So many say that they are "God fearing Christians". Question, why are you afraid of God? Part 1

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1 So many say that they are "God fearing Christians". Question, why are you afraid of God? Part 1

2 11/05/ :34 PM So many say that they are "God fearing Christians". Question, why are you afraid of God? A true all knowing and all wise supreme being should not be something to fear. In truth, this reality is SO much more than most people's silly childish understandings. God is within you. Not something above you or in control of you... User ID: /05/ :42 PM it's not a Human Fear like running away fro a Grizzly bear chasing you.. t is a fear of reverence giving GOD rightly worship and reverence to the Creator...Our Father in Heaven... Who is the Creator of all Created... User ID: Germany 11/05/ :45 PM Because they know their religion is bullshit. Nam Marine User ID: /05/ :45 PM "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom" Psalm 111:10 (OP) 11/05/ :47 PM it's not a Human Fear like running away fro a Grizzly bear chasing you.. t is a fear of reverence giving GOD rightly worship and reverence to the Creator...Our Father in Heaven... Who is the Creator of all Created... Quoting: AH- Candace GLP # page. 1

3 I wonder if you are aware what double talk your post was. Please, this is not an attack. Just stop and think about how warped and silly your reply was. You are trying very hard to justify fear by talking gibberish. The word fear means what it means. Reverence does not justify fear. ExTraDimensionaL777 User ID: Belgium 11/05/ :47 PM "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom" Psalm 111:10 Quoting: Nam Marine FEAR KILLS YOU & CONFINES YOU.. LOL STOP READING THIS RE-WRITTEN BY DEMONIC HANDS BOOKS.. WAKE UP & SEARCH INSIDE!! OR YOU WONT FIND... Peace User ID: /05/ :48 PM proper translation is respect User ID: Ireland 11/05/ :48 PM Judgement of course. (OP) 11/05/ :48 PM "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom" Psalm 111:10 Quoting: Nam Marine You don't have a clue what you are trying to justify here do you? I feel sorry for you AH- Candace GLP # page. 2

4 User ID: /05/ :50 PM "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom" Psalm 111:10 Quoting: Nam Marine LOL! Some book. Professing your ignorance is the beginning of wisdom and the path to love, oh Heavenly Father. (OP) 11/05/ :51 PM proper translation is respect Quoting: Why was this one word mistranslated? If that is possible, maybe many more passages in the bible are "mistranslated" also. You people will do anything to make the bible say what you want it to say. Why was this ONE WORD mistranslated? Silly. User ID: /05/ :52 PM proper translation is respect Quoting: this is what I thought it was too. Never understood why I need to fear god. I'm not gonna fear an all loving being who created me, but I sure as hell will give him all my respect..and love User ID: /05/ :52 PM legitimate contact can lift you to a reality where 2+2 isn't necessarily 4. at first it is scary. ExTraDimensionaL777 User ID: AH- Candace GLP # page. 3

5 Belgium 11/05/ :53 PM In fact, dear Chsristians.. To fear God is TO OFFEND GOD! Think about it.. He created us, HE GAVE US FREE WILL.. AND YOU CHOOSE TO FEAR?? GETOUTTAHEA' (OP) 11/05/ :54 PM proper translation is respect Quoting: this is what I thought it was too. Never understood why I need to fear god. I'm not gonna fear an all loving being who created me, but I sure as hell will give him all my respect..and love Quoting: Again, how can this ONE word be mistranslated and the rest of the bible is to be taken as literal truth? You can't have it both ways... In fact, many things in the bible make no sense at all. User ID: /05/ :56 PM in Hebrew YIRAH means reverent or fear fear of the LORD as in reverent trembling in the presence of his majesty -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 4

6 read ACTS :17 (OP) 11/05/ :57 PM in Hebrew YIRAH means reverent or fear fear of the LORD as in reverent trembling in the presence of his majesty read ACTS :17 Quoting: See above question... User ID: /05/ :59 PM Because he said to fear him, and that he is coming with the sword to divide and kill all those who appose him. even his own people who are disobedient to his law! User ID: /05/ :59 PM proper translation is respect Quoting: Why was this one word mistranslated? If that is possible, maybe many more passages in the bible are "mistranslated" also. You people will do anything to make the bible say what you want it to say. Why was this ONE WORD mistranslated? Silly. read some NDEs. Alot of people ask about the bible and which religion is right. And they always get the same answer. The religion that brings you closer to god and the bible isn't meant to be read literally, but spiritually as with all religious books. That is why there are 50 different factions of Christians all condemning each other to hell. They want to interpret the bible word for word in a logical sense. Doesn't work that way. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 5

