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A Metropolitan Atlanta Masonic Newsletter newsi@imorelighti.iorg In This Issue 1- Davo Digresses, Area News & DCMA Report 2- Old Tyler Talks: To Wait How Long? 3- List of Special Events & Trophy Roundup 4- Calendar of Regular Atlanta Communications 5- Masonic Ed.: Appendant Bodies 6- Old Tyler Bonus: On Being Asked to Join Davo Digresses: Side Orders David Herman, PM, Chamblee-Sardis 444 District Deputy to the Grand Master You may have noticed that I have elected to include two Old Tyler Talks again this month. I couldn t decide which Old Tyler Talk to include (and was running out of time to come up with another article of my own), so there you have it. And they each tied in so well with this month s theme, Appendant Bodies. I hope that you continue to enjoy these reprinted articles as much as I do. There is a lot of wisdom in those words. I actually get thanked for including them more than any other regular feature, so rest assured that they ll be around for a good long time. 5 th District Notices Worshipful Masters of the 5 th District, I hope that you have already sent in any submissions for the district s Lodge and Mason of the Year awards. The deadline for these was 1 August. Remember that Saturday, 23 August will be the Rock Quarry Conferral at Morganton, and Sunday, 24 August will be the District Family Day activities at Wills Park in Alpharetta. You should receive more information in the mail if you haven t already. Please mark your calendars for the District Convention, which will be held on Saturday, 13 September, at 9:00 am at Palmetto Daylight 755. It would be great to see a representative from every district lodge present to show support. Grand Lodge Approaches Don t forget that October is just around the corner. Those of us not fortunate enough to be retired should start making plans to be present. August, 2008 Appendant Bodies http://news.morelight.org DeKalb County Masonic Association Report DCMA This Month Join us at Panthersville 543 on Tuesday, 19 August; 6:30 meal and 7:30 meeting. The program has not yet been announced. Located at 3605 Union Church Road, Stockbridge. Panthersville Lodge is just little bit north of Stockbridge Highway. Panthersville s beautiful facility is barely inside of the DeKalb County line - although actually meeting in the county is NOT a requirement for DCMA membership! DCMA Next Month Next month s meeting will be hosted by Tucker 42 on Monday, 22 September; 6:30 meal and 7:30 meeting. Next month s program has not yet been announced. Located at 3605 Union Church Road, Stockbridge, Panthersville Lodge is just little bit north of Stockbridge Highway. DCMA Last Month If you missed our last meeting, you missed a great time. Bagpipes, Kilts and Haggis for everyone (who was brave enough) were the central feature of the program hosted by Clarkston 492, with help from Gate City 2. Afterwards, an EA exam was held in lodge. If only someone had sent pictures... DCMA This Year President: Mike Wilson, Lithonia 84 & EA Minor 603 mikew @ morelight. org or 770 482 3338 1st VP: David Herman, Chamblee-Sardis 444 & Internet 9659, EC davidi@imorelighti.iorg or 404142115297 2nd VP: Ray Skiles, Glenwood Hills 703 rays @ morelight. org or 678 313 0802 Sec/Treas: Bill Eleazer, Glenwood Hills 703 bille @ morelight.org or 770 922 5412 The DCMA Determined to Cover Masonry in Atlanta! We d like for your lodge to join us - ask one of us how. Standard Disclaimer This publication is created to inform the brethren. Any views or opinions that manage to sneak in are solely those of the editor, who does NOT speak for any organization whatsoever. Really. Where s News? We d be honored to support the community by publishing your news and events all you have to do is let us know by emailing newsi@imorelighti.iorg with all the information you d like listed.

