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1 BigBrain Radio Show August 6, 2005 Premier Show (music) Z: Good morning. D: Hey, welcome to the premier broadcast of the BigBrain Radio Show an evolutionary healthstyle program! I m Dr. David Stussy, and you can call me Dr. D. Z: And I m Dr. Zena Xanders and you can call me Dr. Z. And we are Both: The BigBrain Radio Show! Z: Woo! Welcome to our premier show everybody. Hey Dr. D! What is it we re going to be doing today on the BigBrain Radio Show? D: Well, we re going to do a little realistic thing a little philosophy. You know we re going to take a little heart tissue, we re going to take a little soul tissue, we re going to take a little brain tissue. We re going to mix it up with some hormones you know estrogen and testosterone Z: I know them. D: I don t know who s going to give what, but here we go. Z: (laughter) Let s get those straight from the beginning. D: That s going to give us some magic spirit called healthstyle. You know it s Saturday morning, what else could you be doing besides listening to the BigBrain Radio Show? Best of all, it ll keep you on the go. The BigBrain Radio Show! We re in the know the BigBrain Radio Show. Today we re going to hear about a unique concept in health it actually isn t health it s everything that we are. It s called healthstyle. And we re going to explain that. We re going to alter the way you look at making 1

2 yourself the quality of your life and we re going to look to see what is that you ll find nothing is missing in your health and that there is a context to make everything easy. Z: Wow. Hold on. I think I better get some more coffee. (laughter) That sounds like a lot to cover. D: Oh, well that s just the first three minutes. Z: That s just the first three minutes. Well can I tell them how the show s going to go today? D: You could do that. Z: Okay. First, in the first section of the show we re going to be introducing this idea of the BigBrain philosophy. It s quite unique, it s quite distinct, it s quite evolutionary healthstyle. D: You have to listen carefully. Z: Listen carefully. The second part we re going to be going through some concepts and applying it to your daily life and why we feel this is so important to you. And then, we re going to premier one of our first new features called D: Stuff that works. Z: Stuff that works. We re going to take these ideas and make them very specific and practical and play on some of these concepts. And finally we re so excited to introduce our 12-week healthstyle makeover. D: Ooh. Z: Ooh. One lucky woman one lucky man will be participating with Dr. D and I for 12 weeks to heal themselves from the inside out. It s going to be amazing. D: I can t tell you how excited I am about that. Z: (laughter) 2

3 D: But you know what? I want everybody to know something Z: Okay, this is our slogan. D: we re not here to change people. We are not here to argue or convince. We re just here B: Just here to inform and inspire. Z: Up next the BigBrain philosophy (music) (music) Z: There is nothing better than Buddy Holly on a Saturday morning. D: Hey, rock-a-billy. Z: Welcome back to the BigBrain Radio Show. D: You know that s one of the things we re going to do on the show here is we re going to have different kinds of music to reflect healthstyle. Because music is who people are. I think it s going to be fun. I can t wait to hear some of those oldies. Z: Well let s delve in and get into this idea, because Buddy Holly definitely has a certain style. D: He gives a lot of rhythm to the morning, I ll tell you that. Z: All right. So Dr. D, tell us about this BigBrain philosophy. Let s introduce it so people can join us in the conversation. D: Well the BigBrain philosophy was born of passion. It has to do with creating a context for people to live in a way that s easy for them to feel great at a state of ease so the quality of their life is exactly what they want without making themselves wrong all the time for not doing the right thing. 3

4 So anyway, I was I would I study all this neurology and all these things about the brain and the spine. I came up with this concept called the BigBrain and it had to do with people in my life who had been a BigBrain to me. Z: Say more. D; Well, the BigBrains in my life were people who by maybe even one word or a sharing of a thought or a little direction or a little coaching you know literally changed my life for the rest of my life. Z: The right person at the right time for the right reason to create like a Eureka moment for you. D: You got it. And then so I noticed in the middle of all this was the brain. So I started thinking a little bit about it. Well first of all, everybody knows what the brain is and we can all point to where we think it is we know where it is Z: Hopefully it s up here. D: and we get lots of comments about our brains. But the thing the brain does is it keeps track of special case experiences in our life and it keeps track of them. Z: Kind of like a computer, right? D: Yeah. Z: Processing center. D: It just processes. It s got all kinds of information. And then I realized that the BigBrain really stood for something else. The BigBrain stood for the human mind. And the human mind doesn t do any it takes all the special case situations and Eureka! it comes up with these special ideas, inventions, customs, ways of doing things Z: So the brain is the physical part and the mind is the creative D: Conceptual. 4

