you think it's too late for our nation, too dark in our nation, but I'm telling you we could be on the verge of the greatest outpouring in America's history. Are you ready? I'm here with my friend Jonathan Cahn. Jonathan, your book "The Harbinger," instant national bestseller, really impacted the nation, a warning of coming judgment. You have a new book, "The Paradigm," which is even more explosive. Tell us about this. JONATHAN CAHN: "The Paradigm" really is the master blueprint. If you can imagine, what if there was a blueprint about what's happening right now that goes back almost 3000 years, but lies behind everything that's happening. This is a biblical paradigm and it's not like the other dimension of the "The Harbinger." "The Harbinger" is showing the signs of warning of judgment. Well this is everything else. We are replaying an ancient mystery where we are right now. And it's amazing and it is something, it's true, it's real and it's there. MICHAEL BROWN: Where is this paradigm found? JONATHAN CAHN: Well when you look in the Bible and you look at what happened to ancient Israel, Israel knew God, but they turned away from God. They drove God out of their lives. They called evil good, they promoted immorality and they started lifting up their children as sacrifices to Baal, and they started descending. Well we are replaying that. America has known God. We've been replaying. We've been calling good evil, we've been promoting immorality, we've been lifting up our children. MICHAEL BROWN: So as Israel did JONATHAN CAHN: We are doing, exactly. But here's the thing. It's not just a general thing. There is a specific period in Israel's history, in the Bible, a specific period that the apostasy accelerates, it deepens where the leaders actually are promoting it now. It's almost like a war of culture. Well that period, that special period, that's where we are now. It's accelerated and that is where the paradigm actually gets so specific it gives details, it gives names, it gives dates, all that. That's the setting of "The Paradigm." MICHAEL BROWN: Let's start, let's focus on an individual, the king in this paradigm. JONATHAN CAHN: Yes. The culture begins where in the Bible there is a king who rises up and he is the first one who pioneers, he's like pushing Baal worship, and the name is Ahab, or Achab in Hebrew, Ahab. And he rises up. Now he is a divided man. He was actually raised, his culture is supposed to be about God, but he's divided. He's compromised. He's actually weak willed in many ways, but he launches this war. He's the first one to actually champion from the throne Baal worship, which is the offering up of children. Now could there be a parallel? Well

2 there is. There's a man who is, who rises as president. He is Bill Clinton. He's going to follow the template of Ahab. He's a man who's divided, he's compromised. He actually came from the Bible Belt. He has, he's weak willed in many ways, but he champions, he's the first president to champion abortion from the White House. He's the first president to champion various forms of immorality, and also, by the way, Ahab also is going to be known for scandal as well. But yes, he has someone with him. It's the first time in Israel's history that the Bible speaks about a team, a king and queen, both engaging in this culture war. And so who's the other one? The other one is of course Jezebel. Again, we got to pray for everyone. But Jezebel, Jezebel, she's the daughter of a pagan priestess, she actually, who worships Ashtoreth. This is, that was her father who worshiped that. So she's steeped in female power. She's goes, she's from a cosmopolitan culture, but she moves to a conservative culture to be with her husband. Okay, that's where he's from. But she maintains her identity. She will champion, she will see biblical traditional values as deepseated religious beliefs as a hindrance. She will war against them. She will also champion, she's the champion of Baal worship. And so her main cause is the offering up of children in the end. So what is the parallel? Well it's very clear and that is not that Bill Clinton was, not alone. It was a team for the first time in American history. You had a president and a co, kind of co-presidency and you have, she is, Hillary Clinton is an advocate of female power, advocate of abortion. She literally said deep-seated religious beliefs have to be changed. MICHAEL BROWN: All right. So hang on. You're saying that the same way that it happened in Israel, same timeframes in some prophetic sense from God is being lived out again, even to the same dates? JONATHAN CAHN: Yes. Let me give you an example. Bill Clinton, when did he come on the national stage? Well he was elected as Governor of Arkansas. He goes right from there, later on he becomes President. So '79, so when did he end? It was 2001, his office is ended. He leaves the presidency. So you have 1979 to 2001. How many years? It's 22 years. Open up the Bible to what it says. How long was Ahab? Ahab, the days of Ahab were 22 years, the same exact. MICHAEL BROWN: All right, so you have Ahab with this Jezebel. Again, we're not calling Hillary Clinton Jezebel. We're praying for her. JONATHAN CAHN: Yes, it's a template. You got to pray. It's a template. MICHAEL BROWN: You got to pray. It's a template. But she brings in stuff with her, doesn't she? JONATHAN CAHN: Well what does the Bible say about Jezebel? It's not saying that she knew what she was doing, that Hillary Clinton knew what she was dong. But Jezebel, it says literally, "Brought in priests of the gods and goddesses into the palace to the highest throne." You see that in the Bible. Well could that happen? It may be crazy. How would it happen with the White House? Well it actually happened. In the Clinton years, what happens is the Clintons actually bring spiritual advisors, they're not biblical, they're new age advisors, to Camp David and to the White House, and literally, they have sessions, this is Hillary Clinton, has a woman there who's called a high priestess who actually speaks of the goddesses. She had a goddess around her neck,