Old Tiler Talks by Carl H. Claudy PGM, District of Columbia To Wait How Long? "Old Tiler," began the New Brother, "do you think I ought to be a Chapter Mason and a Commandery Mason and a Scottish Rite Mason right away?" "That's a rather large question," objected the Old Tiler. "Why do you ask?" "I xxxx am constantly asked to join these bodies," answered the New Brother. "It seems to me I ought to wait until I know more about Masonry before I go farther." "I agree with you," answered the Old Tiler, heartily. "You just said it was too large a question to answer right off," cried the New Brother. "That was before you told me how you felt," countered the Old Tiler. "No man should go farther in Masonry as long as he feels he should wait. But if you had said that your interest was flagging, and that you wanted to go ahead and explore, to refind the thrill of the third degree, I would probably have told you I agreed with you heartily." "Seems to me," answered the New Brother, "that the Grand Lodge might profitably make a rule that no Master Mason could apply for the degrees in any other Masonic body until they have been Master Masons for six months or a year. "You are not the only, or the first Mason, to think that," answered the Old Tiler. "But that is a very large question indeed, and much can be said on both sides." "Won't you tell me both sides?" asked the New Brother. "I'll try," answered the Old Tiler. "The Grand Lodge side of it is simple enough; it is obvious that if there were only the three degrees of Ancient Craft Masonry a man could not divide his attention, his money, and his time with them and any other Masonic bodies. But we have Capitular degrees and Commandery degrees and Cryptic degrees; and Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite degrees, and the Shrine; while the Shrine is not a Masonic body, yet it is a goal for many Masons, so it enters into the problem. Those who propose that Grand Lodge forbid newly made Master Masons applying for the degrees in Chapter or Rite until after a lapse of a year, have in mind that if a man has only his lodge to go to, he will learn some Masonry, get the habit, and so, when he does take the other degrees, he will not forget his Alma Mater. "Those who think the Grand Lodge should not make such a regulation, often believe that it should be made by the other bodies. Such Masons think that Capitular Masonry and Scottish Rite Masonry would be stronger and better if they refused any candidates who had not at least a year's experience in the Symbolic lodge. A xxxxxxx college demands certain scholastic standards xxxxxxx of its freshmen. Many demand a high school xxxxxxx diploma, or its equivalent. A college has a right to say on what terms it will accept students. But the high school never says 'you mustn't apply to the college without a high school diploma.' The high school doesn't attempt to tell the college what it must or must not do, or who it can and cannot have as freshmen. It but prepares those willing to study to enter to the college. It is the college which won't take the unprepared. "Many Masons will feel that the so-called 'higher' degrees are a sort of college course to Masonry, and that the bodies which confer those degrees should demand at least a year's experience in Blue Lodge Masonry, but can see no reason why the Grand Lodge should keep their doors for them. "No well-informed Mason sees the lodge as a primary school and the other Rites as colleges. No wellinformed Mason but regards Ancient Craft Masonry as the source of all Masonry, to be honored above all others. A real comparison perhaps could be made with a country and citizenship. Citizenship in this nation is a very high estate. Yet some citizens know more statecraft than others and become leaders in the legislature, the cabinet, the law, the diplomatic service. They could do none of these things without being citizens. The United States demands a certain period- I think it is five years- which a 'candidate' for citizenship must wait, before he receives his 'third degree,' his final papers. Until he