5 Z: Conceptual part. D: It creates generalized principles that seem to work for us for the rest of our lives. And the thing you want to notice is they always work. When we come up with a conclusion they are sometimes we re wrong and then we just throw that one away but the ones that inspired us the ones that create passion the ones that make it easy for us to do what we want to do are these generalized principles and they come from the human mind. Z: So would say that the brain is physical and the mind is metaphysical? D: That is the term. I hope we re not getting too heavy for Saturday morning. Z: Okay hang on. D: Physical, metaphysical. Okay? All physical without explanation. You can t touch, you can t feel, you can t see metaphysical but it s what runs our life. In fact life itself is metaphysical. Z: Wow. This is getting interesting now. D: Well you want to know something? There s something so cool about the brain. Z: What is it? D: Well, you gotta listen carefully. I don t want to get too heavy for Saturday morning but your amount of intelligence our ability to conceptualize and retrieve information and come up with these incredible conclusions and insights some that become inventions and change the life of everybody you know like the internet okay? Z Mm hmm. D: Is determined by the number of synapses we have in our brain. That s the connections between things that are called neurons. 5

6 Z: Synapses. D: Yeah, connections. Z: Okay. D: And it s all about life. Isn t it? Life is about connections. So it overlaps here. Anyway, the brain now everybody has to listen very carefully to this the brain has the number of synapses that your human brain, my human brain, everybody s human brain has ten followed by a million zeros. Z: All right. It s probably going to be pretty important to be healthy to keep those synapses cooking. D: But wait a minute. Hold it. The number of known particles in the whole universe is 10 followed by 78 zeros. So our brain is like more than the number of universes combined. Our brain is infinite. Z: The number of synapses in the brain is more than the number of D: Known particles Z: particles in the universe. D: Know particles in the universe. Z: Wow. All right. Well what about this idea of evolutionary? What is this evolutionary healthstyle? D: Well evolution has well everybody thinks they know about evolution we got Darwin, right? Z: What s our D: Evolution Z: Our definition of evolution. D: I m going to have what we call sub-optimal and optimal. 6

7 Z: Okay. D: Well sub-optimal is the kind of environment that most people have their health and their healthstyle. It s kind of created by the environment. It kind of it flatters our ego and it persuades us to do things that deceive us. And the thing when we know we re in that type of evolutionary spirit about how we handle ourselves is that we ll take credit for the favorable results but we ll blame the acts of God on the bad ones. All right? Life s kind of a separate thing. And the biggest thing is that it really reflects of our society you know and this station you have structures and governments that they take things to make more for less, but it doesn t create everything for everybody. Z: So this is sub-optimal you re saying. D: This is sub-optimal evolutional. Z: Okay. D: Well the optimal evolution, when it comes to health, anticipates improvements in subjective and objective and so that it prevents it keeps an already healthy person at optimal health. The suboptimal copes with humans who have already lost their health. Z: So it s kind of like suboptimal is survival and optimal is thrival. D: Right. And optimal evolutionary is the thing that has given us handwriting it has given us language has given us a visual and sound communications. It gives us the ability to hear from people from the past who continue to create great information into the future philosophies. Z: So would you say it s fair to say that evolutionary is the act of bringing forth or inventing, creating expansive and infinite possibilities? D: As it continues to change. Z: Cool Evolution. What about this healthstyle part? What s health then? 7

8 D: Well health is I thought about it a lot and I have a definition for that. Z: Okay. What is the definition of health we ll be using on the BigBrain Radio Show? D: Well it s the number of optimal, positive, physical and metaphysical, regenerative, positive, forward action days in our life. Z: Okay. Whoa. D: You want to look at that a little closer? Z: Health is the number of optimal D: That s the best. Who doesn t want optimal? Z: Positive D: Positive, that means it moving us in a direction. Doesn t mean good or bad but it s moving us in the direction we need to go. Z: Physical and metaphysical D: That includes both spaces of life. Z: Regenerative D: Regenerative means that it continues to create itself and gives energy doesn t take it away. Z: Forward-action days D: Positive forward-action days right into our future. Z: Wow. That s quite a new idea of health. D: It is. And you know this whole thing about metaphysical and physical what we re trying to include in that is all the things that most people want to give like they want to do things physical but they don t 8

9 want to think about things metaphysically. You know like guys don t want to do that Z: It s like they re using half their brain or half their energetics. D: Yeah, or they want pain without pleasure; they want pleasure without pain; right without wrong. But the thing is that Z: People are trying to live D: A one-sided life in a two-sided world. Z; Wow. D: And that s going to be a theme of ours because you have to include everything. See, we are perfect the way we are and it includes what some people call negative and some people call positive, but it includes them both. And when you engulf when you Z: Embrace embracing. D: natural evolution takes place. Z: One-sided life in a two-sided world. We ll be exploring that today. Okay, what about this idea of style? Because it s an evolutionary health style. Where does style come into play? D: Well what I came up with and when I look at what people do you know I ve been a doctor for 33 years and people only do what s associated with their values. And they have like maybe ten top values, but their top four or five really determine what they re going to do. All right? Z: Okay. D: And the values is what determines your style. I mean you re not going to do something Z: How you express your values is your style. D: Yes, your self-expression is your values and that s your style. 9