7 I remember one NDE in which a man asked why there are so many condridictions (yeah I spelled that wrong) in the bible. He was told "there are no condridictions, your trying to read it with a brain and not a heart." User ID: /05/ :02 PM proper translation is respect Quoting: this is what I thought it was too. Never understood why I need to fear god. I'm not gonna fear an all loving being who created me, but I sure as hell will give him all my respect..and love Quoting: Again, how can this ONE word be mistranslated and the rest of the bible is to be taken as literal truth? You can't have it both ways... In fact, many things in the bible make no sense at all. ever look at a dictionary? One word can have multiple definitions. Fear means reverant awe. it has always had that meaning. (OP) 11/05/ :04 PM proper translation is respect Quoting: Why was this one word mistranslated? If that is possible, maybe many more passages in the bible are "mistranslated" also. You people will do anything to make the bible say what you want it to say. Why was this ONE WORD mistranslated? Silly. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 6

8 read some NDEs. Alot of people ask about the bible and which religion is right. And they always get the same answer. The religion that brings you closer to god and the bible isn't meant to be read literally, but spiritually as with all religious books. That is why there are 50 different factions of Christians all condemning each other to hell. They want to interpret the bible word for word in a logical sense. Doesn't work that way. I remember one NDE in which a man asked why there are so many condridictions (yeah I spelled that wrong) in the bible. He was told "there are no condridictions, your trying to read it with a brain and not a heart." Quoting: If that is true, why not look at all life and read it with the heart? There is truth all around us. What I am saying is that the bible is not the only truth available to us in the world if we listen and understand it with our hearts and not through our mind and through fear. See what I'm saying? If you do this, the truth of our reality can then be found in MANY books and through life all around us... (OP) 11/05/ :05 PM proper translation is respect Quoting: this is what I thought it was too. Never understood why I need to fear god. I'm not gonna fear an all loving being who created me, but I sure as hell will give him all my respect..and love Quoting: Again, how can this ONE word be mistranslated and the rest of the bible is to be taken as literal truth? You can't have it both ways... In fact, many things in the bible make no sense at all. ever look at a dictionary? One word can have multiple definitions. Fear means reverant awe. it has always had that meaning. Quoting: AH- Candace GLP # page. 7

9 You are trying too hard to find truth where it doesn't exist... User ID: /05/ :05 PM A true all knowing and all wise supreme being should not be something to fear. In truth, this reality is SO much more than most people's silly childish understandings. God is within you. Not something above you or in control of you... "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 10:28 See, people like you should fear GOD OP. God is going to destroy your body and your soul if you do not repent and submit to him. You will get judged and rejected and sent to Hell, just like you rejected God. Don't blame me and call me hateful, I'm just the messanger. Belief that we are all gods is new age, occoult, bull crap. It's not too late for you to repent and turn to God but soon it will. Make the right choice. Dr_Kynes User ID: /05/ :05 PM Fear and Respect go hand and hand with GOD. Does he want you to cower and act like a driveling idiot? NO But you aught to fear if you don't do what He tells you...cause He can take you out of this world early... And HE also has the keys to hell. Don't fear man (like the pope or his agents like Obama and Bush and Hiter) who can destroy the body but can't destroy the soul, but fear HIM (GOD) who can destroy both both body and soul in HELL. User ID: /05/ :06 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 8

10 cause he is a serial killer whio kills billions and then tortures them forever in a hell. I would be terrified too if god was like that. Thankfully it isnt that way. User ID: /05/ :15 PM cause he is a serial killer whio kills billions and then tortures them forever in a hell. I would be terrified too if god was like that. Thankfully it isnt that way. Quoting: Either you're with him or you're against him. Simple as that. If you're not with God you're with Satan. (OP) 11/05/ :18 PM A true all knowing and all wise supreme being should not be something to fear. In truth, this reality is SO much more than most people's silly childish understandings. God is within you. Not something above you or in control of you... "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 10:28 See, people like you should fear GOD OP. God is going to destroy your body and your soul if you do not repent and submit to him. You will get judged and rejected and sent to Hell, just like you rejected God. Don't blame me and call me hateful, I'm just the messanger. Belief that we are all gods is new age, occoult, bull crap. It's not too late for you to repent and turn to God but soon it will. Make the right choice. Quoting: I have no fear of your evil God... User ID: /05/ :19 PM Ask Job -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 9

11 User ID: /05/ :21 PM... this is what I thought it was too. Never understood why I need to fear god. I'm not gonna fear an all loving being who created me, but I sure as hell will give him all my respect..and love Quoting: Again, how can this ONE word be mistranslated and the rest of the bible is to be taken as literal truth? You can't have it both ways... In fact, many things in the bible make no sense at all. ever look at a dictionary? One word can have multiple definitions. Fear means reverant awe. it has always had that meaning. Quoting: You are trying too hard to find truth where it doesn't exist... no kidding... look up the word in any respectable dictionary and see for yourself. (OP) 11/05/ :21 PM Fear and Respect go hand and hand with GOD. Does he want you to cower and act like a driveling idiot? NO But you aught to fear if you don't do what He tells you...cause He can take you out of this world early... And HE also has the keys to hell. Don't fear man (like the pope or his agents like Obama and Bush and Hiter) who can destroy the -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 10