gets them, he cannot be a citizen or enjoy the rights of citizenship, or go higher in the State, or be an officer. That is like the lodge demand of a month between degrees, and a proficiency in the work before the next degree is conferred. "The United States doesn't say to a newly-made citizen 'now that you are a citizen, you must wait a year or two before you exercise your citizenship.' Our Grand Lodge does not say to a Blue Lodge Mason 'you must wait a year before you try to be an officer or before you apply for any other degrees.' Yet there are those who would have Grand Lodge do just that. "There are two sides, my brother. Personally, I would think that a period of waiting would be an excellent thing. I would like to see the Grand Chapters and the Supreme Council decide that a Master Mason must be such for six months or a year before he could apply, just as they now demand six months' or a years' residence in a place before they will admit jurisdiction. But I think a Grand Lodge is less than wise if it attempts to regulate the so-called 'high bodies' in their standards." "I thought Grand Lodge could do anything," put in the New Brother. "So it can, very nearly," smiled the Old Tiler. "I did not say I thought a Grand Lodge would be going beyond its rights in making such a regulation. I said I thought it would be unwise. The Grand Lodge has complete control of a man's Masonry and his Masonic conduct. Its right to regulate is undoubted; its wisdom in doing so may be open to discussion." "Well, I'm going to wait a while; but not a year," responded the New Brother. "Which will be just right, for you," smiled the xxxxxxx Old Tiler. Work & Lectures August, 2008 ~ p 6 of 6

List of Special Events August, 2008 3 Aug, Sun Blood Drive AA (Ahavath Achim) Synagogue, Atlanta; sponsored by Fulton 216. Call for times. 5 Aug, Tue Entered Apprentice Conferral Palmetto 74, Palmetto. 6:30 meal, 7:30 meeting. 9 Aug, Sat Workday at the Chidlren s Home Districts 1, 4, 9 and 12. 7:00 am registration, 8:00 am work, noon lunch. 9 Aug, Sat Gwinnett County Masonic Association Gwinnett Daylight 744, noon lunch, open meeting follows. 9 Aug, Sat 50 Year Awards Campbellton 76, Campbellton. 6:30 meal, 7:30 meeting. 12 Aug, Tue Entered Apprentice Conferral Jonesboro 87, Jonesboro. 6:30 meal, 7:30 meeting. 16 Aug, Sat Tournament of Champions Blue Lodge lecture and ritual proficiency competition, sponsored by the Valley of Atlanta; starts 9:00 am, Atlanta Masonic Center. 16 Aug, Sat 4 th Masonic District Convention Hosted by Carroll 69, Carrollton. 10:00 am start. 19 Aug, Tue DeKalb County Masonic Association Panthersville 543, Stockbridge. 6:30 meal, 7:30 open meeting. 23 Aug, Sat Rock Quarry Degree Morganton, GA; hosted by Mineral Bluff 483. Noon BBQ at the spring. 24 Aug, Sun 5 th District Family Picnic Wills Park, Alpharetta, GA; hosted by Alpharetta 235. Starts at 11:00 am. 1 Sep, Mon GACHIP Event at Hunter Park, Douglasville, 9:00 5:00. Hosted by Douglassville 289. 6 Sep, Sat GACHIP Event at the new Courthouse, Douglasville, 9:00 5:00. Hosted by Douglassville 289. 6 Sep, Sat Pancake Breakfast Stone Mountain 449, Stone Mountain. 7:30 to 10:30 am. 7 Sep, Sun BBQ Lunch Lithonia 84, Lithonia. 11:00 am to 2:00 pm. 9 Sep, Tue GM Visit Jonesboro 87, Jonesboro. 6:30 meal, 7:30 meeting. 13 Sep, Sat 5 th Masonic District Convention Hosted by Palmetto Daylight 755. 10:00 am start. 13 Sep, Sat GACHIP Event at the new Courthouse, Douglasville, 9:00 5:00. Hosted by Douglassville 289. 13 Sep, Sat BBQ Fundraiser Lawrenceville 131, Lawrenceville. 11:00 7:00, all you can eat. 13 Sep, Sat The Traitor 20 th Anniversary presentation, Atlanta Masonic Center, $10.00 per seat (fees go to help fund the restoration and preservation of the Scottish Rite backdrops). 15 Sep, Mon Gwinnett County Masonic Association Snellville 99, Snellville. 6:30 meal, 7:30 open meeting. 22 Sep, Mon DeKalb County Masonic Association Tucker 42, Tucker. 