10 Z: Right. D: But then we try we have a style we re really clear about it we re comfortable with it and then we go and try to do something that doesn t even try to fit our style. Somebody tells us what to do, which is a suboptimal level in the evolutionary process, instead of what is in our own thinking. Another important concept here is people need to think for themselves and they need to know what s true for their own experience. Z: And many people take on health protocols or disciplines and they fail because they haven t overlapped that discipline with their particular style or self-expression. So it s just a matter of time before they don t do that practice anymore. We re going to be talking about that today too. D: Remember, we re going to try and engulf all aspects of life. This is health style. We re going to be talking about everything that makes us feel healthy regenerative and makes the number of positive forward days the best that we can have for us and for those around us. And literally and this is what makes optimal evolution so great it s for the sake of the planet and the survival of the planet because the other one it takes all our resources and uses them up and destroys what is left behind. Z: So what s unique about the BigBrain Radio Show and the BigBrain philosophy is that we consider ourselves health stylists. We re doctors, but we re doctors on a mission because we believe in people s health, which is their optimal number of positive D: Forward, regenerative Z: Regenerative forward action days. D: Right. Z: But, in their own style. We re committed to people s selfexpression. And there s a difference between trying to change something and actually transforming something. 10

11 D: You know there s nothing to change nothing is missing. You re perfect the way you are. Everybody has a certain number of positives and a certain number of negatives. And then we can evolve once we understand that. But it isn t even that. There s no right or wrong. People make themselves wrong if they don t do this, don t do this but you can actually embrace a philosophy that allows you to be there all the time. Z: Change is about comparing yourself to the past. D: Right. Z: Transformation is about creating something new from nothing that existed necessarily in the past. D: And that s optimal evolution. Z: And that s optimal versus suboptimal. So our commitment in the show as we start talking about health is to help people see the possibility of using their style and creating the optimal number of forward thinking days forward action days. D: You got it. Z: All right. So, in light of that D: Well a little bit more? You want me to say a little bit more? Z: Say a little bit more. D: I just want to bring it home that what we re trying to do is create a context for living a context for how to create these positive forward days a context in order to have your style show up a context to encompass who you are what some people would call negative and positive. You know you have these people that say they want a relationship, but they want only nice guys they don t want mean guys. Well, they don t make them that way. Z: (laughter) 11

12 D: You know? They do not make them that way. Or, we get a little bit the purpose of health is actually to equilibrate our lives. We go to exercise we can find out if we re in shape; we can find out if we re out of shape. But it puts balance back. If you have a real health style, it s happening all the time because it s part of your life and who you are. Z: I love it. I love it. D: It s the BigBrain philosophy. Z: I love it. I love it. I love it. And you re in for a treat. BigBrain philosophy part two expanding on some of these ideas and applying them to life is what it s all about. D: Right. And we re going to do that, real soon. Z: So this is Buddy Holly. And we are D: Rock-a-Billy. Z: AM 950 Air America Minnesota. (music) (music) Z: We are the BigBrain Radio Show and we re not here to argue or convince, we re just here to inform and inspire. Okay BigBrain radio D: Well talk about inspiring. You know listening to this radio just turns me on. I love this radio station. Because we re really that s what we re about a successful forward action for the planet and a group of individuals on the planet creates survival in the terms of health, energy and the ability to create continued successful solutions. And we re going to do it through health style. Z: Wow. Okay. So say more about how do we apply this in life? This BigBrain philosophy. 12

13 D: Well this is a big topic, so we re going to just start getting into it because we have special cases that we re going to be bringing up. A lot of interesting things about how people can do this individually. We re going to bring in experts about it. But if you actually you want to just go down to the basic look of what it takes to survive and let s just take the brain since we started with the BigBrain philosophy. The brain needs oxygen, the brain needs fuel, and the brain needs stimulation. Z: Okay. D: And so what do we need to do in our lifestyle that supports that? Z: Oxygen, fuel and stimulation? D: Stimulation the nervous system needs to be stimulated. It does not develop unless it is. Z: Okay, so say more. What about this do you have something on oxygen? What do we D: Well, with oxygen you know what about moving using your body to breathe doing things that don t make you tense Z: So this is a real physical application of supporting your brain. The physical brain needs to be supported with oxygen D: Well it s get to be almost a catch 22. You know I m just kind of creating this as we re talking here, but if you re under stress, do you think you breathe well? Z: No. D: And really, what is stress? There is very little real stress. There s just incidents in our life that we call stressful. Z: It s a perception that creates D: But the more that we re living a contextual health style, where things are naturally happening and we know we re going to get a certain 13