12 body but can't destroy the soul, but fear HIM (GOD) who can destroy both both body and soul in HELL. Quoting: Dr_Kynes This why you are a lost slave. We are NOT children or weak lost souls. We are powerful infinite spiritual beings. We don't need to be guided, controlled or punished by any being. Certainly not by God. You will stay a lost, suffering slave until you realize this truth... User ID: Ireland 11/05/ :25 PM proper translation is respect Quoting: BSF Its not me. User ID: Australia 11/05/ :25 PM Because they know their religion is bullshit. Quoting: And that they are faking it anyways. They don't actually care, they just pretend to to fit in. (OP) 11/05/ :28 PM cause he is a serial killer whio kills billions and then tortures them forever in a hell. I would be terrified too if god was like that. Thankfully it isnt that way. Quoting: Either you're with him or you're against him. Simple as that. If you're not with God you're with Satan. Quoting: It's that simple is it? Fool. This is not a football game. You are here to find the truth for yourself. Not to do what you are told. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 11

13 Talk about a slave mentality, "Either you're with him or you're against him.". So, if I don't pray to, fear and honor your God, then he will burn me? Can't you see how sick you sound? I feel sorry for you... God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :29 PM A true all knowing and all wise supreme being should not be something to fear. In truth, this reality is SO much more than most people's silly childish understandings. God is within you. Not something above you or in control of you... they believe without knowing it, in Lucifer and satanism, that is why they are afraid. Once they come out of that, they won't be. When this stage in human unfolding (the stage of genius) has been reached by enough of the human race to dominate its transactions, one with another, wars will be impossible. Material values are the basis of all wars. The genius stage of unfolding places no value whatsoever upon material things. Greed and acquisitiveness is not in it. The sense of evil is not in it. It would be impossible and unthinkable for a Beethoven or Sibelius to even think the inharmonies which are necessary to wage war. The only way to hold a civilization together is to bring a cosmic harmony into it through transactions based upon love. It is impossible to hold it together as a workable organization in any other way. We have now reached the point in this man-made world where hate, suspicion and greed are sitting at conference tables to bargain with each other. The more they bargain the greater the necessity for increased armament. Lao Russell My Walter Russell thread. Thread: Walter Russell Quotes cmog530 User ID: /05/ :31 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 12

14 (KJV)Psalm 111:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments : his praise endureth for ever. (KJV)Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. (KJV)Proverbs 2:5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God. Fearing God keeps us in line, because He punishes evil. The best way to explain it is this. A child fears doing something wrong and getting punished by their parents. It's this fear, that leads the child to not do anything stupid. It is also because of this, why spankings are now thought to be evil. With my own eyes, I have seen the ill effects of it. Children get everything they want, thus losing respect of the parents and when the parents DO try to assert authority, the child pays them no mind. Note, that fear also includes respect. A LOT of people do not respect the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and thus, we see many hypocrites. (KJV)Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. (KJV)Hebrews 12:5-17 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: [6] For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. [7] If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? [8] But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. [9] Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? [10] For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. [11] Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. [12] Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees; [13] And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 13

15 it rather be healed. [14] Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: [15] Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; [16] Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. [17] For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Glory be to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!!! User ID: /05/ :32 PM proper translation is respect Quoting: Why was this one word mistranslated? If that is possible, maybe many more passages in the bible are "mistranslated" also. You people will do anything to make the bible say what you want it to say. Why was this ONE WORD mistranslated? Silly. read some NDEs. Alot of people ask about the bible and which religion is right. And they always get the same answer. The religion that brings you closer to god and the bible isn't meant to be read literally, but spiritually as with all religious books. That is why there are 50 different factions of Christians all condemning each other to hell. They want to interpret the bible word for word in a logical sense. Doesn't work that way. I remember one NDE in which a man asked why there are so many condridictions (yeah I spelled that wrong) in the bible. He was told "there are no condridictions, your trying to read it with a brain and not a heart." Quoting: If that is true, why not look at all life and read it with the heart? There is truth all around us. What I am saying is that the bible is not the only truth available to us in the world if we listen and understand it with our hearts and not through our mind and through fear. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 14

16 See what I'm saying? If you do this, the truth of our reality can then be found in MANY books and through life all around us... What your first line said is what Jesus came here to teach. Live your life to the fullest and treat others with kindness and you will be blessed. You are born with everything you need to enter the kingdom of heaven. You know what right and wrong is. If you do or say something that makes you and/or others feel good about themselves then you did the right thing. This is getting closer to god. Killing someone does not bring out good emotions unless your sick in the head. You know you did wrong and you know you wronged the other person. That is moving away from god and thus is sin. It doesn't matter WHY you killed him. God will judge that action accordingly. Anything you do to bring out negative emotions is sinning. Anything you do to bring out positive emotions is a blessing. You don't need religion or even religious books (although they are great moral teachings and can help people who are lost) to go to heaven. (OP) 11/05/ :33 PM (KJV)Psalm 111:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments : his praise endureth for ever. (KJV)Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. (KJV)Proverbs 2:5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God. Fearing God keeps us in line, because He punishes evil. The best way to explain it is this. A child fears doing something wrong and getting punished by their parents. It's this fear, that leads the child to not do anything stupid. It is also because of this, why spankings are now thought to be evil. With my own eyes, I have seen the ill effects of it. Children get everything they want, thus losing respect of the parents and when the parents DO try to assert authority, the child pays them no mind. Note, that fear also includes respect. A LOT of people do not respect the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and thus, we see many hypocrites. (KJV)Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. (KJV)Hebrews 12:5-17 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 15

