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BAIL BOND BOARD MEETING 0 THOSE PRESENT: Judge Branick Judge Woods Judge West Judge Lively Lt. Mills Pat Knauth Casi DeLaTorre Theresa Goodness Tim Funchess Keith Day Mary Godina Liz Parks Glenda Segura Rhonda Brode TIM FUNCHESS: Judge Dollinger had a jury trial starting at :0; so he asked me to chair this meeting. I'm going to call the meeting to order; and the first thing on the agenda is the review of the minutes from last meeting. Those have been posted on the website. If anybody has had a chance to read those, I did. I'll take a motion to accept the minutes? JUDGE WEST: So moved. TIM FUNCHESS: Moved.

0 PAT KNAUTH: Seconded. TIM FUNCHESS: Seconded. All in favor? (RESPONSE.) TIM FUNCHESS: Opposed? (NONE.) TIM FUNCHESS: Next, we have a report from the district attorney's office regarding the status of collections and judgments. Any comments or questions on that? (NONE.) TIM FUNCHESS: We'll enter that into the record. We also have consideration and approval of applications to become bondsmen for agents and renewals. I know we have one application here. Anybody want to -- Theresa, you going to speak on this? THERESA GOODNESS: Well, I was going to point out a couple of things. Becky, I think, sent everybody an e-mail with the copy of the application. A couple of her points on this e-mail is that an exhibit -- Exhibit B -- -- the business address listed in the DBA is different than the business address provided in Exhibit located in the personal financial statement. On Exhibit she lists an account, checking account with her mom; and there's an amount in there;

0 but that -- that account went down to as low as $.. And my understanding after reading through the application is that there is some property that she's saying she wants to put up as collateral, but I don't really see any other -- you know, it doesn't look to me like Ms. Francois has a lot of money in the bank to pay for any judgments that might come due. I know we can always take the property if we have to. When I look at the personal financial statement, most everything has and N/A on here. Even -- it doesn't even -- says she doesn't have a car. So, I'm not sure if it's a problem understanding how to fill out the form or -- or what it is. But basically she's got cash on hand in banks is $.. Doesn't show any debts. It doesn't show any other moneys; and that the bank statement we got basically showed that that account went down to $. at some point during the month; and it's jointly held with her mother. So, I have some concerns that this applicant has the financial resources to pay any judgments that might come due. TIM FUNCHESS: Is the property listed in her name? THERESA GOODNESS: The property's listed in her name. She has one piece of property.

0 RHONDA BRODE: What's the value of it? THERESA GOODNESS: I think it was like $,000, one piece of property in Port Arthur, Lot, Block, Park Place, Port Arthur. JUDGE LIVELY: For what it's worth, too, didn't Becky say in the e-mail that whenever that first financial was filled out, she left it blank; and Becky had to go back and tell her to fill it in; and that's when the N/A's came in. So she had some guidance, even, on that; and still chose to put "not applicable" to her. THERESA GOODNESS: Right. TIM FUNCHESS: Well, Theresa, what's you-all recommendation? THERESA GOODNESS: Well, I would have to vote no because I feel like we would not be doing this applicant a favor by approving this application. And I feel like we would -- she would be upside down in a hurry. TIM FUNCHESS: Any other comments? RHONDA BRODE: Just to clarify, a new bail bondsman would get what, five times the collateral? JUDGE BRANICK: Looks like it's ten times. RHONDA BRODE: Ten times once -- THERESA GOODNESS: After renewal. RHONDA BRODE: Yeah -- after the first --

0 JUDGE BRANICK: After renewal? RHONDA BRODE: -- renewal. I think it's only five times. KEITH DAY: Five to one on property. RHONDA BRODE: Okay. So -- we're looking at $00,000 potential debt to the county. THERESA GOODNESS: Right. That's my concern as well. RHONDA BRODE: It concerns me. JUDGE WEST: It's a concern to me, too. TIM FUNCHESS: I'll entertain a motion one way or the other. THERESA GOODNESS: I move to reject the application because there's not enough -- there's not enough financial backing here for this applicant to pay any judgments that come due. JUDGE LIVELY: I second that. TIM FUNCHESS: Okay. All in favor to reject? (RESPONSE.) TIM FUNCHESS: Opposed? (NONE.) TIM FUNCHESS: Okay. The application is rejected. JUDGE BRANICK: I had a question on this