14 amount of things that challenge us and we re going to get a certain number of things to support this and we encompass both sides into it and that we embrace that in our health style, then there s nothing to be stressed about. We re going to be more relaxed. We re going to breathe deeper. Our tissues are going to get more oxygen. Our brain s going to feel better. And we don t have to spend two hours trying to run around Lake Harriet. Okay? Or you know getting nervous because we haven t run for the week, or we haven t done our aerobics. In fact, I think you have some very interesting things to tell people about aerobics and breathing Z: Well you know you bring up a good point because I see an overlap here of the physical brain and the metaphysical brain, or what you call the mind, because if you if you don t support your physical wellbeing of your brain, you re not going to be able to have your metaphysical or mind insights, and your creativity will suffer. D: And versa visa. If you don t take the time to think out, what are you really doing and how does it fit with your values values are certainly metaphysical and how does it fit with your values then your metaphysical the way you think is not going to be relaxed. It s going to be blocked up. Because you re always trying to meet other people s expectations and you re not even sure who you re talking about anymore. Z: This is good. You know some of our work is based on Hans Sele the father of D: Stress Z: Stress. And the interesting thing is the physical component of stress and the brain is really a manifestation of your perception of stress, which is done by the mind or the metaphysical brain. Say more about what Hans had to say about that. D: Well, what Hans did you know he put a bunch of mice and did a bunch of things to them. But he found if they were in a crowded room it was the same had the same effect on the body if you put them in cold water. So the body has a certain reaction to things and then it either adapted to it or it didn t adapt to it. And the healthier they were, the more they adapted. The less they had situations that tended to create that, the more they adapted. Now you probably know in my practice I see a lot of people 14

15 who are in motor vehicle accidents. And you can ask them to the person the day before and the day after The day before, things were fine. The day after, everything is stressful. Z: Right. D: They will use the word stressful, but nothing has changed because their ability to integrate information special case and even to make generalized principles metaphysical have been lost. They suffer socially. They suffer in their family. In fact, this is where our values come from. They suffer physically, they suffer mentally, they suffer spiritually. They even suffer financially. And the even suffer in their hobbies and their quality of their life because they haven t learned how to adapt and there was nothing they can do. Z: This brings up a good point because if you re not feeling well whether you ve been in a trauma or your nutrition is off or your guts hurt and you have irritable bowel syndrome if you re not feeling well, you cannot your perception of stress and life is going to be different you will really not be expressing yourself or being who you really are. If you don t feel well you re not really yourself. D: Well, here s the down side of that. When you don t feel well when you metaphysically don t think well and you re not doing what you want, it s hard to perceive how things aren t working. A lot of times I ll have patients say you know I didn t know how bad I felt until I felt better. Z: Exactly. D: In fact, we want people to do healthy things and what we found out was healthy people make healthy decisions. Z: Right. And sick people D: Say pass the chocolate. Z: Make poor decisions. D: You know you re under stress you say pass the chocolate please. 15

16 Z: Right. D: I don t care about changing my diet. Z: You kind of self-medicate yourself. D: And so we re not here to talk about and we re not here to talk about people that have gotten to this point where they re in an accident or you know they have certain serious things that have happened to them. We re really talking about people who are into optimal survival and having optimal values Z: Optimal thrival not survival. D: Thrival thank you very much. Z: Yes. D: Got caught there. Z: Sorry. But yeah, you re right. We want to talk about what s possible for people. What s possible for them in their life if their health and their style and their self-expression are functioning. D: Yeah, and here s what s happened. See no one has ever seen outside of themselves outside of their brain. Okay? Well our brains are smell, or touch or sound imagination since childhood been so faithful we ve been convinced that we are sensing directly outside of ourselves. But all that we re experiencing is inside ourself. We ve never been able to experience outside ourselves. Z: So it s an inside job. D: Healing is an inside job, but people think it s from the outside. Get this, do this, put this in here, change this for me. When really, healing is an inside job. And I know this sounds confronting, but when we re able to do and I hope we re able to coach people in a successful way this will be a very natural process and they ll be able to do things. It s going to work 16

17 for everybody. See a generalized principle blah it must be that dyslexia coming through. Z: I think it s time to go to news. (laughter) D: Well, a generalized principle works for everyone. Z: And that s what the BigBrain philosophy is. D: Yeah, that s what it is. You don t have to do anything special other than follow the rules that work the rules that work in the universe. Nature s way. Z: Fantastic. Oh I just can t wait. All right are you ready for some stuff that works? D: I am ready. Z: Right after the news, we re going to be looking at stuff that works. This is AM 950 Air America Minnesota. (music) (news) (music) D: You know they said on the break that Bob Dylan s Rolling Stone was the most influential song. You know we re going to have to do Bob I think on one of these shows real soon. Z: Okay, Bob s on the list. D: I think Bob would agree with what we re doing here. So we re going to talk about something and it s called Stuff that Works. Now Stuff that Works means it s been physically proven it s been metaphysically proven or unproven, because then it s not stuff that works and they actually have working models that actually work for everybody. And so and the big thing about stuff that works it has to be easy; it has to be 17