17 not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: [6] For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. [7] If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? [8] But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. [9] Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? [10] For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. [11] Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. [12] Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees; [13] And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed. [14] Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: [15] Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; [16] Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. [17] For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Glory be to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!!! Quoting: cmog530 We are not lost children. Well, we aren't supposed to be... God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :34 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 16

18 cause he is a serial killer whio kills billions and then tortures them forever in a hell. I would be terrified too if god was like that. Thankfully it isnt that way. Quoting: Either you're with him or you're against him. Simple as that. If you're not with God you're with Satan. Quoting: It's that simple is it? Fool. This is not a football game. You are here to find the truth for yourself. Not to do what you are told. Talk about a slave mentality, "Either you're with him or you're against him.". So, if I don't pray to, fear and honor your God, then he will burn me? Can't you see how sick you sound? I feel sorry for you... Most christians don't realize they are with Satan! Jesus saving them by covering them in his blood, is about as satanic as you can get. Jesus did not institute their eucharist either, eating blood and bodies is a satanic ritual. Wearing crosses on a chain around necks with Jesus on it, is satanic, because you are being used to celebrate his being murdered on a cross. Only beloveds, guess what, he didn't die, which you bible tells you. He was not resurrected, he lived, was in a coma and when to Syria in a craft, which was not an ascension into heaven. The supposed ascension of his BODY into heaven, is but another satanic belief, which is about you getting to stay on satanic worlds like this one. Animal meat suits do not thrive on the higher worlds, if he kept his meat suit, they are telling you they think they succeeded in keep him ON this world. Ponder these things, if you are able to ponder at all. Pondering is good, its godly in fact. cmog530 User ID: /05/ :34 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 17

19 ... Why was this one word mistranslated? If that is possible, maybe many more passages in the bible are "mistranslated" also. You people will do anything to make the bible say what you want it to say. Why was this ONE WORD mistranslated? Silly. read some NDEs. Alot of people ask about the bible and which religion is right. And they always get the same answer. The religion that brings you closer to god and the bible isn't meant to be read literally, but spiritually as with all religious books. That is why there are 50 different factions of Christians all condemning each other to hell. They want to interpret the bible word for word in a logical sense. Doesn't work that way. I remember one NDE in which a man asked why there are so many condridictions (yeah I spelled that wrong) in the bible. He was told "there are no condridictions, your trying to read it with a brain and not a heart." Quoting: If that is true, why not look at all life and read it with the heart? There is truth all around us. What I am saying is that the bible is not the only truth available to us in the world if we listen and understand it with our hearts and not through our mind and through fear. See what I'm saying? If you do this, the truth of our reality can then be found in MANY books and through life all around us... What your first line said is what Jesus came here to teach. Live your life to the fullest and treat others with kindness and you will be blessed. You are born with everything you need to enter the kingdom of heaven. You know what right and wrong is. If you do or say something that makes you and/or others feel good about themselves then you did the right thing. This is getting closer to god. Killing someone does not bring out good emotions unless your sick in the head. You know you did wrong and you know you wronged the other person. That is moving away from god and thus is sin. It doesn't matter WHY you killed him. God will judge that action accordingly. Anything you do to bring out negative emotions is sinning. Anything you do to bring out positive emotions is a blessing. You don't need religion or even religious books (although they are great moral teachings and can help people who are lost) to go to heaven. Quoting: AH- Candace GLP # page. 18

20 I suggest actually hearing from Jesus, before you speak things that you don't know. God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :35 PM... read some NDEs. Alot of people ask about the bible and which religion is right. And they always get the same answer. The religion that brings you closer to god and the bible isn't meant to be read literally, but spiritually as with all religious books. That is why there are 50 different factions of Christians all condemning each other to hell. They want to interpret the bible word for word in a logical sense. Doesn't work that way. I remember one NDE in which a man asked why there are so many condridictions (yeah I spelled that wrong) in the bible. He was told "there are no condridictions, your trying to read it with a brain and not a heart." Quoting: If that is true, why not look at all life and read it with the heart? There is truth all around us. What I am saying is that the bible is not the only truth available to us in the world if we listen and understand it with our hearts and not through our mind and through fear. See what I'm saying? If you do this, the truth of our reality can then be found in MANY books and through life all around us... What your first line said is what Jesus came here to teach. Live your life to the fullest and treat others with kindness and you will be blessed. You are born with everything you need to enter the kingdom of heaven. You know what right and wrong is. If you do or say something that makes you and/or others feel good about themselves then you did the right thing. This is getting closer to god. Killing someone does not bring out good emotions unless your sick in the head. You know you did wrong and you know you wronged the other person. That is moving away from god and thus is -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 19

