HUUNG, JAMiS INTiftVUW 4666

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. r Form A-(S-149) BI&ORAPHY FORM ** ' XRKB PFDGR3SS ADMiriSTRATIOK Indian-Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma HOLING, JAMES.. INTERVIEW. 4666. Field Worker»s name Ethel B. Tfeckitt. This report made on (date) June 17. 1937. 193 Name Jamea Huling. 2. Post Office Addressg^yRt. 1. Blair. 0 Jb,,^ Residence address (or ixjatidn) Farm hone 1 mile'south of Blair. 4. DATE OF BIRTH:. Konth October Day IQ Year j 5. Place of birth Atlanta. Georgia. 6. Name of Father George Hilling. Place ef 7. Name cf!'other Mary Marbel Holing, Place cf birth Cther infomation about mother Was known as a very benevolent woman, especially to orphan children. Notes or complete narrative by the field worker dealing with the life and story of the person interviewed. Refer to Manual for suggested subjects and questions. Continue on blank sheets if necessary and "attach firmly to this form. Number of sheets attached 4,

'HOLING, JAMES, INTERVIEW. 4666. Ethel B, Tackitt, Field Worker, June 17, 1937. An Interview With James Huling, Blair, Oklahoma, ACCOUNTS OF THE PROBLEMS OF MAKING A LIVING IN 1888. I was.born near Atlanta, Georgia, October 10, 1869. My parents moved to Texas and settled in Collin County where we lived until 1888. From Collin County we moved to 01d Greer. County and not being cow people settled on a claimonemile south of Zinn's store. This settlement. was then called Dot after Mr, Zinn's little girl. The town of Dot was located one half mile south of the main street of the present town of Blair in Jackson County. We undertook to make a living by farming, but had few tools with which to bre"ak the sod that thickly covered the ground. The seasons were not like those we had been accustomed to, the dry weather burned up our crops and the wind and sand cut them off and blew them away so the first few years we put in our time going back to Texas and working for money to buy something to eat so that we could come back to Greer and try to hold down our claim.

298 HOLING, JAMES. ^ INTERVIEW. 4666. -2- For fuel, we had to haul wood and as there was so much more and so much better wood on the Indian Territory side of North Fork of Red River which was about ten miles to the north, I hauled our wood from there. The road was rough" and the sand was deep. The river had^_to be forded and one was never sure that a head rise would ffot come down and catch you on the Kiowa side, which was not a. pleasant thought as the Kiowa Indians knew that the white people were not supposed to cut or hai^l wood out of the Territory and some of them did not like the white people at all. During the winter it required quite a lot of.hauling, for we could only pull a small load through the sand. One day 1 had crossed the river near the mouth of Devil's Canyon and gone over on Tepee Greek.and was"chopping wood. I heard someone say, "Heloo, John". I looked around and there stood an Indian buck in his blanket, paint and feathers. He s.aid, "Maybe so, unload the wood".\ I told him, "No", 1 need it". He said, "Maybe so, you give one dollar". I said, "I do not have any dollar". He said, "Maybe so,, you come back tomorrow, bring two

HOLING, JAMES. INTERVIEW. 4666. -3-299 dollara* 1, I said all right and went home but l did not go back next day* k few days later i went back but to another place trusting that i would not see any Indians but to my dismay the same Indian shewed up. It wa3 the iliowa Chief ilomalty. He said, "Maybe so two, dollars." I told him that I did not have two dollars but my father had a 3tore at Dot and for him to come there and we would make it right. He said, "No, you heep lie% but he let me take the wood and go home. We settlers who moved into old Greer County and had no friends among the Indians, felt much fear of them as * we were so near the line and hauled wood from the Territory, we were never quite easy. Many tales came to us about things which happened in the Nation. When Jake Boohor,white cowboy killed Jake Poline, a Kiowa Indian, on August 29, 1891, just about twelve miles from us, our neighborhood was very much alarmed* Sheriff Huse Tittle with men from all over the county gathered at the place, succeeded tf# quieting the iiiowas and secured a promise from them that they would not go on the war path, but we

C\ ^ 300.. \ -4-. X 4666. feared that some of the braves might slip across^the river and do some damage. My father, George Huling } was JTudge of Greer xcounty \ at that time\nd I with a number of men fron what was the Dot community and is now the Blair community went out to Mr. J.vN. MeElroy* s f arm where the trouble occurred and leaving a light burning in the house, watched from a distance to see that no Indian approache3~the house,in the dark. The trouble was settled by the white man's court and this was the last Indian scare for Greer County. We proved up on our claim* Father and Mother have passed on but I, with my sister Mrs. Haynes, am yet living on it mm and farming it.