6:30 meal, 7:30 open meeting. Traveling Trophy Roundup 4 th District SW of Atlanta 5 th District Includes Atlanta 6 th District South of Atlanta Carroll 69 Traveling Gavel : Carroll 69, Carrollton Bowdon 206 Traveling Gavel : Temple 322, Temple Buck Creek 639 Traveling Gavel : Buck Creek 639, Carrollton Tyus 671 Traveling Gavel : Tyus 671, Tyus 5 th District Traveling Gavel : Gate City 2, Atlanta Clarkston 492 Traveling Gavel : Gate City 2, Atlanta Roswell 165 Traveling Gavel: Roswell 165, Roswell Jonesboro 87 Traveling Gavel : Meridian Sun 26, Griffin Rex 251 Traveling Gavel : Rex 251, Ellenwood East Point 288 Traveling Gavel : Mickey Fuller 720, Bryon Lakewood 443 Traveling Hat : Hapeville 590, Hapeville 9 th District NE of Atlanta Gwinnett County Donkey : Mountain Park 729, Stone Mtn. 5 th District Gavel rules at http://5dist.morelight.org/ Clarkston 492 Gavel rules at http://www.clarkston492.com/ Work & Lectures August, 2008 ~ p 3 of 6

Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Schedule of Regular Communications for Lodges meeting within about 10 miles of I-285 and/or in DeKalb Co. All meetings start at 7:30 pm unless otherwise noted. Fifth District Lodges DeKalb County Masonic Association Lodges (part of the Fifth District) Nearby Lodges of the Sixth, Seventh and Ninth Districts 1 Saturday 2 Samuel S. Lawrence 721 5 th District Family Day 3 Snellville 99 Stone Mountain 449 Union City 600 10 11 Tucker 42 Philologia 178 Flint Hill 371 Piedmont 447 College Park 454 Hapeville 590 17 18 Snellville 99 Stone Mountain 449 Union City 600 24 25 31 Tucker 42 Philologia 178 Flint Hill 371 Piedmont 447 College Park 454 Hapeville 590 4 Latham 12 Kennesaw 33 Palmetto 74 Norcross 228 East Point 288 Masters 295 Forest Park 399 Panthersville 543 Capitol City 642 North DeKalb 714 Metro Daylight 743, 10:30 am Gate City 2 Sandy Springs 124 Springville 153 Fairburn 180, 7:00 pm Alpharetta 235 Clarkston 492 E. A. Minor 603 Ben Hill 674 Latham 12 Kennesaw 33 Palmetto 74 Georgia 96 Norcross 228 Masters 295 Forest Park 399 Panthersville 543 Capitol City 642 Sandy Springs 124 Springville 153 Fairburn 180, 7:00 pm Alpharetta 235 Clarkston 492 DeKalb CMA E. A. Minor 603 Ben Hill 674 5 Fulton 216 DeKalb Masonic Memorial Club at Clarkston 492, 2 pm Gwinnett Daylight 742, noon 6 7 8 9 12 13 14 15 James E. Sledge Daylight 742, 11:00 am Pythagoras 41 Mountain Park 729 Atlanta-Peachtree 59 Lithonia 84 Mableton 171 Douglasville 289 Bolton 416 Sweetwater 421 Chamblee-Sardis 444 Zingara 519 Palestine 486, 7:00 pm Grant Park 604 Capitol View 640 19 20 21 22 23 Southside Memorial Assn. (location varies), 6:30 pm Pythagoras 41 Roswell 165 Mountain Park 729 Charity Daylight 754, 10:30 am Lithonia 84 Mableton 171 Bolton 416 Douglasville 289 C-S 444 Sweetwater 421 Zingara 519 Palestine 486, 7:00 pm Capitol View 640 Work & Lectures August, 2008 ~ p 4 of 6 Rex 251 Leroy Duncan 262 Glenwood Hills 703 Campbellton 76, 8:00 pm Nelms 323 Palmetto Daylight 755, 8:00 am Samuel S. Lawrence 721 Tournament of Champions 16 Campbellton 76, 8:00 pm Nelms 323 Palmetto Daylight 755, 8:00 am Rock Quarry Conferral 26 27 28 29 30

Appendant Bodies, Affiliated Orders, and Adoptive Rites of the US Scottish Rite Work & Lectures August, 2008 ~ p 5 of 6

Old Tiler Talks by Carl H. Claudy PGM, District of Columbia On Being Asked to Join "I think it's an outrage," announced the New Brother with great emphasis, talking to the Old Tiler. "Sure xxxx it is!" answered the Old Tiler. "Why don't you have it stopped, then?" "I dunno, what is it?" "You just agreed with me it was an outrage. And now you don't know what it is!" "No, I do not. But I am wise enough to agree with outof-temper brethren. Then they don't get out of temper with me. So suppose you tell me what is an outrage?" "All these brethren who try to get me to join things! Ever since I was raised they have been after me. Jones wants me to join his Chapter and Smith says as soon as I do I must come in his Council, and Robinson wants me in his Commandery and Jackson says I mustn't think of going York but must go Scottish Rite, and Brown tells of what he is going to have done to me when I join the Shrine, and Peters wants me to become a Veiled Prophet and Lem says I mustn't