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SPR2011: THE6110 DEBATE OUTLINE Leonard O Goenaga SEBTS, THE6110 Theology I Dr. Hammett DEBATE: YOUNG AND OLD EARTH CREATIONISM OUTLINE

Goenaga 2 TABLE OF CONTENTS I. INTRODUCTION...3 A. HOOK...3 B. THESIS...3 II. BACKGROUND: REVELATIONIST...3 A. THE ISSUE...3 B. MAJOR SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FOR NON-LITERAL DAYS, AND ISSUES WE WON T TALK ABOUT...3 C. BURDEN OF PROOF: PROBLEMS WITH HISTORY...3 III. PROBLEMS WITH SCRIPTURE...3 A. P1: GENESIS IS HISTORY, NOT POETRY, PARABLE, PROPHETIC VISION, OR MYTHOLOGY....3 B. P2: CONTEXTUAL AND DOMINANT MEANING OF YOM SUPPORT YEC...4 C. P3: EXODUS 20:8-11 RESISTS ALL ATTEMPTS TO ADD MILLIONS OF YEARS ANYWHERE IN OR BEFORE GENESIS AND SO SUPPORTS YEC...4 D. P4: JESUS AS A YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST SUPPORTS YEC...4 E. P5: JESUS AS CREATOR SUPPORTS YEC...4 F. C: THUS, SCRIPTURE SUPPORTS A YEC PERSPECTIVE...5 IV. PROBLEMS WITH THE OEC AND THE FALL, DEATH, AND DISEASE...5 A. P1: CREATION IS GOOD...5 B. P2: THE FALL; MANKIND CURSED...5 C. P4: ANIMALS CURSED...5 D. P5: THE GROUND IS CURSED...5 E. P6: PROMISED REDEMPTION...5 F. P7: THORNS; GOD LIED?...6 G. P8: DISEASE; VERY GOOD?...6 H. C: THUS, AN OLD EARTH CREATIONISM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH A BIBLICAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE FALL, DEATH, AND DISEASE...6 V. PROBLEMS WITH OEC AND GOD S NATURE...6 A. P1: OAC ROBS GOD OF HIS UNIQUENESS...6 B. P2: OAC ROBS GOD OF HIS CONSISTENCY...6 C. P3: OAC ROBS GOD OF HIS HOLINESS AND OMNIPOTENCE...6 D. P4: OAC ROBS GOD OF HIS TRUSTFULNESS...7 E. P5: OAC ROBS GOD OF HIS GOODNESS...7 F. C: THUS, AN OLD EARTH CREATIONISM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH GOD S BIBLICAL NATURE BY ROBBING HIM OF THE VERY CHARACTERISTIC THAT MAKE HIM GOD....7 VI. CONCLUSION...7 A. CLOSE...7

Goenaga 3 THESIS I. INTRODUCTION A. HOOK B. THESIS II. BACKGROUND: REVELATIONIST A. THE ISSUE i. OLD EARTH CREATIONISM 1. From a superficial reading of Genesis 1, the impression would seem to be that the entire creative process took place in six twenty-four-hour days. If this was the true intent of the Hebrew author this seems to run counter to modern scientific research, which indicates that the planet Earth was created several billion years ago. Gleason Archer, A Survey of Old Testament Introduction, ii. YOUNG EARTH CREATIONISM (REVELATIONIST) 1. the issue is not young Earth versus old Earth, but this: Can fallible, sinful man be in authority over the Word of God? 2. Outside the text? B. MAJOR SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FOR NON-LITERAL DAYS, AND ISSUES WE WON T TALK ABOUT i. STARLIGHT TRAVEL ii. RADIOMETRIC DATING METHODS iii. GEOLOGICAL FEATURES iv. THE FLOOD v. GENEALOGY C. BURDEN OF PROOF: PROBLEMS WITH HISTORY i. CHURCH ORTHODOXY: YOUNG EARTH CREATIONISM 1. CHURCH FATHERS (AD 100-600) 2. MEDIEVAL THEOLOGIANS 3. REFORMATION 4. ENLIGHTENMENT a. Not until the Enlightenment did professing Christians begin to reinterpret Genesis to fit with alleged scientific proofs of an old earth. III. PROBLEMS WITH SCRIPTURE A. P1: GENESIS IS HISTORY, NOT POETRY, PARABLE, PROPHETIC VISION, OR MYTHOLOGY. i. Genesis 1-11 has the same characteristics of historical narratives as in Gn 12-50, most of Exodus, much of Numbers, Joshua, 1 and 2 Kings, etc.