21 sin. It doesn't matter WHY you killed him. God will judge that action accordingly. Anything you do to bring out negative emotions is sinning. Anything you do to bring out positive emotions is a blessing. You don't need religion or even religious books (although they are great moral teachings and can help people who are lost) to go to heaven. Quoting: I suggest actually hearing from Jesus, before you speak things that you don't know. Quoting: cmog530 Most Christians have never heard from Jesus, please enlighten us about what you have heard. Much of your signature file is not correct, shall I shred it for you? cmog530 User ID: /05/ :38 PM Glory be to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!!! Quoting: cmog530 We are not lost children. Well, we aren't supposed to be... Says whom? When is the last time you did something wrong? But if you feared and respected Father, you wouldn't have done it, now would you? Only God's children will inherit the kingdom and they are those who obey His commands. For our benefit. Like I said to the other AC. Actually hear from the Lord, before you speak things that you do not know. Proverbs 3:5-7 and John 14:16. cmog530 User ID: /05/ :40 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 20

22 ... If that is true, why not look at all life and read it with the heart? There is truth all around us. What I am saying is that the bible is not the only truth available to us in the world if we listen and understand it with our hearts and not through our mind and through fear. See what I'm saying? If you do this, the truth of our reality can then be found in MANY books and through life all around us... What your first line said is what Jesus came here to teach. Live your life to the fullest and treat others with kindness and you will be blessed. You are born with everything you need to enter the kingdom of heaven. You know what right and wrong is. If you do or say something that makes you and/or others feel good about themselves then you did the right thing. This is getting closer to god. Killing someone does not bring out good emotions unless your sick in the head. You know you did wrong and you know you wronged the other person. That is moving away from god and thus is sin. It doesn't matter WHY you killed him. God will judge that action accordingly. Anything you do to bring out negative emotions is sinning. Anything you do to bring out positive emotions is a blessing. You don't need religion or even religious books (although they are great moral teachings and can help people who are lost) to go to heaven. Quoting: I suggest actually hearing from Jesus, before you speak things that you don't know. Quoting: cmog530 Most Christians have never heard from Jesus, please enlighten us about what you have heard. Much of your signature file is not correct, shall I shred it for you? Quoting: God Loves ALL Common sense statement. Doesn't God always speak to His people? If you don't hear from God, that should pretty much explain everything; Baptism Mark 16:16 16) He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. KJV John 3:3-8 3) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 21

23 4) Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8) The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. John 20:22 22) And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: KJV Acts 2:38 38) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. KJV Romans 8:9-14 9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10) And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11) But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. 12) Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13) For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14) For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. KJV 1 John 3:24 24) And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. KJV 1 John 5:7-8 7) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8) And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 22

24 1 Corinthians 12:3 3) Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. Acts 10 44) While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45) And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46) For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47) Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48) And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. Acts 8:37-40 KJV 37) And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38) And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39) And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. 40) But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Cæsarea. Acts 8:15-17 KJV 15) Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: 16) (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) 17) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. Acts 8:12 KJV But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Acts 5:29-32 KJV -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 23

25 29) Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. 30) The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. 31) Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. 32) And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. Acts 4:29-31 KJV 29) And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word, 30) By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus. 31) And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness. Acts 2:1-4 KJV 1) And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2) And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3) And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4) And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. Acts 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 24

26 Ghost as well as we? 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. Romans 5:3-11 KJV 3) And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; 4) And patience, experience; and experience, hope: 5) And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. 6) For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7) For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. 8) But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9) Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10) For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 11) And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. (OP) 11/05/ :42 PM Says whom? When is the last time you did something wrong? But if you feared and respected Father, you wouldn't have done it, now would you? Only God's children will inherit the kingdom and they are those who obey His commands. For our benefit. Like I said to the other AC. Actually hear from the Lord, before you speak things that you do not know. Proverbs 3:5-7 and John 14:16. Quoting: cmog530 Teaching through punishment is evil. It's is as simple as that. If you could just see that small truth, maybe we could find some common ground for discussion. Obviously we can't. (OP) 11/05/ :45 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 25