3 an image of a goddess around her neck. She actually, the worship of these goddesses in the time of Jezebel involved channeling, involved speaking to the dead. MICHAEL BROWN: Séances. JONATHAN CAHN: Something like that, and actually they had channeling in the White House. Hillary Clinton was actually speaking as someone who was not, who was dead, and the actual, this woman actually spoke, she wrote a book about speaking to the gods and goddesses, and she actually mentions the goddess of Jezebel in her book. And they actually had these sessions in the White House, so even this took place. Crazy, but it actually happened in the book, "The Paradigm." MICHAEL BROWN: All right, friend, we are just getting started. You won't believe what's coming next. We'll be right back to It's Supernatural. [commercial] We now return to It's Supernatural. MICHAEL BROWN: Welcome back, friends. I am here with my guest Jonathan Cahn. All right, this is kind of mind blowing stuff, and obviously you're reading the Word and it started to jump off the pages. Wow, we've seen this before. Could it be happening again? So let's keep going. Where are things after Bill Clinton? JONATHAN CAHN: Well a few things. First of all, in the book, in "The Paradigm" there's something called the nemesis. Now here's something that happens in "The Paradigm," in the ancient one and what's happening now. In the time of that king, Ahab, comes a nemesis, an arch enemy of Israel. He rises up and he threatens Israel. He threatens to invade it. He actually will invade it. He becomes, and so he, in the time of Ahab, Ahab actually has a chance to eliminate this man and he doesn't do it, and God actually judges him. What happens, and this man, this enemy is going to bring destruction to the land. Okay. Could this happen actually now? Well here's the paradigm. In the days of that king, that's Clinton, will rise a nemesis, an enemy of the nation. Well he rises from the Middle East and according to the paradigm, and his name is Osama Bin Laden. He rises in this time. He threatens America. Clinton actually has a chance to take him out, I'm not judging him, just like Ahab did, but he passes on it. It will end up bringing destruction to America. That happens there. In the paradigm, the man's name, his name is kind of a hyphenated name, it's Ben-Hadad. Well that first name in Arabic, B-N, in Hebrew it's just B-N, Ben or Bin. It even gives the parameter of his name, Bin Laden has the same first part. The thing is calamity comes on the land, but then remember how long it took to get Bin Laden? It took many years. They thought they would get him. You know, but what happened, according to the paradigm, here's what happens. It actually says he will be assassinated, according to the paradigm. It says, according to the paradigm, he will be assassinated in his bedroom. While he's sleeping they will come in and he will be assassinated in his bedroom. So Bin Laden was, so this

4 ancient nemesis was. And actually, according to the paradigm, it says he will be assassinated ten years after the calamity. Go ten years, it brings you to 2011, the assassination of Bin Laden. MICHAEL BROWN: The life of Ahab. JONATHAN CAHN: Yes. MICHAEL BROWN: The scandal with a man named Naboth, in Hebrew, Nabot, what happened? JONATHAN CAHN: Yes. Well just to give a brief thing, you know, it involves Ahab and Jezebel. They take the vineyard of this man. They kill him. They have a false witness. He breaks about like maybe half of the Ten Commandments almost to do this, coveting and false witness. Well it's a scandal. So it's not just that there's apostasy, there's scandal. Well the Clinton years were also known, obviously, for scandal and there was a major, the major scandal happened, involved also coveting, also false witness and many things. And so when did it happen? According to the paradigm, in happens in the 19th year of Ahab. Okay, that's when it happens. So let's take what we had before. Clinton comes on the stage in 1979, add 19 years, it brings you to the year 1998. That is the year of the Lewinsky scandal, the great scandal of his presidency. In fact, he came on the stage January of 1998. Add the 19 years, it comes to January. January 1998 pinpoints the month that the scandal breaks. MICHAEL BROWN: What is the Mystery of Days? JONATHAN CAHN: Okay. All right. Here is the thing. There's a lot of things that we only, of course, we won't have chance to touch on things. MICHAEL BROWN: Just touch on it. JONATHAN CAHN: But just to give you an example here. When then scandal is uncovered of Ahab, and he's rebuked by Elijah, okay, he actually repents. The Bible says he repented and so God says, okay, I m not going to bring judgment right now. I'm going to give a certain space of time. How long was that time? It was three years. Okay, so first thing, could an American president actually repent publicly? Well it's only happened really once where someone told him, it was actually Bill Clinton and finally he repented of that affair. Now he did, when did that happen? It happened in the White House. It happened at the White House Prayer Breakfast where he finally says, "Listen, I didn't repent before, this is my repentance. I have sinned." It happens in there. So let's take the paradigm. The paradigm, three, if you go to the Bible, three years after the king's repentance there will be a calamity that comes on the land. Okay. You can see it in the Bible. So three years after. So if you take the moment of his repentance, add three years to it, it brings you to an exact date, it brings you to September 11, 2001, the exact day of the calamity. In fact, he repented in the morning. You take three years to the day in the morning, it happens in the morning. That event started at 8:30. That pinpoints the hour of 9/11. It happened at 8:46. The repentance of the king happens between 9 and 10. That's the peak of 9/11. The event ended at 10:30. 9/11 ended when the last tower came down at 10:29, within one minute of three years. That's how exact this is, Mike. This is the master blueprint.

