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Transcript of Side One of audio taped interview of Ellen Greenwell, Accession number T3944:2, Item AAAB4861, interviewer Howard H. Smith, 1976. Property of BC Archives. Transcribed by Helen Tilley in 2016. There is nothing on Side Two of this tape. [Ellen Greenwell has many memories about the miners strike and speaks as if she was still experiencing the events she talks about. She gets very excited and emphasizes many of the things she speaks about with a louder voice and much emotion. I have transcribed the tape in the vernacular in which she speaks and did not correct any of her grammar...helen Tilley.] [Tape starts abruptly] Howard Smith: cause your brother was in jail? Ellen Greenwell: Oh, yeah, [unintelligible]. Howard Smith: So, how long did your brother stay there? He was only sixteen. Ellen Greenwell: He was in there six months before his trial come up. I tell you they my father went over to see if he was getting out for Christmas day and they let him out the one day on ten thousand dollars until his trial come up in uh...january, I guess, his trial come up, you know. Howard Smith: Where did you get ten thousand dollars for bail? Ellen Greenwell: Well, I ll tell you where he got it. My uncle Leo, when he come here, from the old country, and my other uncle, they had bought this 150 acres of land on each side up there. And my father had a lot in Burnaby, an acre. And he had his property up every bit of that property went up. That s how they got bail for him. Howard Smith: And I guess a lot of people didn t even have that. Ellen Greenwell: Well, then my father, too, had another acre of land that he had way up in North Vancouver. And there was another man they could get out for Christmas so my father went up over and put that lot up, too, to get him out for Christmas, cause he had a family about five or six kids and his wife. So, he got him out for Christmas day, too. But, Ernie Morris never did get out; they wouldn t let him out attempted 1

murder. Big lie! [long pause] So, that s where the ten thousand dollars come from, it was property. [long silence on tape] Howard Smith: Well, those were really interesting times. Ellen Greenwell: Pardon? Howard Smith: Those were interesting times. Ellen Greenwell: Oh, yeah, not like today. You never see anything like that today. Never. They don t know what a strike is today. Howard Smith: When you were living during the strike, I mean, wasn t isn t that wasn t very much money, the four dollars a week strike pay. Ellen Greenwell: Yeah, but then, of course, things were a lot cheaper then, too. Howard Smith: So, it was enough to live on? Ellen Greenwell: Well, of course I want to tell you my father had a garden. We never bought our veggies at all. We had our own cows. We had our own chickens. My father s garden, oh, you got no idea. Howard Smith: So, he, when he was working, he d work eight hours in the mine and Ellen Greenwell: Mine and he built that at the back. And my father dug coal. He was a digger, a mine digger, the worst job in the mine. Dug coal and he d come home and plant the garden at night, Saturday and Sunday. And us kids had to weed them. And there wasn t a weed in, not a weed in that garden. Nothin doin. My father had one of the beautifullest gardens I ever saw [unintelligible]. Vegetables, well, oh, we never bought a vegetable. That s how we got along. And in them days, you know, you made all your own clothes, even if you made them out of flour sacks. And you made all your own bread. You didn t have any electricity. You had irons on the stove for clothin. You know what I mean. And we packed all our own [unintelligible] coal and sawed our wood. So, that s how we got along. It was much more thrifty than they are today. 2

Howard Smith: They couldn t do that today. Ellen Greenwell: [low voice] Oh, no. Uh, unh. Howard Smith: Did your father go hunting, also? Ellen Greenwell: Uh, not too much. My father never done much huntin. Once in a while. He never done much up north even. Well, you know, when you had your own cows and your own chickens and that and we had ducks. You didn t need to do much huntin. But mind you, the majority of them did, huntin and fishin. Oh, sure the majority of them hunted and fished. Howard Smith: To get along during the strike? Ellen Greenwell: Well, all the time they did it, you know, they hunted all the time. And then, too, nearly all of them had gardens, too. Howard Smith: I guess you ate better food then, too. Ellen Greenwell: Pardon? Howard Smith: I think there was better food. Ellen Greenwell: Oh, so do I. So do I. Yeah, I sure do. Howard Smith: Do you remember any kind of funny incidents that happened during the strike? Ellen Greenwell: Pardon? Howard Smith: Funny, you know that you think of when you think back on them you think they were really amusing. And you said you had some good times during the strike. Ellen Greenwell: Well, we did, well, there was good times, I mean like now, just on the football field, where they played baseball, my God, we d have a dance up there every night. Oh, we had picnics, the biggest picnics. Christmas trees at Christmas and dances in the hall, you know. Oh, yes we did, we really had a lovely enjoyment. Lovely enjoyment during the 1912 strike, we sure did. Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah. 3