18 doable; you have to fit people s lifestyle and their values Wow, that s a lot of stuff. Z: It is. D: Hey, tell us about something that s Stuff that Works. Z: All right. I want to build on something you said because it s important to what I d like to expand on. You know Stuff that Works it isn t necessarily I want to elaborate It isn t necessarily easy, but I think what you mean is it s simple it s basic. What I d like to introduce today is a thing that works. It s simple, it s basic, but it s not necessarily easy. D: Well not Z: But it s obvious. D: Not initially, but it gets easy Z: Of course. D: Because healthy people find healthy decisions easy to make. Z: That s right. All right. So I d like to build on this concept of more for less. So one of the BigBrain concepts is that you get more results for less effort, and therefore you have more energy. And when you have more energy you have the ability to experience more health. D: And energy for everybody around, because energy is never created or destroyed, so there s plenty to go around. Z: That s right. So there s a fallacy or a misconception a false premise in our culture about eating and food and weight loss. D: They try and make it a discipline. Z: Well the this the premise is that you re supposed to lose weight to be healthy. And actually that s incorrect. The the true premise is you need to be healthy to lose weight not lose weight to be healthy. 18

19 And that s where I m coming from on this health tip, in Stuff that Works today and it s called Four Square Eating. D: Can I say one thing? Z: Okay. D: I was thinking about this why this was so good because it s contextual. You know I ve had the privilege of applying it. And once you get going, it s so easy. And eating Z: It s simple. D: It s simple. Z: And later it s easy. D: I thought it was I thought it was great. Z: Well, if it was easy for you, that s great. I don t want to mislead anybody because we re grown-ups here. D: Okay. Well, they can make their own decisions then. Z: Make their own decision. But anyway. D: This is called what did we call that human consent. Z: Adult informed consent? D: Informed consent for adults. Z: I m not here to argue with you or convince you. I m just here to inform you and inspire you. (laughter) D: (laughter) But the thing that I thought about it sometimes it does take change and the example I got is the old seatbelt. Now some of us are a little older we had a lot of trouble using how to use that seatbelt. And it was actually an effort. But everybody I see, they just snap that thing 19

20 on like it s a same thing of getting out of the car. It s part of their life. And when you adapt stuff that works, it just becomes part of your life. And Z: That s a good point. D: it creates more space and energy to other things. Z: If it works, it s going to work in your life and you ll want to include it. Okay, so let s get to it. D: Right. Z: Okay. So here s the idea. You know people are driving themselves crazy spending a lot of money, ruining their metabolism and running around the lakes, trying to lose weight. When in reality, there s just a few simple things that you need to do to change your metabolism, get healthy and then therefore lose weight. So if I were to give you three things you could do that would be very simple and basic, for more results, would you be interested in that? D: I would. And I want people out there Z: All right. D: to be listening to that. Write these down. Z: Write these down. This is part of our health makeover by the way. This paradigm. First of all, if you just ate the right foods in the right way at the right time, it would be simple for you D: Because they re synergistic. Z: to heal. And if you used supplements after age 35, because genetically our programming for some of these orthomolecular molecules have stopped that s another very simple, easy hopefully easy thing to do. Yes? D: Cool. 20

21 Z: Supplements. And the third thing is, if we checked your gut to make sure it was healthy and checked your level of inflammation in your body and any food allergies you might be having if we got all that lined up correctly, your body would be metabolism would metabolize things correctly and it would be easier to get healthy and to lose weight. Does that make sense? D: That sounds like total sense. Z: Now, did I say anything about 20 to 30 minutes of aerobics high intensity aerobics? Did I say anything about that? D: No. And you didn t say anything about not enjoying eating. And you didn t say anything Z: Did I say anything about starving yourself and eating less? D: No. Z: No. So the idea is that if you eat four square, you re going to keep yourself hormonally balanced. See if you keep yourself hormonally balanced, it s easy to heal have your metabolism working and lose weight. But if you throw yourself out of balance and you don t eat four square, now you re in trouble. Now you re doing all kinds of crazy things. So would you like to know what this four square eating is exactly? D: I think everybody would. Z: Okay. The four components of four square eating get your pencils ready quality proteins, healthy fats, real carbohydrates, and nonstarchy vegetables. D: Did you say fats? Z: Yes. You know in this eating program you get butter, you get sour cream (if you don t have dairy). You get a lot of olive oil. You actually eat fat. Your body needs fat for hormones, cell membranes for your brain. Do you know your brain is 60% fat by weight? D: You just stole my line. 21

22 Z: Oh. D: I was going to Z: So sorry. You re not going to have a big brain if you don t eat fats. D: You gotta have Z: Your body needs them. D: Or a big mind the BigBrain mind. Yes. Z: That s right. So if you re if you want to try this this week, before our next show, here s what you want to do. You want to start with a quality protein. So you pick a piece of protein: chicken, fish, turkey organic is always is best. If you can afford organic, that s always the way to go about the size of your palm, or three to four ounces per meal. D: And guys a little bit more. Bigger people a little bit more. Z: Yes. We can get more specific later. Then you pick a real carbohydrate. A real carbohydrate is something you can pick, harvest, gather. So no refined sugars. We want brown rice, beans, whole-grain bread if you re not allergic to gluten. D: My favorite, vegetables. Where does that come in at? Z: Well, actually corn corn is considered a real carbohydrate a starchy carbohydrate. And then you take those two and you add a nonstarchy vegetable, which is carrots, broccoli, peas. You know everybody knows the vegetables. D: Man, I m the broccoli kid these days. Z: That s right. Broccoli is so good for you prosipherous vegetables. And then what you do is you sprinkle some of your healthy fats on top, whether that s some olive oil on your salad, or some butter on your baked potato. 22

