CITY OF CREVE COEUR - MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 4, 2012 7:00 P.M. A public hearing and regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Creve Coeur, Missouri was held on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, at the Creve Coeur Government Center, 300 North New Ballas Road. Chair Tim Madden called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: OTHERS PRESENT: Mr. Tim Madden, Chair Mr. James Faron Mr. Ken Howard Ms. Cynthia Kramer Mr. Jim Schnarr Mr. Carl Lumley, City Attorney Mr. Paul Langdon, Director of Community Development Ms. Whitney Kelly, AICP, City Planner 2. ADDITIONS TO ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA The Agenda was accepted as written. 3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Draft Minutes of August 20, 2012 Mr. Faron moved approval of the draft minutes as written, and Mr. Howard seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. 4. PUBLIC COMMENT None 5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS A. #12-001: An application to consider a text amendment for comprehensive revisions to Article VIII Sign Regulations of the Zoning Ordinances. Mr. Langdon asked the Commission for a continuance to the next Planning and Zoning meeting on September 17 th, 2012. Mr. Schnarr motioned application #12-001 be continued to the next Planning and Zoning meeting of September 17, 2012. Mr. Faron seconded the motion with resultant vote as follows:
Mr. Faron aye Mr. Schnarr aye Ms. Cynthia Kramer arrived after this vote. 6. NEW BUSINESS A. PUBLIC HEARING Application #12-023: Request for approval of a revised master sign plan for the Barnes Jewish West County Hospital at 12634 Olive Boulevard. Applicant/Agent: Diane Glen Barnes Jewish West County Hospital 12634 Olive Boulevard Mr. Jon Krone Warren Sign Company 2955 Arnold Tenbrook Road Arnold, MO 63010 Mr. Jon Krone, Warren Sign, 2955 Arnold Tenbrook Road, presented on behalf of Barnes Jewish West County Hospital. Mr. Krone explained there were three points they wanted to talk about, which is the main entrance signage, the emergency room signage, and intersection signage on campus that BJC would like to upgrade. Mr. Krone showed the Commission illustrations of where signs will be located and how they will be updated. Mr. Faron asked if the illuminated signs were kept on 24 hours a day, to which Mr. Krone replied yes. Ms. Whitney Kelly, City Planner, explained the application and stated Staff finds all signs compatible and recommends approval of the application. Mr. Faron motioned to approve the amended Master Signage Plan for the Barnes Jewish West County Hospital Campus, submitted with Application #12-023, subject to the conditions contained in the draft ordinance attached to the staff report for the meeting of September 4, 2012. Ms. Kramer seconded the motion with the resultant vote as follows: B. PUBLIC HEARING Application #12-024: Request for site development plan and conditional use permit approval for St. Timothy s Episcopal Church at 808 N. Mason Road. Applicant/Agent: Ron Batty St. Timothy s Episcopal Church 2
808 N. Mason Road Christopher Chiodini Chiodini Associates 1401 S. Brentwood Blvd. Suite 425 Saint Louis, MO 63144 Mr. Chris Chiodini, Chiodini Associates, 1401 S. Brentwood, presented on behalf of St. Timothy s, and explained the application. Mr. Chiodini showed the Commission a site map showing the proposed plans and explained the landscape plan. Mr. Schnarr asked what the trash enclosure was going to be made of and Mr. Chiodini stated it was to be made of masonry. Ms. Kelly spoke to the Commission about the applicant proposing this in December of 2010, however too much time lapsed in between that project and now and the scope of work has been scaled down, that is why they are seeking new approval. Mr. Faron motioned to approve the Conditional Use Permit and Site Development Plan Amendment for the St. Timothy s Episcopal Church, submitted with Application #12-024, subject to the conditions contained in the draft ordinance attached to the staff report dated September 4, 2012. Ms. Kramer seconded the motion with the resultant vote as follows: C. PUBLIC HEARING Application #12-025: Request for conditional use permit amendment to allow a Jaguar/Land Rover showroom at the former Reuther Chrysler/Jeep dealership. Applicant/Agent: Asbury Automotive St. Louis L.L.C. c/o Asbury Automotive Group 2905 Premiere Parkway, Suite 300 Duluth, GA 30097 Jerry Patterson Plaza Motors Company 11830 Olive Boulevard Mr. Jerry Patterson, Plaza Motors, 11830 Olive Boulevard, presented the Commission members with updated plans for the application. Mr. Patterson stated the plan is to move their Rover/Jaguar store over to the former Reuther site. Mr. Craig James, Praxis Three Architects, 1776 Peachtree Street, Atlanta, Georgia, explained the site picture and where access points to the building are located and showed several visuals from different views of the building. 3