27 11) And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. Quoting: cmog530 Are you a robot just copying quotes from some book? Can't you speak for yourself? Are you just a lost controlled slave? THINK FOR YOURSELF! User ID: /05/ :48 PM... If that is true, why not look at all life and read it with the heart? There is truth all around us. What I am saying is that the bible is not the only truth available to us in the world if we listen and understand it with our hearts and not through our mind and through fear. See what I'm saying? If you do this, the truth of our reality can then be found in MANY books and through life all around us... What your first line said is what Jesus came here to teach. Live your life to the fullest and treat others with kindness and you will be blessed. You are born with everything you need to enter the kingdom of heaven. You know what right and wrong is. If you do or say something that makes you and/or others feel good about themselves then you did the right thing. This is getting closer to god. Killing someone does not bring out good emotions unless your sick in the head. You know you did wrong and you know you wronged the other person. That is moving away from god and thus is sin. It doesn't matter WHY you killed him. God will judge that action accordingly. Anything you do to bring out negative emotions is sinning. Anything you do to bring out positive emotions is a blessing. You don't need religion or even religious books (although they are great moral teachings and can help people who are lost) to go to heaven. Quoting: I suggest actually hearing from Jesus, before you speak things that you don't know. Quoting: cmog530 Most Christians have never heard from Jesus, please enlighten us about what you have heard. Much of your signature file is not correct, shall I shred it for you? -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 26

28 Quoting: God Loves ALL I was actually about to ask him the same thing. If Jesus's only purpose on earth was to die on the cross for our sins, I don't think he would have wasted much of his life teaching others how to find salvation. cmog530 User ID: /05/ :48 PM Says whom? When is the last time you did something wrong? But if you feared and respected Father, you wouldn't have done it, now would you? Only God's children will inherit the kingdom and they are those who obey His commands. For our benefit. Like I said to the other AC. Actually hear from the Lord, before you speak things that you do not know. Proverbs 3:5-7 and John 14:16. Quoting: cmog530 Teaching through punishment is evil. It's is as simple as that. If you could just see that small truth, maybe we could find some common ground for discussion. Obviously we can't. Again...when did God tell you that? (KJV)Proverbs 3:5-7 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. [6] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. [7] Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil. (KJV)Isaiah 55:6-9 Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: [7] Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. [8] For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. [9] For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 27

29 I think we both know that answer. Good day to you all. 35) Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbour, and every one to his brother, What hath the Lord answered? and, What hath the Lord spoken? 36) And the burden of the Lord shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the Lord of hosts our God. 37) Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath the Lord answered thee? and, What hath the Lord spoken? 38) But since ye say, The burden of the Lord; therefore thus saith the Lord; Because ye say this word, The burden of the Lord, and I have sent unto you, saying, Ye shall not say, The burden of the Lord; 39) Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence: KJV God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :52 PM... 11) And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. Quoting: cmog530 God speaks to his people by mind to mind thru meditation. Jesus did not atone for you, he cannot do that. I see that after my nap I need to come back and shred your signature file. The holy ghost within you, is the Father Fragment, not the 3rd person of Trinity as to your Romans quotes. Christ did not die for the ungodly. He did not die. His body lived until he was 115 years old, although it was desire that they thought he was dead, so he could go peacefully away to teach more hungry ears in other other lands without pursuit. Because you copy and paste, does not mean you hear from god or Jesus. The bible is not the word of god, it has too many lies in it to be that. If you hear from Jesus you hear mentally thru meditation. These people you quoted above, produced memorized hearsay plus much of it was corrupted later by your roman church and continues to be corrupted. The word JEW was not in the bible before the 1800's, as there were -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 28

30 NO JEWS back then, did you know that? Judeans, Hebrews, Semites, but not a single Jew. The Jew word is the creation of the Khazars for themselves in the 1700's and they put it in the bible so they could steal the so called "holy land" and created the Diaspora story which didn't happen either. Nobody... User ID: /05/ :54 PM Sir, what we fear, is dissapointing God, and we are in awe of God. We are not afraid of God, as you put it... The Phoenix User ID: Malaysia 11/05/ :56 PM Maybe it's just semantics- God Fearing (Fill blank with religion of your choice) or just how a plain marketing slogan went wrong. Could have sound better with God Loving Anyway, IMHO, to fear something usually would mean you do not understand it well enough. Not enough information, not enough wisdom to make your own judgement on the issue or just plain mis-information at work. It's not a good thing that you need to fear something to respect it. You can be awed by it, but something that instilling fear so that someone would believe what you preach is just so not civilized. God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :57 PM Sir, what we fear, is dissapointing God, and we are in awe of God. We are not afraid of God, as you put it... Quoting: Nobody but you are, you ones are afraid of his "hell fire". I know, I have conversed on this with many and it does not exist, it is the story created by the antichrist thugs. You want hellfire in fact This is what it means, as an acronym. HavingEverLastingLife, -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 29

31 FieryIntelligenceReasonatingEternally. See how the antichrist LIES to you? You are OF GOD and if you choose eternal life, you will be about working on becoming LIKE HIM. which Jesus taught! and is not understood. (OP) 11/05/ :57 PM Sir, what we fear, is dissapointing God, and we are in awe of God. We are not afraid of God, as you put it... Quoting: Nobody Come on, don't talk in circles. Fear means being afraid. You do speak English do you not? Oh, and so you needed to tell me that you are the Nobody? Why? Silly, lost, arrogant people. Sad really. (OP) 11/05/ :07 PM Again...when did God tell you that? Quoting: cmog530 I said that! Me! I can think for myself unlike you... (OP) 11/05/ :13 PM Maybe it's just semantics- God Fearing (Fill blank with religion of your choice) or just how a plain marketing slogan went wrong. Could have sound better with God Loving Anyway, IMHO, to fear something usually would mean you do not understand it well enough. Not enough information, not enough wisdom to make your own judgement on the issue or just plain mis-information at work. It's not a good thing that you need to fear something to respect it. You can be awed by it, but something that instilling fear so that someone would believe what you preach is just so not civilized. Quoting: The Phoenix -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 30

