Page 1 of 13 Ali Navali <kenadian@gmail.com> CIRCUMCISION? ---- Rebbe Simon Altaf & Pastor Douglas Nicholson did EITHER ONE OF YOU EVER, AND I MEAN EVER - fulfill Elohim's MOST fundamental command in the TORAH? please prove it!!! 2 messages kenadian <kenadian@gmail.com> Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:42 AM To: Simon <shimoun63@yahoo.com>, Pastor Douglas Nicholson <douglasnicholson@lasttrumpet.org> Cc: Ali Navali <kenadian@gmail.com> (TORAH) And ye shall circumcise the flesh; (Joshua 5:2 RNKJV) At that time YHVH said unto Joshua, Make thee sharp knives, and circumcise again the children of Israel the second time. CIRCUMCISION? IF MOSES & the children of Israel WERE NOT SPARED BY YHVH OR 'ĕlô lôhî hîym; THEN WHAT ABOUT YOU; 1. Rebbe Simon Altaf? 2. Pastor Douglas Nicholson? 3. and circumcise again
Page 2 of 13 the children of Israel the second time. that YHVH met him, and sought to kill him. God met Moses in anger. (Exodus 4:21 RNKJV) And YHVH said unto Moses, (Exodus 4:22 RNKJV) And thou [Moses] shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith YHVH, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: (Exodus 4:23 RNKJV)...; (Exodus 4:24 RNKJV) And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that YHVH met him, [Moses] ; and sought to kill him. [Moses] ; (Exodus 4:25 RNKJV) Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, [YHVH / Moses??] and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.[moses] Exo 4:24-31 God met Moses in anger.
Page 3 of 13 The Lord threatened him with death or sent sickness upon him, as the punishment of his having neglected to circumcise his son; Exo 4:24 In the inn - Or resting place. See Gen_42:27 note. Met him, and sought to kill him - Moses was attacked by a sudden and dangerous illness, which he knew was inflicted by God. The word sought to kill implies that the sickness, whatever might be its nature, was one which threatened death had it not been averted by a timely act. Zipporah believed that the illness of Moses was due to his having neglected the duty of an Israelite, and to his not having circumcised his own son; 1. Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; 2. and to command them to keep the TORAH of Moses; 3. the circumcising of the child, his name was called Yeshua; 4. according to the law of Moses were accomplished; 5. (Every male that openeth the womb; 6. shall be called holy to YHVH;) if YAHUSHUA was circumcised then what was stopping you from doing the same? (Luke 2:21 RNKJV) And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called Yeshua, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb. (Luke 2:22 RNKJV) And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to YHVH; (Luke 2:23 RNKJV) (As it is written in the TORAH of YHVH, Every male that openeth
Page 4 of 13 the womb shall be called holy to YHVH;) Rebbe Simon Altaf & Pastor Douglas Nicholson ; Simon <shimoun63@yahoo.com>; Pastor Douglas Nicholson <douglasnicholson@lasttrumpet. org>; CC'd: Ali Navali <kenadian@gmail.com>; shalom, i submit that both of you were continuously; lying and deceiving your congregations; everyday of your respective lives: Every man child among you shall be circumcised. (Genesis 17:10 KJV) This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. a token of the covenant (Genesis 17:11 KJV) And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be
Page 5 of 13 a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant. (Genesis 17:14 KJV) And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant. however, as the so-called Messianic Jews and Torah observants or whatever; did EITHER ONE OF YOU EVER, AND I MEAN EVER - fulfill Elohim's MOST fundamental commands in the TORAH? please prove it, if you ever did and how!!! waste your time, are you kidding me? WHAT makes either one of you think that i am writing for you? Rebbe Simon Altaf & Pastor Douglas Nicholson;
Page 6 of 13 HERE'S A FUNDAMENTAL CHALLENGE ON YOUR RESPECTIVE FAITH AND DUBIOUS / CLAIMS... CIRCUMCISION? as the so-called Messianic Jews and Torah observants, could you furnish any written evidence / medical certificates, etc., to substantiate your respective claims? Rebbe Simon Altaf & Pastor Douglas Nicholson could you kindly tell us when and how you, gentlemen fulfilled Elohim's fundamental command in the Torah re: CIRCUMCISION; and THEREBY, also FULFILLED your part / END of the covenant with Elohim, if ever? (Genesis 17:24 KJV) And Abraham was ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. (Genesis 17:25 KJV) And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. (Genesis 17:26 KJV) In the selfsame day was Abraham circumcised, and Ishmael his son.