5 MICHAEL BROWN: All right, what happens to the queen? We know Jezebel has an heir. JONATHAN CAHN: Yes. MICHAEL BROWN: The parallel here, the queen and the heir. JONATHAN CAHN: Yes. People think that Ahab got killed, then Jezebel gets judged. No. Jezebel, this is what happens. The king's reign ends, but Jezebel goes on in the halls of power. She remains in the halls of power, she dwells in the capitol city, she keeps going for some, for a good period of time, even that time period is going to be exact, too. So she goes on and then, and at one point we know Hillary Clinton, what happens with her, she goes on, she stays in power, she stays in the halls of power, and then she attempts to be president. Well according to the paradigm, at least during this time she doesn't become president. What happens is this, another, someone else becomes, a man who is a lot younger than her, in the paradigm, becomes president, Joram. Joram opens up the next template and that is Obama. MICHAEL BROWN: So he's the heir. JONATHAN CAHN: He's the heir because, he's not related by flesh and blood, but he follows in the footsteps, he takes the agenda of Bill Clinton and he continues it into this, he's the political heir of that. Now Joram dwells in the palace with the former queen. So exactly, even that, he invites Hillary Clinton, they dwell together in that time. What you see, he's a cooler personality. He's all over the place, but what you see is a hostility to God, a continuous hostility to God in that and that's what you see as well in the Obama years. But also, interesting, when I mention that the nemesis is killed later on. Well he's killed in the reign of Joram. It means during Obama, the paradigm is saying during Obama, during that time, Osama Bin Laden will be killed. And actually Jezebel and Joram are in the White House. So Obama and Hillary Clinton are in the White House when he's killed. MICHAEL BROWN: All right. Could it be that this paradigm actually predicts President Trump and what's happening? JONATHAN CAHN: Yes. MICHAEL BROWN: That's where we're going next. We'll be right back to It's Supernatural. [commercial] We now return to It's Supernatural. MICHAEL BROWN: What we know in Scripture that we can see as things happen in Israel, they're happening in America or there's a template when God brings judgment. JONATHAN CAHN: Yes.

6 MICHAEL BROWN: You were saying that studying Scripture, studying the ancient historical books of Israel you discovered that part of these parallels are striking and could it even lay things out in advance if we're looking at it, and this is what's coming next. So we know our history. We know the problems we've had with our administrations. And now we see someone emerging, someone unexpected, and in the paradigm you talk about the warrior. Who's the warrior? JONATHAN CAHN: So you have the House of Ahab. If he stays in power it's going to seal the apostasy. So God, something happens. It's going to be a showdown. Someone rises up in the book, in "The Paradigm," it's called, he's called the warrior. MICHAEL BROWN: But he's not just like a kind of quiet. JONATHAN CAHN: No, no, not quiet at all. No, not quiet at all by any stretch of the imagination. MICHAEL BROWN: Peacemaker. JONATHAN CAHN: No, no. He's a warrior. He's not even a politician. MICHAEL BROWN: In the paradigm. JONATHAN CAHN: In the paradigm. He's a warrior. He's a fighter. He fights with everybody, okay, in the paradigm. He's name is Jehu. MICHAEL BROWN: Zealous, very zealous. JONATHAN CAHN: He's zealous. MICHAEL BROWN: He's got some rough edges. JONATHAN CAHN: He is not gentle at all. He is coarse. He's a fighter. He's fighting everybody and he begins this race to the throne. Read the, he actually begins a race to the throne, and the Bible describes the race as, the word is "crazy". They said he was crazy. He drives crazy. The man drives furiously. It's crazy. But he gets to the throne. Even though it's a crazy race, he gets to the throne. MICHAEL BROWN: And he has a certain zeal for the things. JONATHAN CAHN: Yes. The zeal is a crazy zeal, but he's used by God, and he's the most unlikely person. The commoners can't even agree if he's saved or not, but he's being used of God. And so what happens, I'll just, we can only touch on some things, but he ends up in a show to show, a showdown against the former queen. So you have the former queen, and you have Hillary Clinton, you have the warrior, you have Donald Trump. Okay. And so now here's the thing, Michael. I said if you knew the paradigm before these things, I knew the paradigm. I didn't even know. If we knew it you could have actually foretold all this. All the polls were saying Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton. The paradigm was saying no.

