Indholdsfortegnelse Side Kort overblik 2 Boudewijn II Van Vlaanderen og Ida Van Henegouwen 4 Kildemateriale 6 Boudewijn VI Vlaander. & Richildis V.Henegouwen Hendrik II Leuven & Adela Van De Betuwe Ane nr. 1761286496/1761286497 1761286498/1761286499 Boudewijn II Van Vlaanderen & Ida Van Henegouwen 880643248/880643249 Arnoul Van Vlaanderen 440321624 Eustache I Vlaanderen 220160812 Eustache II Vlaandere 110080406 Elisabeth Van Roeulx Beatrijs V. Maldeghem 55040203 27520101 Olivier Van Axel 13760050 Elisabeth Van Axel Eksaerde 6880025 Wilhelmus Van Gavere Eksaarde 3440012 Willem Van Gavere 1720006 Kathelijne Van Gavere - Haasdonk 860003 Katelijne Hutzers - Haasdonk 430001 Willem Scoemaekers 215000 Petrus Scoemaekers 107500 Petrus Scoemaekers 53750 Livine Scoemakere 26875 Margriete V. Couteren Sint-Niklaas 13437 Dierik Ver Braecken Sint-Niklaas 6718 Johanna Ver Braken Sint-Niklaas 3359 Catharina De Maere Tielrode 1679 Amelberga Vernimmen - Thielrode 839 Marie Anne Smedt - Thielrode 419 Anne Petron. Everaert Thielrode 209 Robert Van Landeghem Thielrode 104 Bruno Van Landeghem Thielrode 52 Julien Van Landeghem Thielrode 26 Christ. V. Landeghem Boom 13 Emiel Jan Person Antwerpen 6 Louisa Augusta Person Åbyhøj 3 Grete A./Emil H. Sørensen - Lind/Værløse 1 aner\880643248/nov.2012 Side 0
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BOUDEWIJN II VAN VLAANDEREN & IDA VAN HENEGOUWEN Boudewijn II Van Vlaanderen er født omkring 1060 som søn af Boudewijn VI Van Vlaanderen og Richildis Van Henegouwen. Hans fødested er det endnu ikke lykkedes at opspore. Ida Van Henegouwen er født omkring 1060 som datter af Hendrik II Van Lotharingen/Leuven og Adela Van Betuwe. Hendes fødested er det endnu ikke lykkedes at opspore. Boudewijn II Van Vlaanderen og Ida Van Henegouwen får 10 børn. aner\880643248/nov.2012 Side 2
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Boudewijn II Van Vlaanderen og Ida Van Henegouwen Boudewijn II Van Vlaanderen/Henegouwen og Ida Van Henegouwen bliver gift omkring 1090. De bosætter sig i? Her får de følgende børn: 1. 1090, ca. - Arnoul Van Henegouwen/Vlaanderen 2. 10xx, - Ida Van Henegouwen 3. 10xx, - (datter) Van Henegouwen 4. 10xx, - Boudewijn III Van Henegouwen 5. 10xx, - Lodewijk Van Henegouwen 6. 10xx, - Simon Van Henegouwen 7. 10xx, - Henrik Van Henegouwen 8. 10xx, - Guillaume/Wilhelm Van Henegouwen 9. 10xx, - Richildis Van Henegouwen 10. 10xx, - Aelidis Van Henegouwen. Boudewijn II Van Vlaanderen er lensherre for Henegouwen (Hainault). Boudewijn II Van Vlaanderen deltager i det første korstog til Lilleasien. På vej til Antochia bliver han overfaldet og dræbt den 8.jun.1098 i Nicea. Ida Van Henegouwen rejser året efter til Lilleasien for at opklare sin mands skæbne. Sønnen Arnoul Van Vlaanderen (ane nr. 440321624) gifter sig med Beatrice Van Ath (ane nr. 440321625). De får en søn: Eustache I Van Vlaanderen. Datteren Ida Van Henegouwen gifter sig med Thomas Van Coucy. Ida Van Henegouwen dør omkring 1107. aner\880643248/nov.2012 Side 4
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Kildemateriale Kildemateriale 1: Herweijer/Familien Van Vlaanderen Generatie XX 600240 BOUDEWIJN II VAN VLAANDEREN, graaf van Henegouwen 1071, geboren ca. 1056. Hij nam deel aan de eerste kruistocht in 1098; hij werd in Klein-Azië op weg naar Antiochië overvallen en in 1098 vermoord. Zoon van BOUDEWIJN VI VAN VLAANDEREN (zie 1200480) en RICHILDIS (zie 1200481). Gehuwd 1094 met 600241 IDA VAN HENEGOUWEN, geboren ca. 1065, overleden na 1107. Zij reisde in 1099 naar Klein-Azië om onderzoek in te stellen naar het lot van haar man. Dochter van HENDRIK II VAN LEUVEN (zie 1200482) en ADELA VAN DE BETUWE (zie 1200483). Sønnen Arnoul: Generatie XIX 300120 ARNOUL VAN VLAANDEREN, heer in Henegouwen, overleden vóór 1146, zoon van BOUDEWIJN II VAN VLAANDEREN (zie 600240) en IDA VAN HENEGOUWEN (zie 600241). Gehuwd ca. 1115 met 300121 BEATRICE VAN ATH, erfgename van Ath, dochter van WAUTER VAN ATH (zie 300038) en ALIJDIS (ADELHEID) VAN RAMERU (zie 300039). aner\880643248/nov.2012 Side 6