Goenaga 4 B. P2: CONTEXTUAL AND DOMINANT MEANING OF YOM SUPPORT YEC i. DOMINANT USAGE OF YOM 1. The Hebrew word for day in Genesis 1 is yom. In the vast majority of its uses in the Old Testament it means a literal day; and where it doesn t, the context makes this clear. ii. YOM IN CONTEXT 1. The context of Genesis 1 clearly shows that the days of creation were literal days. a. First, yom is defined the first time it is used in the Bible (Genesis 1:4 5) in its two literal senses: the light portion of the light/dark cycle and the whole light/dark cycle. b. Second, yom is used with evening and morning. Everywhere these two words are used in the Old Testament, either together or separately and with or without yom in the context, they always mean a literal evening or morning of a literal day. c. Third, yom is modified with a number: one day, second day, third day, etc., which everywhere else in the Old Testament indicates literal days. d. Fourth, yom is defined literally in Genesis 1:14 in relation to the heavenly bodies. iii. USE OF YOM INSTEAD OF OLAM iv. DR. JAMES BARR (REGIUS PROFESSOR OF HEBREW AT OXFORD), DOES NOT BELIEVE GENESIS AS TRUE HISTORY 1. there is no professor of Hebrew or Old Testament at any world-class university who does not believe that the writer(s) of Gen. 1 11 C. P3: EXODUS 20:8-11 RESISTS ALL ATTEMPTS TO ADD MILLIONS OF YEARS ANYWHERE IN OR BEFORE GENESIS AND SO SUPPORTS YEC i. Yom is used in both parts of the commandment. If God meant that the Jews were to work six days because He created over six long periods of time, He could have said that using one of three indefinite Hebrew time words. He chose the only word that means a literal day, and the Jews understood it literally (until the idea of millions of years developed in the early nineteenth century). D. P4: JESUS AS A YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST SUPPORTS YEC i. Jesus consistently treated the miracle accounts of the Old Testament as straightforward, truthful, historical accounts (e.g., creation of Adam, Noah and the Flood, Lot and his wife in Sodom, Moses and the manna, and Jonah in the fish). ii. In Mark 10:6 He teaches that Adam and Eve were made at the beginning of creation, not billions of years after the beginning. 1. But from the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female. (Mk 10:6) E. P5: JESUS AS CREATOR SUPPORTS YEC i. His miracles also better reflect the young-earth creation perspective. ii. God said let there be light, and there was light. iii. With his miracles (e.g., Matthew 8:23 27, Mark 1:40 42), His spoken word brought an immediate, instantaneous result, just as God s word did in Creation Week.