23 D: A little avocado. Z: But the key is avocado that s correct. The key is you have to eat all this together. D: At the same time. Z: You can t take one component and pull it out. You must eat four square together or you throw your hormones off. If you eat carbohydrates without protein, you spike your insulin. People know a lot about insulin these days and that makes you fat because then the carbohydrates your eating go just to stored fat. If you eat protein without a carbohydrate, you increase your glucagon, which uses you up and throws you out of balance the other way. So you must eat carbohydrate and protein together. Then you add your non-starchy vegetables, which gives you vital chemicals and anti-oxidants, minerals and nutrients. And then the fat for your brain, hormones, cell membranes. D: You know I m going to say something because I know someone s thinking this. This is just the way grandma told you to eat. Z: Exactly. Exactly. D: You know when I first started practicing, I practiced in a little town in Southern Minnesota and these guys were farmers and they grew their own food. You didn t walk in the grocery stores and there weren t these rows and rows of pre-packaged foods. And they were very healthy. And I m telling you those people got healthier faster. Z: Oh, definitely. The thing about eating four square and keeping your hormones balanced is it allows for regeneration. D: Regeneration. Z: Which is one of the BigBrain philosophy principles. D: Even more so because it s synergistic from the particles Synergy is when the properties of the particles separate do not you could not predict what s going to happen when they re put together. 23

24 Z: Exactly. D: And because it s natural it creates energy. It s just like a happening. Buckminster Fuller says for something to be an experience, you have to have four points four things. I won t get into this Z: Well, like foursquare eating. There we go. D: That s why I m telling you. It s a magical number. Four square gives you the rule. Z: That s right. And you know here s the premise in our culture. The premise is people are trying to lose weight. If you want to lose weight, you can do an Atkins like diet where it s high protein and low carb. You will lose weight. However D: Well, you ll look skinnier, I ll tell you that. I don t know Z: Well, but you will lose weight, but at what expense. Because when you do that you damage your metabolism. And when you return to eating like grandma said, or normally, you re going to gain weight because now you ve got to go back and rebuild all those structural and functional biochemicals to support your life. So everybody knows when you ve dieted to lose ten pounds and then you gain back 20, you ve hurt your metabolism. D: How many people out there have had moments when they ve followed one of those diets? How many people have had moments when the weight came back plus? How many people out there kept thinking I m not exercising enough? And when you exercised more all you were was tired. You weren t losing it. How many people noticed that you were trying to eat these limited versions of diets and exercising and your body was bloating, getting bigger. That was taking on a look that you couldn t understand and you were getting disappointed, disillusioned. We call that failure. See success is a point where failure no longer occurs. And we are going to give you things that are successful. We ve just started in fact. Where failure no longer occurs. But you have to do it. Z: So we re switching from a dieting mentality to a healing mentality. So the idea is to be healthy to lose weight. Not lose weight to be 24

25 healthy. And this is part of our health makeover. I want to give you an example some people can really relate to. You know Oprah Winfrey has recently lost a lot of weight. But I m concerned for Oprah and I ll tell you why. First of all, she said one of the things she has to do to maintain this weight loss or how she lost it anyway were eight intensive cardio workouts a week. Now cardio workouts increase cortisol and adrenaline, which are the inflammatory hormones. And they re the using hormones. On our program, our 12-week makeover people are going to love this no cardio. No cardio exercise because it uses you up faster than you build and it create inflammatory hormones cortisol and adrenaline. D: You know everybody knows maybe they don t aerobics came from a doctor called Dr. Cooper. And he came up with this concept and everybody kind of embraced it. Well Dr. Cooper recently came back and did some research and you know what he said? He said oops. Z: I was wrong. D: Because he had all these friends that were marathon runners and they were dropping over from a heart attack because aerobic exercise actually produces free radicals. Z: Right. D: And free radicals is aging degeneration, not regeneration. Z: Right. Aging accelerating. D: So why would you be doing something? So all of a sudden the secret is that people aren t doing near the intensity. But you know when the incorporate this context because we should actually take a look at really what people look at eating because eating is for the survival. Remember I said they need fuel? And fuel is what we need to put in our bodies. It s turned into entertainment and it doesn t mean it can t be. But you know this makes it easy. Z: Another reason I m worried about Oprah if you ve heard her talk at all and Carnie Wilson as a matter of fact Now Carnie Wilson had gastric bypass surgery and now she s put on 50 more lost she lost 150 pounds, but now she s put back on 50 pounds because she had a baby 25