Howard Smith: How much work was going on at the mines? Were they able to keep the mines open the whole time? Ellen Greenwell: Oh, yeah, they worked the whole time. Oh, yeah. But they say they ruined the mine. You know, they brought guys in there that just chopped it to pieces and knew nothing about minin. Always said it ruined the mine. Howard Smith: So, they had to shut it earlier than they would have. Ellen Greenwell: Well, I imagine, I imagine so. I imagine they did. But of course they always say it just run out, you know. But I ve heard lots say there s as much coal up there as was ever taken out. So there you are. Howard Smith: Tell me a bit about the labour leagues. Ellen Greenwell: The women s labour leagues? Howard Smith: Yeah, the women s labour leagues. Ellen Greenwell: Well, the only thing, you know, we done about that, we had our meetings and Howard Smith: When was this? When did you start with that? Ellen Greenwell: When we started the Women s Labour League? I don t know whether it was the late thirties or the...or the early forties. Might have [unintelligible] the late thirties. Howard Smith: It s open. Ellen Greenwell: Then that was more to, to...you know, we used to bring up what we were doin and what the women were doin and what we was tryin to get, you know, for the kids...shoes or whatever it was, you know and donating to different things. That was mostly what we done in the Women s Labour League. Howard Smith: Why were they called the Labour League? Ellen Greenwell: I don t know why they called them that. They come from Vancouver, I think, originally. I never ever knew. Howard Smith: It was just a way of the women organizing then. 4

Ellen Greenwell: Yeah. It was called the Women I think it originated in Vancouver. You ve never heard anything about it over there? Howard Smith: Oh, I ve heard a little bit about it. Ellen Greenwell: Yeah. Howard Smith: But I wondered how much activity there had been on the Island here. Ellen Greenwell: Yeah, well, not such a lot. It was Nanaimo was always the stumblin block, you know. You never could get Nanaimo to do anything. It was just the outskirts that done it like Extension and South Wellington and these here little places, not big things at all. These were [unintelligible]. Howard Smith: Why was that? Ellen Greenwell: I don t know. I couldn t tell ya. I couldn t tell ya. Howard Smith: Even today Nanaimo has a really different character than a lot of those smaller towns. Ellen Greenwell: Oh, Nanaimo is nothing! Nanaimo is nothing. Even Ladysmith to me has gone away from it. Ladysmith used to be quite a progressive little town, ya know. But to me it s dead now. Dead! It was quite the course, there you are again, it was the miners. But you think the same procedure would have followed with the loggers and the sawmills. That s all that keeps Ladysmith goin. But yet I never heard tell of them doin a thing. The only thing I ever heard tellin them doin was electin the CCF to parliament...or the NDP. Never heard tell of anything else. Howard Smith: Hm, strange. Ellen Greenwell: Of course, too, all the old gang, too, the old militant gang, I guess, has really gone by the wayside. It s all the new people in everywhere, too, you know, it s makin a difference. Oh, there s a bunch of new people all over. Howard Smith: You d think, though, that the new people coming in would learn, you know, from what the older people did. Ellen Greenwell: No, but this is what gets me: They always try to tell us that those people that come in this is what I was always told they re smarter because they had 5

to go through this in their country. I thought, I don t see it, I don t see it. As far as I m concerned, the ones I see come in here, to me, they want everything they can get a hold of. That s all I can say about them. Howard Smith: Yah, yes, that s true. [End of conversation on Side One of this tape.] [Nothing on Side Two of this tape.] 6