0 Steven Wohr on the attorneys. He's over his bond limit. What do we do about that? RHONDA BRODE: I'm sorry, let me look at that, Judge. JUDGE BRANICK: W-O-H-R. RHONDA BRODE: I don't know. I don't know. JUDGE BRANICK: I know the other man is deceased. RHONDA BRODE: Uh-huh. Michael Lindsey is also over on the unpaid forfeitures. The report that I get, I also like to come into this meeting and question the county clerk and the district clerk and have Tina look it up, kind of ask the others to look at this report and say, can you look at my concerns and see if that's what you're seeing in the computer? Could my report be off, what I'm pulling from the computer? But it's been like that for a while on these. MARY GODINA: I'll look him up, that Steven. RHONDA BRODE: It's all the highlighted ones on the attorneys. MARY GODINA: Okay. RHONDA BRODE: Steven Wohr, Michael Lindsey. I'm going to go ahead and skip -- go ahead and address the one other concern?

0 TIM FUNCHESS: That's fine. RHONDA BRODE: Audwin Samuel, his status says over; but he doesn't have any open balances on my report. Can you check to see if there's a reason? MARY GODINA: And that status comes from the computer? RHONDA BRODE: Uh-huh. MARY GODINA: I don't know if that's a real status. RHONDA BRODE: I've had it before, when they were over their limit. I've seen it before. MARY GODINA: I'll check it. RHONDA BRODE: Okay. Thank you, Judge. We'll get back with you once I find out. JUDGE BRANICK: Thank you. TIM FUNCHESS: All right. We've got to consider complaints against bondsmen? MARY GODINA: Well, I had the complaint Becky had filed against Gary Leach from last time. I tried to get ahold of Mr. Roebuck, which has been very unsuccessful, because we all know why. But he has a copy of the complaint. I have not been able to get ahold of him. So Gary Leach has not been contacted, because Mr. Roebuck is usually the one that sends the letter. So, I don't know what we as the board want to

0 do; if we want to go ahead and draft a letter, or -- I don't know when we'll get ahold of Roebuck. KEITH DAY: Leave a message telling him you've got a check for him, maybe he'll call you back. TIM FUNCHESS: He'll be in Saratoga Saturday night. What's the board's consensus? You want to wait until next month's meeting and see if we can get ahold of Roebuck? MARY GODINA: I have left probably messages for him; and -- I e-mailed him. JUDGE WEST: It's kind of a form letter that goes out? Do we have that? MARY GODINA: No, he usually just does the letter. I have left messages with his secretary. I've called her two or three times, told her what the concern was; that we had a complaint. We need for him to give us some guidance one way or the other. I have talked to her and told her, but I haven't heard from him at all. JUDGE WEST: But doesn't the letter just say: You're notified that there's a complaint? MARY GODINA: Well, he puts all this legal mumbo-jumbo stuff in there, so. JUDGE WEST: Do you have a copy of what was filed previously on other complaints?

0 MARY GODINA: I have the one from Barbara Hart, that he did to Barbara Hart. JUDGE WEST: Like the very initial one that he did maybe? MARY GODINA: Uh-huh. JUDGE BRANICK: If you'll get me a copy of the complaint and the previous letter he's done, I'll do it. MARY GODINA: Okay. TIM FUNCHESS: All right. I have passed out my treasurer's report. I'll -- I don't think there were any changes from last month regarding collateral. And we've heard from the auditor's office. Anything else to add to that, Rhonda? RHONDA BRODE: No, sir. TIM FUNCHESS: Anybody have any old business they'd like to bring up? New business. (NONE.) TIM FUNCHESS: If not, I hear a motion to adjourn? JUDGE LIVELY: I make said motion. TIM FUNCHESS: Second? JUDGE BRANICK: Second. TIM FUNCHESS: We're adjourned. (END OF HEARING)