26 and now she s having trouble losing it. And both these women are having cravings. Oprah will tell you she cannot touch a bag of potato chips she ll go insane. Carnie Wilson, on an interview the other day, said when she s working out, every time her trainer says hamstrings all she can think of is ham. These women are having cravings. And when you re having cravings, that s an indication that you are biochemically off. When you replace things that are missing in your body with supplements, the appropriate supplements, it s not a matter of willpower any more. You do not need willpower. You need no cravings. So that s another thing you can look forward to with foursquare eating and the correct supplements and healing your gut, and eliminating food allergies and inflammation. You re free. This is a liberating program. D: And I take the point of the guys here. I know who Oprah is everybody Who s Carnie Wilson? Z: Carnie Wilson is Beach Boys the Beach Boy s daughter. D: Oh, I m sorry Z: Brian Wilson s daughter, Carnie Wilson. D: I must be Z: Don t you watch Entertainment Tonight? D: I don t. Honest. Z: It s a BigBrain show. D: It s not a sports show, is it? Z: It s a health style show (laughter). D: You know you ve talked you brought up some very interesting things. This whole concept of inflammation there is a contention by some health experts that most people are walking around in a constant state of inflammation. That s why it s easier to get upset. That s why people are going into Alzheimers. That s why degeneration. We might be living longer, but we re not living better that s for sure. 26

27 Z: We now know that the number one underlying process, under all disease whether it s cancer, Alzheimers, irritable bowel syndrome, is inflammation. So the key about eating this way and healing your gut is that you are taking down the inflammation in the body. And then you re less prone to aging, which is regenerative. And you re less prone to the degenerative diseases of aging. D: And you need to be careful not to treat inflammation like a symptom. You know like one time people just take the essential oils. That of course that will help with inflammation. But you need to do this contextual whole approach to actually have inflammation go away because it s not a natural process of the body. Inflammation shows up when you ve infection or when you need to heal from an injury. Other than that, inflammation is not normal in the body. Z: That s right. If you re suffering from chronic inflammation so to summarize the four square eating, you also need to eat every three hours. Okay? So we re eating three meals and two snacks five to six meals a day. You re getting a particular amount of carbohydrate, a particular amount of protein, which we ll go over in our health makeover so you ll get all the details. But if you this week just start to eat every three hours and you must eat breakfast and you must have vegetables at breakfast pull out those carrots. This will be the number one life changing thing you might do is start eating vegetables at breakfast. D: Not those cereals and grains. Z: No. D: But we ll get into that more later right? Z: If you start eating four square, five times a day, eating every three hours, you re going to be eating a lot. You are not going to feel deprived. Your body s going to be balancing, your hormones are going to be going well. And you are going to have an amazing new health style. D: And people lose weight and you re not even doing it to lose weight. Now remember, we re not promoting or selling anything. We re just here to inform 27

28 Z: This is stuff that works. D: and inspire. And it s stuff that works. Z: If you do this, it will work. Now again, the other thing is it takes time. You know weight loss is quick. That s why people like it. Healing takes time. But you will be so much better off if you take this four square approach. Hey, we re giving you a health tip. This is foursquare eating. Stuff that works. And this is the BigBrain Radio Show. And we are AM 950 Air America Minnesota. (music) (ads) (music) Z: Okay Buddy. Okay Dr. D. Bring it home. Where are we at here at the end of our first BigBrain Radio Show? D: Well we ve been talking about the BigBrain Radio Show and the evolutionary health style. And the cool thing is remember I always say Brain Waves to Radio Waves? Z: Yes. D: That s the power of talk radio, because life starts in conversation. And everybody should know that conversation is about informing. And by the way, when you re talking, you re usually talking to yourself. So guess who we re talking to? We re talking to ourselves. Z: (laughter) D: Because we know how important it is and we want you to understand that too. So we have lots of things coming up. We want to kind of summarize what we re going to be doing here. We have some guests coming up in the future. We have some of the best doctors in the world who are going to be guests and come on and talk to us. And they re a secret. The not the most famous 28

29 Z: Far out. Far out. D: We have trends and techniques. We have restaurants that we think are inspiring for people that will follow this. We re going to have public health issues. We re going to talk you have to know we re not anti-medical or pro-medical or anything. We re just talking that when you re in crisis health that s different than what we re talking about, which is health style, because we re a couple of B: Health stylists! D: You got it. We re going to talk about exercise and exercise that works. We re going to talk about products that work. We re going to talk about products that work. We re going to talk about services that work. We re going to review articles, books you know I m Z: It s just so much. D: I go through like 30 magazines a month you ve seen all of them. Z: I think people should just take their calendar right now and just highlight every Saturday morning at 9:00 for the BigBrain Radio Show. D: And tell everybody they know. Z: And tell everybody they know. D: They should. Z: And we can t wait to be with you. D: So we get a little excited. Z: I want to talk about the health makeover. D: Oh, go ahead go ahead yeah. 29