Kildemateriale 2: Kareldegrote/Familien Van Vlaanderen Karel De Grote = 1. generation. 10. generation. 603. Boudewijn I VI Van Vlaanderen was born about 1030 and died on 17 Jul 1070 in Hanon about age 40. Boudewijn married Richilde Van Henegouwen Van Egisheim on 31 Mar 1051. Richilde was born about 1027 and died on 15 Mar 1086 about age 59. Children from this marriage were: + 817 F i. Adelheid Van Vlaanderen was born about 1055. 818 M ii. Boudewijn II Van Jerusalem Van Henegouwen was born about 1056 and died on 8 Jun 1098 in Nicaea about age 42. Boudewijn married Ida Van Leuven, daughter of Hendrik II Van Leuven and Adela Van De Betuwe, about 1084. Ida was born about 1065 and died about 1107 about age 42. 610. Ida Van Leuven was born about 1065 and died about 1107 about age 42. Ida married Boudewijn II Van Jerusalem Van Henegouwen, son of Boudewijn I VI Van Vlaanderen and Richilde Van Henegouwen Van Egisheim, about 1084. Boudewijn was born about 1056 and died on 8 Jun 1098 in Nicaea about age 42. Children from this marriage were: + 828 M i. Boudewijn III Van Henegouwen was born about 1084 and died on 17 Jun 1120 about age 36. + 829 F ii. Adelheid Van Henegouwen Van Leuven was born about 1085 and died about 1160 about age 75. 830 F iii. Ida Van Henegouwen was born about 1085 and died about 1101 about age 16. Ida married Thomas Van Coucy, son of Engelram Van Coucy and Ada Van Roucy-Marle, about 1100. Thomas was born about 1080 and died about 1130 about age 50. Noted events in his life were: Occupation: Heer van Marle. + 831 F iv. Alix Van Henegouwen was born about 1086 and died after 1153. + 832 M v. Arnoul Van Vlaanderen was born about 1090 and died before 1146. aner\880643248/nov.2012 Side 7
Kildemateriale 3: Wissenburg/Familien Van Vlaanderen 1.298.617.632 Boudewijn II van HENEGOUWEN Familienaam Index 1.298.617.632 Vader 2.597.235.264 Moeder 2.597.235.265 Geboren Henegouwen 1061 Overleden 1099 Huwt 1086 1.298.617.633 Alix van LEUVEN Familienaam Index 1.298.617.633 Vader onbekend Moeder onbekend Geboren ca. 1063 Kinderen: Boudewijn III Zie 649.308.816 Adelheid van Henegouwen (*ca. 1095), huwt Nicolaas II de Rumigny (*voor 1099 +na 1153), graaf van Rumigny voor 1152; vgl ES NF VII/76 aner\880643248/nov.2012 Side 8
Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Vlaanderen http://fmg.ac/projects/medlands/flanders,%20hainaut.htm#_toc212185 310 FLANDERS, counts B. COUNTS of FLANDERS [863]-1128. 8 BAUDOUIN V 1035-1067 BAUDOUIN de Flandre ([1030]-Hasnon Abbey 17 Jul 1070) RICHILDE, widow of HERMAN Comte de Hainaut, daughter of --- (-Messines 15 Mar 1087. Count Baudouin VI & his wife had three children: b) BAUDOUIN de Flandre ([1056]-on Crusade 1098, after 8 Jun). The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana names (in order) "Arnulfum et Balduinem" as sons of "Balduinum Haanoniensem [et] Richelde" [244]. Guibert describes him as "Balduinus comes de Montibus, Roberti Flandrensis comitis iunioris patrui, filius" [245]. "Balduino frater eius [Arnulphum occiso]" is named in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin [246]. He succeeded his brother in 1071 as BAUDOUIN II Comte de Hainaut. - COMTES DE HAINAUT. Noter/Referencer: [243] Annales Blandinienses 1071, MGH SS V, p. 26. [244] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana MGH SS IX, p. 306. [245] Guiberto Historia quæ dicitur gesta dei per Francos, RHC, Historiens occidentaux, IV ("Guibert") II.XII, p. 147. [246] Saint-Bertin I.21, p. 197. [247] Vanderkindere I, p. 300, citing Miræus IV, 185. aner\880643248/nov.2012 Side 9
Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Vlaanderen fortsat http://fmg.ac/projects/medlands/hainaut.htm#_toc230924679 HAINAUT Chapter 3. COMTES de HAINAUT [1051]-1195 (COUNTS of FLANDERS) 27 BAUDOUIN II 1071-1098. 27 BAUDOUIN de Flandre, son of BAUDOUIN VI Count of Flanders, BAUDOUIN I Comte de Hainaut & his wife Richilde de Mons Ctss de Hainaut ([1056]-killed near Nikaia 1098 after 8 Jun). Guibert describes him as "Balduinus comes de Montibus, Roberti Flandrensis comitis iunioris patrui, filius" [196]. "Balduino frater eius [Arnulphum occiso]" is named in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin [197]. He succeeded his brother in 1071 as BAUDOUIN II Comte de Hainaut et de Valenciennes. By agreement at Liège 1071, procured by Emperor Heinrich IV King of Germany with the aim of confirming the status of the counties of Hainaut and Valenciennes as imperial fiefs, Baudouin's mother (on his behalf) surrendered the two counties to the emperor, who granted them to the bishop of Liège. The bishop then granted the counties to Godefroi III "le Bossu" Duke of Lower Lotharingia, who in turn granted them back to Baudouin and his mother [198]. This process also ensured imperial protection for Hainaut as well as comte Baudouin III's succession, which no doubt would otherwise have been threatened by his uncle Robert I Count of Flanders. "Balduinus, Valenciarum comes, filius Balduini junioris" confirmed the purchase by the abbot of Hasnon of two mills, for the souls of "patris mei Balduini et matris mee Ricildis", by charter dated 1087 [199]. Comte Baudouin joined the contingent of Godefroi de Bouillon Duke of Lower Lotharingia (avoiding that of Robert I Count of Flanders) on the First Crusade in 1096, selling the castle of Couvin to Otbert Bishop of Liège to raise funds. William of Tyre names "Baudoin comte de Hainaut" among those who left on the First Crusade with Robert Count of Flanders [200]. He took part in the siege of Antioch in 1098. He was sent with Hugues Comte de Vermandois on a mission to Emperor Alexios I, but was surprised in a Turkish ambush near Nikaia and disappeared, presumed killed [201]. m (1084) IDA de Louvain, daughter of HENRI [II] Comte de Louvain & his wife Adela [in der Betuwe] (-1139). The Chronicon Huberti names "Ida" wife of "Balduinum comitem Montensem" but does not give her origin [202]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the marriage in 1084 of "Idam filiam Henrici Lovaniensis" and "comes Montensis Balduinus" [203]. Albert of Aix records that "la noble épouse de Baudouin comte de Hainaut" wept bitterly for the death of Arnoul [II] de Oudenarde "ce jeune homme qui l'avait accompagnée dans son voyage de France à Jerusalem", in a passage probably dated to [1104/05] [204]. He does not specify which Baudouin, but it appears more likely that the text refers to the widow of count Baudouin II than to the young wife of count Baudouin III. aner\880643248/nov.2012 Side 10
Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Vlaanderen fortsat If this is correct, it is surprising that the passage does not specify that her husband was dead. On the other hand, the date is early for the marriage of the younger count and in any case no other record has been identified which corroborates that Baudouin III was in Palestine at this time. The report is probably garbled. Comte Baudouin II & his wife had nine children: 1. IDA de Hainaut ([1085]-after [1105]). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "sororem Balduini comitis Hainoensis" as wife of "Thomam de Marla" [205]. The Chronicon Hanoniense refers to a second unnamed sister of "comitis Hainoniensis" who married "Thome de Marla" [206]. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified. m ([1100], repudiated) as his first wife, THOMAS [I] Comte d Amiens, Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle, son of ENGUERRAND [I] Comte d Amiens, Seigneur de Coucy et de Boves & his wife Ada de Marle [Roucy] ([1073]-[1130/31]). 2. [daughter. The Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis names "filio suo [=Gualterus] Teoderico", specifying that he married "sororem Balduini comitis Montensis" [207]. The text does not specify which "Balduini comitis Montensis" is intended. However, if Thierry's date of death is correct as shown above, it is likely that the marriage took place only shortly before this date. If that is correct, then the text most probably refers to Count Baudouin III, who succeeded his father in 1098. According to Europäische Stammtafeln [208], Thierry's wife was Richildis, daughter of Baudouin III Comte de Hainaut, who later married Everard [II] Raoul Châtelain de Tournai. However, this is chronologically impossible (assuming that Thierry did die before 1106) as Baudouin III's marriage is dated to [1107]. m THIERRY d'avesnes Seigneur de Mortagne, son of WAUTIER [I] d'oisy, Seigneur d'avesnes, de Condé et de Leuze & his wife Ade [Ide] de Mortagne (-[before 1106]).] 3. BAUDOUIN de Hainaut (1088-1120). The Chronicon Hanoniense names "primogenitus Balduinus secundus Arnulphus" as sons of "Balduino comiti Hanoniensi" [209]. He succeeded his father in 1098 as BAUDOUIN III Comte de Hainaut. - see below. 4. ARNOUL de Hainaut (-after 1117). The Chronicon Lætiense names "Arnulpho, fratri comitis de Hainau Balduini" and his wife "Beatricem filiam [Waltero de Aat] et Ade [filiam] Eustacii del Rues" [210]. The Chronicon Hanoniense names "primogenitus Balduinus secundus Arnulphus" as sons of "Balduino comiti Hanoniensi" [211]. - SIRES DE RŒULX. 5. LOUIS de Hainaut (-after 1096). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. 1096. 6. SIMON de Hainaut (-after 1096). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Canon in Liege 1096. aner\880643248/nov.2012 Side 11
Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Vlaanderen fortsat 7. HENRI de Hainaut (-after 1096). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. 1096. 8. GUILLAUME de Hainaut (-after 1117). A charter dated 1117 records the donation by "comite Balduino", with the consent of "uxore sua Iola et filio suo Balduino prefati comites fratres Ernulfus et Willelmus", of "allodium de Oberceiis" to the abbey of Saint-Denis en Broqueroie [212]. 9. RICHILDIS de Hainaut ([1095]-after 1118). The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Richeldis" as daughter of "Balduino comitis Hanoniensis" and wife of "comiti Montisforti" [213]. Orderic Vitalis names "Richenda" as wife of Amaury de Montfort, but does not give her origin [214]. m ([1115], divorced 1118) AMAURY [III] Seigneur de Montfort, son of SIMON Seigneur de Montfort-l'Amaury & his third wife Agnès d'evreux (-[18/19] Apr after 1136, bur Abbaye de Haute-Bruyère). He succeeded as Comte d'evreux. 10. AELIDIS de Hainaut (-1153 or after). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "sororem comitis Hainonensium Adelidem nomine" as the second wife of "Nicholaum" [215]. The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Alidis" as daughter of "Balduino comitis Hanoniensis" and wife of "Hugoni de Ruminio" [216], which must be a mistake for "Nicholai". 