Goenaga 5 iv. New Matter is created. F. C: THUS, SCRIPTURE SUPPORTS A YEC PERSPECTIVE IV. PROBLEMS WITH THE OEC AND THE FALL, DEATH, AND DISEASE A. P1: CREATION IS GOOD i. Simply put, the evolutionary idea of millions of years is diametrically opposed to the Bible s teaching about death. ii. The biblical teaching on death is very clear and consistent from Genesis to Revelation. Genesis 1 says six times that God called the creation good. When He finished creation on Day 6, He called everything very good. iii. That very good state is reflected partially by the fact that man, animals, and birds were originally vegetarian according to Genesis 1:29 30. B. P2: THE FALL; MANKIND CURSED i. Adam and Eve sinned, resulting in the judgment of God on the whole creation. Instantly Adam and Eve died spiritually, but they also began to die physically and Paul clearly had physical death in mind in Romans 5:12 and 1 Corinthians 15:21 22 when he says that death came into the human race through Adam s sin. 1. 12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned (Rm 5:12) C. P4: ANIMALS CURSED i. The serpent was cursed, along with other animals, resulting in a physical transformation. ii. It is reasonable to assume that the other cursed animals were also altered physically in some way, either morphologically or at least behaviorally (Genesis 3:14). D. P5: THE GROUND IS CURSED i. And the ground itself was cursed (Genesis 3:17 19), a fact which was still on the minds of people 1,000 years later when Noah was born (Genesis 5:29). E. P6: PROMISED REDEMPTION i. The whole creation now groans in bondage to corruption waiting for redemption. ii. When that redemptive event happens, we will see the restoration and redemption of all things (Acts 3:21 and Colossians 1:20) to a state similar to the pre-fall world. iii. Then there will be no more carnivorous behavior (Isaiah 11:6 9) and no disease, suffering, or death (Revelation 21:3 5) because there will be no more Curse (Revelation 22:3). 1. 6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, (Isa 11:6) iv. To accept millions of years of animal death before the Creation and Fall of man contradicts and destroys not only the Bible s teaching on death but also undermines its teaching on the full redemptive work of Christ.

Goenaga 6 F. P7: THORNS; GOD LIED? i. If God cursed the earth with thorns after Adam sinned (as Genesis 3:18 says, both thorns and thistles shall grow for you ), 24 then why do we find fossil thorns in rocks that the old earthers claim are about 350 million years old? 25 If the millions of years are true, then God lied. If Genesis 3:18 is true, then the evolution claims about millions of years are a lie. G. P8: DISEASE; VERY GOOD? i. Were arthritis and cancer in the very good world before man sinned? If the late dating methods are correct, the answer must be yes. Many kinds of disease have been found in the fossil record, including arthritis, abscesses, and tumors in dinosaur bones dated to be 110 million years old. ii. There is also considerable evidence of rickets, syphilis, dental disease, etc., in human fossil bones that evolutionists date to be tens or hundreds of thousands of years before any biblically plausible date for Adam. If the Bible is true, then those dates are false and there was no pre-fall death and disease. H. C: THUS, AN OLD EARTH CREATIONISM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH A BIBLICAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE FALL, DEATH, AND DISEASE V. PROBLEMS WITH OEC AND GOD S NATURE A. P1: OAC ROBS GOD OF HIS UNIQUENESS i. Closely related to this issue of death is the incompatibility of the idea of millions of years with the character of God, as revealed in Scripture. ii. The Bible teaches throughout that we alone of the creatures can have that personal relationship with God. So it seems to have no logical purpose for Him to ordain billions of years with only rocks, algae, fish and even mammals, with whom He could have no spiritual communication. B. P2: OAC ROBS GOD OF HIS CONSISTENCY i. Additionally, if God created through a process (either progressive creation or theistic evolution) that involved millions of years of death, then He is very different from the God revealed in the post-fall world. 1. Help trapped animals: Exodus 23:4-5 2. Give their animals rest: Exodus 20:10 3. Not to be cruel to them: Deut 25:4 ii. The post-fall God says that a righteous man has regard for the life of his beast, but the compassion of the wicked is cruel (Proverbs 12:10). C. P3: OAC ROBS GOD OF HIS HOLINESS AND OMNIPOTENCE i. If God created over those millions of years, then He clearly was not intelligent enough and powerful enough to create a world right in the first place. All along the way He kept making creatures very similar to the creatures that He had just destroyed by intention or by incompetence and impotence.