30 Z: If you re interested in being one of our contestants on our 12- week health makeover it s reality radio the contest will start the week of Monday, September 12 th. So the week after Labor Day weekend we re going to get going with this 12-week program. It will go through the Thanksgiving holiday and we will end the 12-week health makeover on December 10 th. So we ll wrap it up right before the Christmas holiday. And we will be offering this health makeover to one woman and one man and we re going to give you a chance to us over the next month your story and why you should be in our health makeover. Why don t you tell them some of the things the health makeover will include. D: Well guess what? It s going to include nutrition. And it s going to include how to eat. Z: This is all free. This is all on the docs, right? D: You re going to have a full neurological exam and everything we do is not special case like when you go to the hospital or your HMO or whatever. It s going to be general. We re going to know about how your system works and how you re going to age your balance and your ability to use your body in space and time. Your ability to remember things. Your cognitive neurological exam. There will be chiropractic treatments, of course. Z: Chiropractic adjustments. D: But they will be the most advanced that have been integrated, from the best people Z: That s right. D: around the world. You re going to get a brain tune-up. Your brain s going to work better I know that for a fact. Z: Ah, that s awesome. D: Nutrition counseling four square Z: Fish oils. 30

31 D: Yep. Z: Eating foursquare counseling. D: Pharmaceutical grade supplements. Z: The best, most effective supplements. D: Stuff that works. Z: You re going to love these supplements. D: Stuff that works. Ah, testing of food allergies. Allergies and because remember I talked about in the suboptimal evolution that s when powers to be kind of dictate you know they found certain things that work and then they packaged it and put it in stores and it s crap with cytotoxin and Z: (laughter) Don t hold back. Just let it out. D: Well, the rule is eat what nature if it s mother nature Z: It s got to be natural food. D: If mother nature made it, eat it Z: Right. And if you re having food allergies D: If it s packaged by man or humans Z: You ve got a lot of inflammation. What else do they get? D: It s not good. Okay. Physical training. We re actually going to have training, but it s going to be based on optimizing your training, because everybody s time counts. And so you re going to have little fourminute things you can do every day. You re going to have a special person working for you 31

32 Z: Do you know what s cool about the exercise? It s an evolutionary idea it s hormonally balanced exercise. You exercise to keep your hormones balanced like your eating to keep your hormones balanced. D: Well guess what? It s also brain-based. I guess you could say it s BigBrain-based and brain-based. Z: It s BigBrain evolutionary exercise. D: You re going to get a metaphysical and a physical result and you don t even have to try. Just going to do what you do anyway! Z: That sounds so cool. All right. So again, if you re interested here s how you contact us. You can us. You can reach Dr. D at drd@bigbrainradioshow.com. And you can reach me at drz@bigbrainradioshow.com. And again we ll be announcing this on every show for three or four weeks. And we re going to get started in September. D: And some of you may go to our website. It s But you ll just see we re just kind of getting it together. Z: We re under construction, is that correct? D: We re under construction but we ve got a lot of stuff you re going to hear on the show we re going to post for you. We re going to post other things that go along Z: Yes so you can find us. D: because obviously we only have an hour. There s stuff we never even got to. Z: That s right. D: I could talk for hours and I don t want to because I want you to pick it. I want you to use your own experience. We want you to think for yourself and everybody that we know that listened to this radio show think for themselves. That s why we picked this station! 32

33 Z: This is a highly intelligent audience. D: A highly intelligent Z: Highly sophisticated, highly intelligent audience. So we really thank you for joining us. D: But they don t put on airs. Z: This has been an amazing BigBrain show. So we want to make sure you ve got everything you need. And ah Dr. D., just give us the last BigBrain philosophy they should remember here on the way out today. D: Remember your BigBrains out there the people in your life that have made a difference. The ones you used to know, the ones that you do know, and the ones you re gonna know! Because you re living the BigBrain lifestyle. Remember, the BigBrain is responsible for the beauty in our life and it gives us the ability to handle strife. Z: Ooh, that was good. D: Yeah, I like that. You know I love to rhyme. Z: That was really good. D: We ll have to have some hip-hop sometime. Z: Who are we going to have for our musical background next Saturday morning? D: I don t know. It s going to be a surprise. We have to see pick up the rhythm see, there s that dyslexia again darn it blah Z: (laughter) I think your brain needs some healthy fats. D: When I was little I couldn t say museum either and I still can t. 33

34 Z: Museum. All right we also want to let you know that the BigBrain Radio Show is for kids, so this is Lily in the studio with us today. Say hello Lily. L: Hi. Z: And one of Lily s specialties is talking about children and food allergies and when a kid s having a food allergy Lily, what does it what does it look like? What happens? L: Well, they can get really crazy, really cranky. Or they are craving some more of that same food. And they get dark circles under their eyes. Z: All right. D: Hey, I hear the boogie woogie. Z; That s the BigBrain Radio Show update from Lily. Ah we can t wait to hear see you hear you see you D: Make sure you tune in. Tell everybody to tune in. Z: Next Saturday, 9:00. D: We ll update you as we go. Z: Okay, and remember D: Just remember: Z: We re not here D: To argue or convince. B: We re just here to inform and inspire. D: The BigBrain Radio Show. 34

35 Z: This is AM 950 Air America Minnesota. Have a great weekend. (music) end of show 35

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