32 Not semantics. It's just a plain ass lie. Now, that's real truth! User ID: Netherlands 11/05/ :18 PM Why to fear doing wrong? Duh. (OP) 11/05/ :21 PM Why to fear doing wrong? Duh. Quoting: In truth, there is no doing wrong... Once you begin to understand that you can begin to free yourself. User ID: /05/ :26 PM there are two basic emotions Love...fear most people have all kinds of fears When one realizes that the worst possible thing anyone can do is offend God,they begin to re order their focus and how they organize their thinking and relationships. One's personal responsibility in that relationship is primary, not taking God and His Love for us for granted. Is fear merely animal based and self serving... or through conscious choice do we "begin" to engage in the most important relationship of this experience responsibly. User ID: Netherlands 11/05/ :29 PM Why to fear doing wrong? Duh. Quoting: In truth, there is no doing wrong... Once you begin to understand that you can begin to free yourself. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 31

33 Denial wont bring you nowhere. Duality is and will always be about choices. Do not choose tomorrow worse than yesterday. (OP) 11/05/ :31 PM there are two basic emotions Love...fear most people have all kinds of fears When one realizes that the worst possible thing anyone can do is offend God,they begin to re order their focus and how they organize their thinking and relationships. One's personal responsibility in that relationship is primary, not taking God and His Love for us for granted. Is fear merely animal based and self serving... or through conscious choice do we "begin" to engage in the most important relationship of this experience responsibly. Quoting: Why would God ever be offended? That is a flawed human emotion. Is he/she not a supreme, all knowing, all aware advanced being? Or is he just a control freak? Why would you be afraid of offending God? He wants you to become an all knowing and advanced being also... User ID: /05/ :31 PM OP's argument is that they re-defined the word fear? what if they redefined green too. what if grass is really pink? oh the lies we have been told. /sarcasm If you cant go by the definitions in the dictionary then nothing has meaning. Look up the definition so you know WTF your talking about. fear and afraid have different meanings in your first sentance vs your second sentance. Learn english MF! User ID: AH- Candace GLP # page. 32

34 11/05/ :31 PM It isn't "fear" as in "afraid" of. It's deep, profound, highest "respect" in awe - worship. We believers worship God. (OP) 11/05/ :32 PM Why to fear doing wrong? Duh. Quoting: In truth, there is no doing wrong... Once you begin to understand that you can begin to free yourself. Denial wont bring you nowhere. Duality is and will always be about choices. Do not choose tomorrow worse than yesterday. Quoting: What? User ID: Netherlands 11/05/ :33 PM Why would God ever be offended? For His Son being crucified by humans on Earth, may be?! (OP) 11/05/ :34 PM It isn't "fear" as in "afraid" of. It's deep, profound, highest "respect" in awe - worship. We believers worship God. Quoting: Worship means that you are a subject, child or possession of God. Lesser than God. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 33

35 I am not. I am a part of God... (OP) 11/05/ :35 PM Why would God ever be offended? For His Son being crucified by humans on Earth, may be?! Quoting: You don't have a clue... User ID: Netherlands 11/05/ :36 PM Why would God ever be offended? For His Son being crucified by humans on Earth, may be?! Quoting: You don't have a clue... Enlighten me. User ID: /05/ :37 PM A true all knowing and all wise supreme being should not be something to fear. In truth, this reality is SO much more than most people's silly childish understandings. God is within you. Not something above you or in control of you... that just reinforces how totally stupid religion is. Worship at the masters feet or he will burn you in hell. Sounds like Kim Jong lll to me. why the hell -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 34

36 would i want to go to heaven if i have to bow and kiss the ass of some grand master? shit is just stupid as hell User ID: Canada 11/05/ :39 PM fear is not love so NO I DO NOT FEAR GOD (OP) 11/05/ :40 PM Why would God ever be offended? For His Son being crucified by humans on Earth, may be?! Quoting: You don't have a clue... Enlighten me. Quoting: Come on. You wouldn't believe me if I did now would you? Be honest. Secondly, this void between us is too wide for us to have any common ground to have a real indepth discussion of God. Not that I would mind, but it would be a complete waste of our time. User ID: /05/ :45 PM "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom" Psalm 111:10 Quoting: Nam Marine User ID: Netherlands -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 35