1153. m as his second wife, NICOLAS [II] Seigneur de Rumigny et de Florennes, son of NICOLAS [I] Seigneur de Florennes & his wife --- (-1153 or after). Noter/Referencer: [195] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560. [196] Guibert II.XII, p. 147. [197] Saint-Bertin I.21, p. 197. [198] D H IV 242, p. 305, and Murray (2002), p. 34. [199] Duvivier (1903), 6, p. 17. [200] WT I.XVII, p. 45. [201] Runciman, S. (1978) A History of the Crusades (Penguin), Vol. 1, p. 250, and Guizot. M. (ed.) (1824) Alberti Aquensis Historia Hierosolymitana 'Histoire des Faits et Gestes dans les regions d'outre-mer par Albert d'aix' (Paris) ( AA ) I.V, p. 269. [202] Chronicon Sancti Huberti Andaginensis 59 (73), MGH SS VIII, p. 598. [203] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1084, MGH SS XXIII, p. 800. [204] AA II.IX, pp. 96-8. [205] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 8, MGH SS XIII, p. 253. [206] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 506. [207] Herimanni, Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis 57, MGH SS XIV, p. 300. [208] ES II 6 and ES III 50. [209] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 505. [210] Chronicon Lætiense 3, MGH SS XIV, p. 494. aner\880643248/nov.2012 Side 12
Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Vlaanderen fortsat [211] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 505. [212] Duvivier (1903), 9, p. 24. [213] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 505. [214] Chibnall, M. (ed. and trans.) The Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis (Oxford Medieval Texts, 1969-80), Vol. III, Book V, p. 189. [215] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 10, MGH SS XIII, p. 254. [216] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 505. [217] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 505. aner\880643248/nov.2012 Side 13
Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Vlaanderen fortsat http://fmg.ac/projects/medlands/brabant,%20louvain.htm#idalouvaind ied1139 BRABANT & LOUVAIN Chapter 2. COMTES de LOUVAIN HENRI de Louvain (-[1078/79], bur Nivelles) m ADELHEID, daughter of EBERHARD Graaf van Betuwe en Teisterbant & his wife --- (-after 1086). c) IDA de Louvain (-1139). The Chronicon Huberti names "Ida" wife of "Balduinum comitem Montensem" but does not give her origin [76]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the marriage in 1084 of "Idam filiam Henrici Lovaniensis" and "comes Montensis Balduinus" [77]. Albert of Aix records that "la noble épouse de Baudouin comte de Hainaut" wept bitterly for the death of Arnoul [II] de Oudenaarde "ce jeune homme qui l'avait accompagnée dans son voyage de France à Jerusalem", in a passage probably dated to [1104/05] [78]. He does not specify which Baudouin, but it appears more likely that the text refers to the widow of count Baudouin II than to the young wife of count Baudouin III. If this is correct, it is surprising that the passage does not specify that her husband was dead. On the other hand, the date is early for the marriage of the younger count and in any case no other record has been identified which corroborates that Baudouin III was in Palestine at this time. The report is probably garbled. m (1084) BAUDOUIN II Comte de Hainaut, son of BAUDOUIN VI Count of Flanders, BAUDOUIN I Comte de Hainaut & his wife Richilde de Mons Ctss de Hainaut ([1056]-killed near Nikaia 1098 after 8 Jun). Noter/Referencer: [75] Chronicon Affligemense 4, MGH SS IX, p. 408. [76] Chronicon Sancti Huberti Andaginensis 59 (73), MGH SS VIII, p. 598. [77] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1084, MGH SS XXIII, p. 800. [78] Guizot. M. (ed.) (1824) Alberti Aquensis Historia Hierosolymitana 'Histoire des Faits et Gestes dans les regions d'outre -mer par Albert d'aix' (Paris) ( AA ) II, IX, pp. 96-8. [79] Gesta Abbatum Trudonensium 17, MGH SS X, p. 304. aner\880643248/nov.2012 Side 14
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