Goenaga 7 ii. He would be grossly unjust and unrighteous compared to the God of Isaiah who said that when the knowledge of Him fills the earth, animals will not hurt or kill each other or people (Isaiah 11:6 9 and 65:25). 35 Such a cruel, bumbling, and weak God could not be trusted and would not be worthy of our worship. D. P4: OAC ROBS GOD OF HIS TRUSTFULNESS E. P5: OAC ROBS GOD OF HIS GOODNESS F. C: THUS, AN OLD EARTH CREATIONISM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH GOD S BIBLICAL NATURE BY ROBBING HIM OF THE VERY CHARACTERISTIC THAT MAKE HIM GOD. i. Only young-earth creationism gives us a view that is consistent with the glory, wisdom, power, holiness, truthfulness, and omniscient intelligence of the God revealed through the pages of Scriptures. ii. As the Bible presents them, the doctrines of death and the nature of God are utterly opposed to the millions-of-years view. If we believe the Bible s teaching on death and the character of God, then we must completely reject all old-earth views being advocated by Christians. VI. CONCLUSION A. CLOSE i. RESTATED THESIS ii. SUMMARY iii. CLOSE 1. Therefore 2. The Bible clearly teaches the young-earth creationist view of Genesis 1 11. That was the almost universal belief of the church for 1800 years. Progressive Creationism and Theistic Evolutionism in all their various forms (day-age view, gap theory, framework hypothesis, analogical days view, local flood view, etc.) are recent and novel interpretations that will not stand up to scrutiny with an open Bible. A growing body of overwhelming scientific evidence also shows that evolution and millions of years are religiously motivated myths masquerading as scientific fact. 3. Furthermore, the literal history of Genesis 1-11 is absolutely foundational to the truth of the rest of the Bible and the gospel itself. Taking these early chapters of Genesis in any other way undermines God s Word and the gospel of Jesus Christ, and over the past 200 years such compromises with evolution and millions of years have done incalculable damage to the spiritual health and evangelistic and missionary efforts of the Church. That compromise is one of the greatest, if not the greatest reason that Western Europe is now labeled post-christian and Britain and America are rapidly approaching that spiritual state. Ultimately, the question of the age of the earth is a question of the truth and authority of Scripture. That s why the age of the earth matters so much and why the church cannot compromise with millions of years (or evolution). 4. If the gap theory is true, then what kind of God is it who would create the earth and all forms of life, except man, and let them live and die for millions of years

Goenaga 8 and then destroy them all before He recreated the world with creatures very similar to the ones He had already destroyed? 5. If the day-age view or framework hypothesis or any other old-earth view is true, what kind of God would make the sun, moon, and stars with the purpose of enabling man to measure the passage of time, but then wait billions of years before He made man to measure time periods? That makes God out to be quite foolish. 6. Furthermore, as we noted before, at the end of Creation Week God called everything that He had made very good. But could the God of Scripture really describe as very good a fossil graveyard of thousands of feet of sedimentary rocks covering the whole earth and contained billions of fossils of former living things? Picture the Garden of Eden standing upon such death. The various planted rooted in the showed struggle and waste. Hardly the picture of perfection. 7. Could He really call cancer (as seen in dinosaur bones) very good? Could He call thorns and thistles very good, when in Genesis 3 He says they are the result of His curse? If God called all this death very good and if God told Adam that thorns were a consequence of his sin when in fact they existed long before he was created, then again God lied or He is totally incompetent in His use of language. But the biblical God is the God of truth, and as the Author of all language He is fully capable of saying exactly what He means. It is Satan who is a liar and a master deceiver. a. YEC makes more sense of the plain text. b. YEC makes more sense of the fall and redemption. c. YEC makes more sense of God s nature consistent with the role as creator. d. OEC calls for outside man-reliant devices to properly understand God s Word. e. OEC presupposes an extensive period of death, suffering, and pain incompatible with the Bible s teaching on The Fall, Death, and Redemption. f. OEC robs God of his character, and thus robs the Gospel of its foundation. Contrary to what the Bible says, the Fall would have only caused spiritual death in man. In fact, we can go further and say that if the millions of years of death, disease, and extinction really did occur, then that very good creation was considerably worse than the world we now inhabit where habitats are polluted or destroyed and creatures are brought to extinction due to human sin. We have never seen in human history 29 the kind of mass-kill, extinction events that the evolutionary geologists say occurred before man came into existence (unless, that is, we accept the global Flood of Noah s day, but that is the very event that old-earth proponents reject). So, if the millions of years really happened, then the Fall actually improved the world from what it was in the very good pre-fall creation. In this case, the Curse at the Fall would actually be a blessing! Sources: AnswersInGenesis