forget the Tall Cedars, and old Jerry tells me he'll never let up on me until I join the Eastern Star... it makes me ill." "You sure do get sick easily," answered the Old Tiler. "But I'll attend to it. Tomorrow I will see to it that at least ten brethren tell you you are not good enough for the Chapter, not wise enough to join the council, not brainy enough for the Rite, not sincere enough for the Commandery, not a good enough sport to stand the Grotto, Tall Cedars or Shrine initiation and not decent enough to join the woman's organization. That'll fix it all right and you can be well again." "Hey, wait a minute! What do you mean, I am not decent enough for the women or good enough sport to stand the Shrine? I'm perfectly decent and as good a sport as-" "Gently, gently! I did not say you were not- I said I'd arrange with a lot of brethren to tell you you were not." "But why?" "You get peeved when they tell you the other thing- I thought that was what you wanted." "Our wires are crossed somewhere!" "No, it is you who are cross and therefore not able to see straight," snapped the Old Tiler. You say it's an outrage that many brethren invite you to join with xxxxxxxx them. What is there outrageous about it? xxxxxxxx The brother who wants you in his Chapter sees in you good material out of which to make a Companion. The Knight who wants you in his Commandery thinks you will grace its uniform, live up to its high standards, conform to its usages. The brother who would like to have you in the Scottish Rite thinks you have brains enough to appreciate its philosophic degrees and believes that Albert Pike had such as you in mind when he wrote 'Morals and Dogma.' The Noble or the Veiled Prophet who asks you to come with him thinks you are a good sport, able to be the butt of a joke for a while that others may laugh, and that you may, in turn, enjoy the antics of others. They all take you for a regular fellow. When you are asked to join the Eastern Star a great compliment is paid you- you are selected as a man fit to associate with fine women; you are accepted as a gentleman as well as a Mason, a man women will be proud to know. That is your outrage!" "I never looked at it in that way. Masons do not ask others to join with Masons in Masonry and I suppose I thought- I felt-" "You didn't think; you just thought you thought." The Old Tiler was smiling now. "Think again. There is every reason why Masonry should not ask the profane to be of it. Masonry is bigger than any man. It never seeks; it must be sought. But once a Mason the matter is different. The lodge has investigated you. You were found not wanting by your fellows. Why wouldn't your brother ask you to join another organization in which he is interested and which he thinks will interest you?" "Well, but-" "There is no 'but' which fits! There are many Masonic organizations, each filling its place. Chapter, Council, and Commandery extend the symbolic lodge story. The Scottish Rite tells it to the end in another way. Shrine, Grotto and Tall Cedars are happy places where Masons play. The Eastern Star practices charity, benevolence, kindness, the gentler side of life. None duplicate; all have work to do. The better the workers, the better the work. It is no outrage that they pay toy the compliment of asking you to join with them." "But I haven't the time; I don't know if I could afford it." "That is another story. All these organizations cannot make you more a Mason than you are now, but they might make you a better one. Whether you have the time or the means needed is your affair. It would indeed be an outrage if any one questioned you about that. These brethren who ask you to join with them think you have leisure enough to be a better Mason and of sufficient means to indulge that laudable ambition." "Oh, of course, you are right and I am wrong, as usual. I guess I'm a-" "A Mason," suggested the Old Tiler, gently. "And a prospective, Companion, Knight or whatever it is they will call me when I join the Scottish xxxxxxxxx Rite and all the rest!" Work & Lectures August, 2008 ~ p 2 of 6