Page 7 of 13 Rebbe Simon Altaf please tell your congregation when and how did your family have you circumcised as per the Torah?? were they Torah Observants as well? did you ever give-up that circumcision? if not what did that make you by circumcision? can / will you change that irrevocable fact of your physical & spiritual life?? otherwise, you are not reminded of your true identity and that circumcision DAILY?? can you or will you deny it or disown it and/or have yourself circumcised again?? (Genesis 17:23 KJV) And Abraham took Ishmael his son, and all that were born in his house, and all that were bought with his money, every male among the men of Abraham's house; and circumcised the flesh of their foreskin in the selfsame day, as God had said unto him. (Genesis 17:24 KJV) And Abraham was ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. (Genesis 17:25 KJV)
Page 8 of 13 And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. (Genesis 17:26 KJV) In the selfsame day was Abraham circumcised, and Ishmael his son. (Genesis 17:27 KJV) And all the men of his house, born in the house, and bought with money of the stranger, were circumcised with him. remember, you attacked Islam unprovoked. and also turned your personal family feud ; into ongoing vendetta against Islam. Snake changes skin & chameleon changes color. so what was your point? Pastor Douglas Nicholson douglasnicholson@lasttrumpet. org Messianic Jew and Torah observant 1. Father Douglas strikes me as an authentic, 2. loving and faithful priest. 3. It is a happy day for us in 4. the Anglican Catholic Church of Canada.
Page 9 of 13 as a Messianic Jew and Torah observant or whatever, did you fulfill the said most fundamental command in Torah? (Genesis 17:10 KJV) This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. (Genesis 17:11 KJV) And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. however, a Messianic Jew and Torah observant is still a Christian first and then a Jew [???] by claim and not Jewish by blood; whether you put the cart before the horse or vice versa. your fancy name change did not change you, or who you were, gentleman. gentlemen, look at your own respective histories and changes you have made continually, without observing the very fundamental command and requirement of the TORAH! however, what makes you or the JUDEO-Christianity or the Messianic-Judaism any different?? do you find any of those fanciful names in your : 1. Torah, 2. Tanach or 3. the New Testament?
Page 10 of 13 NO YOU WILL NOT! remember, Snake changes skin - but still remains snake & chameleon changes color - but still remains chameleon. and you, the human species are no different. YAHUSHUA WARNED THEM ABOUT YOU, YES YOU, GENTLEMEN!! for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; (2 Corinthians 11:14 RKJV-NT) And no wonder; for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. (2 Corinthians 11:13 RKJV-NT) For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. Lo, here is Christ, or there;
Page 11 of 13 (Matthew 24:23 KJV) Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. they shall deceive the very elect. (Matthew 24:24 KJV) For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. \ (TORAH) And ye shall circumcise the flesh; 1. Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; 2. and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 3. And YHVH thy Elohim will circumcise thine heart; 4. and circumcise again the children of Israel 5. the second time; 6. And this is the cause why Joshua did circumcise (Genesis 17:11 TORAH) And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. (Deuteronomy 30:6 RNKJV) And YHVH thy Elohim will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love YHVH thy Elohim with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live. (Joshua 5:2 RNKJV) At that time YHVH said unto Joshua, Make thee sharp knives, and circumcise again the children of Israel the second time.
Page 12 of 13 (Joshua 5:4 RNKJV) And this is the cause why Joshua did circumcise: All the people that came out of Egypt, that were males, even all the men of war, died in the wilderness by the way, after they came out of Egypt. (Luke 1:59 RNKJV) And it came to pass, that on the eighth day they came to circumcise the child; and they called him Zacharias, after the name of his father. (John 7:22 RNKJV) Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;)and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man. (Acts 15:5 RNKJV) But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. (Acts 21:21 RNKJV) And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. -- Sent via EmailTray, my personal email concierge. Get yours at http://www.emailtray.com -----Original Message----- From: Simon <shimoun63@yahoo.com> To: kenadian <kenadian@gmail.com>; Pastor Douglas Nicholson <douglasnicholson@lasttrumpet. org> Subject: Re: an OPEN CHALLENGE for pastor douglas nicholson & also match your offer of $10,000 Ali, Even an artificial light bulb has more light than Islam, look at all the Islamic countries full of corruption and filth. Truth and light does not bring filth and corruption. Stop wasting my time with your half baked truths:-) Shalom B'Shem Increases in Yahushua Ha El Melek Ha Shamayim Ve'Ha Eretz Rebbe Simon Altaf YHWH is my strength and my song; He has become my Yahshuah (Rescue). http://www.african-israel.com - TRUTH has been unleashed but can you handle it? It's time to seek the ancient paths of the Torah.
Page 13 of 13 continued an_open_challenge_for_pastor_ douglas_nicholson and i will also match your offer of $10,000 http://www.geocities.ws/ kenadian10/challenge_pastor_ douglas_nicholson_new.pdf copy and paste every link given herein in a browser window 3 attachments Clipboard 4656140.jpg 11K Clipboard 4899453.jpg 7K Pastor Douglas Nicholson.jpg 4K douglasnicholson@lasttrumpet.org <douglasnicholson@lasttrumpet.org> Wed, Fe 2013 at 1 To: kenadian@gmail.com Hello! This is a confirmation that you email has been delivered. I will respond accordingly. blessing Pastor Douglas Nicholson Last trumpet Org Ministries