Mr. David Caldwell, 257 Brooktrail Court, asked what provisions are there for bus stops and public transit. Mr. Langdon answered he did not believe so. Mr. David Lang, Millbradt Lawn Equipment, 11700 Olive Boulevard, stated Ham Avenue is his company s driveway, not a public street. Mr. Lang opposes it being used as an entrance to the proposed project. Mr. Lang also stated Ham Avenue belongs to his company. Mr. Patterson explained the Ham Avenue access was not the main entrance; the main entrance is off of Olive Boulevard. Mr. Lang asked what the Ham Avenue entrance was going to be used for, and Mr. Patterson replied for circulation and the eighteen wheeler access. Mr. Lang wanted to know if there was any possibility of not using Ham Avenue at all. Mr. Langdon explained the information from St. Louis County Recorder s Office shows Ham Avenue as a public right-of-way, but the pavement goes on and off the right-of-way, it is substandard, which is part of the applicant s request, is to dedicate ground for additional right-of-way. Mr. Langdon stated he was not sure if Mr. Lang had information regarding Ham Avenue that the City did not, but if he did they would request a copy of it for City records. Mr. Langdon showed the Commission the St. Louis County website showing Ham Avenue listed as a public right-of-way. Mr. Lang explained some history of Ham Avenue. Mr. Lang stated Creve Coeur does not maintain the street as one of theirs. Mr. Carl Lumley, City Attorney, stated testimony from any party is not adequate, not siding with anyone in the matter, but stating the back and forth will not solve the issue. Ms. Kramer asked if Mr. Lang had documentation in regards to the land ownership question, and Mr. Lang said he believed so. Mr. Mike Merritt, Attorney, 725 Old Ballas Road, was a lawyer in a lawsuit where Reuther was awarded access to use Ham Avenue, and Mr. Merritt can provide documentation. Mr. Merritt also stated he believed the judgment would carry to all property owners of the site. Mr. Langdon presented the application, on behalf of Staff, and showed pictures of the site to show Commission how the property looks today. Mr. Langdon also showed the site map pointing out access points and the street views. Mr. Langdon stated the objective is to create a street wall, giving pedestrians the feel of private use in a public space. Mr. Langdon also stated under the conditional use permit requirements; the site is conventional and well funded. Mr. Schnarr asked about the detention basin, how big it is, and will it be a complete rebuild. Mr. Lenny Meers, Grimes Consulting, answered they will be complying with MSD s requirements. Mr. Lumley clarified the draft ordinance, referring to the different dates on the plans, and wanted to know if the Grimes Consulting plans were revised with all the others. Mr. Meers stated no, they are still dated 8/10/12. Mr. Langdon also addressed and discussed pedestrian use and bicycle use along Olive Boulevard. Mr. Lumley stated conditions of approval need to be revised. Mr. Faron motioned approval of the of a new conditional use permit for the Plaza Jaguar- Land Rover dealership as presented tonight and according to the draft ordinance attached to 4
the staff report on application #12-025, dated September 4, 2012, with a change from Landscape Tracts and Praxis with a date of September 4, 2012 on their documents to be submitted. Ms. Kramer seconded the motion with the resultant vote as follows: D. PUBLIC HEARING Application #12-026: Request for approval of a revised master sign plan for Mercy Hospital Campus at 615 S. New Ballas Road. Applicant/Agent: Donald Kalicak Mercy 615 S. New Ballas Road Bill Behrens Warren Sign Company 2955 Arnold Tenbrook Road Arnold, MO 63010 Mr. Donald Kalicak, Mercy Hospital, explained why they were requesting a revision to the Master Sign Plan, which was to make their branding all the same. Mr. Behrens showed a presentation of the new logo and showed the old signs next to the new signs and pointed out they were simple modifications of what already exists. Ms. Kelly presented the Commission the application and stated the designs were well done and consistent in their design, therefore recommending approval of the application. Mr. Faron motioned approval of the Master Signage Plan for the Mercy Campus, submitted with Application #12-026, subject to the conditions contained in the draft ordinance attached to the staff report for the meeting of September 4, 2012. Mr. Howard seconded the motion with the resultant vote as follows: 7. WORK AGENDA None 8. OTHERBUSINESS A. Planning Division Report Mr. Langdon stated all the items passed at this meeting will be moving forward to City Council for first reading on Monday, September 10 th, 2012. 5
Mr. Langdon informed the Commission at the next Planning and Zoning meeting they would be presenting the sign code in form of an ordinance, and there will be a public hearing for a text amendment, to bring in a new use, which is a recovery facility for people discharged from elective surgery. B. City Attorney Report None 9. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to come before the Planning and Zoning Commission, upon motion being made and duly seconded, the meeting was adjourned at 8:32 p.m. Julie Lowery, Recording Secretary Timothy Madden, Chair 6