7 MICHAEL BROWN: And there are prophetic words about Donald Trump being like a Divine wrecking ball, as you call him, God's chaos candidate. But that's like Jehu. JONATHAN CAHN: That's Jehu. That's exactly Jehu. Everything, Michael. So the things the paradigm was saying, no, when the warrior meets the former queen, the warrior will defeat the former queen and it will be a downfall, and that's exactly what happens. There is so much, there are details to this, too. So he wins. He now heads to the capitol city. Jehu heads to the capitol city. Now why does he head to the capitol city? To drain the swamp. Absolutely. Absolutely. This is not political here. The thing is that Jehu specifically is ending Baal worship, which is what, the offering up of children. So even Trump puts as his agenda we want to dismantle this, which leads to the next thing. And that is that when he goes there he actually destroys the temple of Baal in the capitol city. Now the temple of Baal was built by Ahab. And so what, he starts dismantling the system of killing children. Well that has been, one of the first things Trump did was sign the executive orders to start, to try to dismantle it. But interesting, now beyond this, could there be another sign? Well the thing is that when Jehu rises, when he goes to the capitol, the temple of Baal falls. So here's the paradigm. When the warrior rises the temple of Baal falls. Could there actually be a temple of Baal in the world? Well there is. There was a temple of Baal that stood for 2000 years in the Middle East. It survived everything. But when Trump rose, the temple of Baal in the Middle East fell, was destroyed. It was destroyed. And it happened in 2015. You can check it out. Happened in the summer. Just after Trump announces, his rise, it falls. Even that. And here's another thing, Michael. I said all the parameters are there. Well let's take the days, in the book, there's something called the Days of the Queen. So how long does Jezebel, how long is Hillary Clinton? She was the First Lady of Arkansas to the First Lady of America. Her rise with her husband was 22 years. Then how long does she go on? She goes on for 12 years. She's Senator and she's Secretary of State. Then she retires from public life for two years, if you read, then she comes back for two years to campaign for the presidency. Well that comes out to 14 years. So you have 22 years, you have 14 years. Look up at Jezebel and put it together. Jezebel was with her husband reigning for 22 years. She went on for how long, 14 years, the exact same thing. The exact same. MICHAEL BROWN: All right. So what is coming next and as you understand this paradigm, do we have hope for the future? JONATHAN CAHN: Okay. First of all, yes, in the paradigm there's something called about the days to come. Actually, the paradigm actually converges with the harbinger because it's the same setting. The first thing, what's happened is now this is a window. According to the paradigm, this is a window like a reprieve where we have a chance for revival. We have a chance. You know, it just depends what we do with it. But there's a whole thing about the future in there. We have one minute to go so I'm just going to say this. So yes, we are at a dangerous period. There is a warning in the paradigm, actually what Jehu does or doesn't do, but there is also a chance. There is something in the paradigm called the Elijah paradigm and that is, it actually contains the keys for believers right now. What are we to do? How are we to live? How are we to overcome? How can there be revival? That's in the Elijah paradigm because Elijah is in this, too, and that's the final part. So there is hope. As long as there's God, there's hope, but it's, the thing is that we've got to be like Elijah. The days of easy Christianity are over. We have to be radical. We have to

8 be bold. We have to be on fire. We have to stand up for the truth and God will use it. God will anoint the Elijahs of the day. MICHAEL BROWN: All right Jonathan, I need you to pray right now for the rising of that Elijah spirit among the people of God. JONATHAN CAHN: Okay. Lord, we just ask your hand on this nation, Father. We thank you that you're never finished. We thank you, Lord that you have promised revival if we will come before you. Father, we ask for the spirit of Elijah to come upon this nation, come upon the church, come upon the one listening. Lord, take away the spirit of timidity and, Lord, give a spirit of boldness, of confidence, of Elijah, Lord. Help us to be, Lord, these are the days of Elijah. Help us to be the Elijahs of the day. Help us to rise up and, Lord, we pray let there be revival in the land. Let there be revival in Washington, revival in the coast land, revival in the cities. Let there be revival, Lord. Come soon and have your way. We praise you in the name of the Yeshua Hamashiach, Jesus the Messiah, the Lord of all. Amen. MICHAEL BROWN: Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Friends, here's the bottom line. These are urgent times, but there is hope. God, start the revival with you and with me. It's time. [commercial] SID: Next week on It's Supernatural. My guest was brain dead for 11 hours, went to Heaven, sent back with a message from Heaven