37 11/05/ :46 PM... For His Son being crucified by humans on Earth, may be?! Quoting: You don't have a clue... Enlighten me. Quoting: Come on. You wouldn't believe me if I did now would you? Be honest. Secondly, this void between us is too wide for us to have any common ground to have a real indepth discussion of God. Not that I would mind, but it would be a complete waste of our time. It was you who said, you believe I have no clue. The next logical questions of mine is what do you mean by that? Basic conversation. User ID: /05/ :49 PM... read some NDEs. Alot of people ask about the bible and which religion is right. And they always get the same answer. The religion that brings you closer to god and the bible isn't meant to be read literally, but spiritually as with all religious books. That is why there are 50 different factions of Christians all condemning each other to hell. They want to interpret the bible word for word in a logical sense. Doesn't work that way. I remember one NDE in which a man asked why there are so many condridictions (yeah I spelled that wrong) in the bible. He was told "there are no condridictions, your trying to read it with a brain and not a heart." Quoting: AH- Candace GLP # page. 36

38 If that is true, why not look at all life and read it with the heart? There is truth all around us. What I am saying is that the bible is not the only truth available to us in the world if we listen and understand it with our hearts and not through our mind and through fear. See what I'm saying? If you do this, the truth of our reality can then be found in MANY books and through life all around us... What your first line said is what Jesus came here to teach. Live your life to the fullest and treat others with kindness and you will be blessed. You are born with everything you need to enter the kingdom of heaven. You know what right and wrong is. If you do or say something that makes you and/or others feel good about themselves then you did the right thing. This is getting closer to god. Killing someone does not bring out good emotions unless your sick in the head. You know you did wrong and you know you wronged the other person. That is moving away from god and thus is sin. It doesn't matter WHY you killed him. God will judge that action accordingly. Anything you do to bring out negative emotions is sinning. Anything you do to bring out positive emotions is a blessing. You don't need religion or even religious books (although they are great moral teachings and can help people who are lost) to go to heaven. Quoting: I suggest actually hearing from Jesus, before you speak things that you don't know. Quoting: cmog530 I agree!!!! Hello jesus!!? jesus you there???...hello chirp...chirp... (OP) 11/05/ :53 PM... You don't have a clue... Enlighten me. Quoting: AH- Candace GLP # page. 37

39 Come on. You wouldn't believe me if I did now would you? Be honest. Secondly, this void between us is too wide for us to have any common ground to have a real indepth discussion of God. Not that I would mind, but it would be a complete waste of our time. It was you who said, you believe I have no clue. The next logical questions of mine is what do you mean by that? Basic conversation. Quoting: I meant that you are so far from the real truth of who and what we really are, that we cannot find any common ground to discuss this very deep and important topic. That is not an attack, but the truth. That is what I meant by you not having a clue. Secondly, there is the issue of you already having made up your mind and it would not matter what I said anyway. That is completely ok. This life is about choice. All I am saying in this whole thread is this. Think for yourself. Understand that you were put on this planet to learn, not to be a controlled, guided and punished like a child or domesticated animal. We are here to walk our own path and to make our own choices. Not to be controlled or punished by some control freak in the sky. See? User ID: /05/ :54 PM do you fear the police? do you fear the courts? do you fear the judges? do you fear your teachers? do you fear your father? the answer can only be answered if you put 'fear' in perspective. you don't go around 'running away' from the above because you fear them -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 38

40 but if you are guilty of wrong doing, you become fearful of their judgements and punishments for your wrong doing. God is the epitomy of that. He loves you, but you should fear his wrath. He loves you because he has made a way to know him and understand him on a human level, by sending Jesus. He loves you because Jesus whom he sent, took the wrath of God that YOU deserve because you are a sinner, and that wrath will be thwarted on judgement day via Jesus if you believe in whom He says he is, and that you repent and have faith. God is to be feared for he is a jealous God, (as a husband would be jealous of his wife, a mother would be jealous of her child if they turned away from them and loved another). God hates sin, and he will punish it. No different then the judge in a court would judge you and penalize you for wrong doing. It's just the final judgement is forever. If you don't have faith in Jesus, you should fear that forever thing... User ID: /05/ :54 PM there are two basic emotions Love...fear most people have all kinds of fears When one realizes that the worst possible thing anyone can do is offend God,they begin to re order their focus and how they organize their thinking and relationships. One's personal responsibility in that relationship is primary, not taking God and His Love for us for granted. Is fear merely animal based and self serving... or through conscious choice do we "begin" to engage in the most important relationship of this experience responsibly. Quoting: Why would God ever be offended? That is a flawed human emotion. Is he/she not a supreme, all knowing, all aware advanced being? Or is he just a control freak? Why would you be afraid of offending God? He wants you to become an all knowing and advanced being also... Exactly, however it is a learning process and we are in our childhood. Clearly, God is not vulnerable to us. It is about us making conscious choices and the meaning of them. (OP) -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 39

41 11/05/ :57 PM there are two basic emotions Love...fear most people have all kinds of fears When one realizes that the worst possible thing anyone can do is offend God,they begin to re order their focus and how they organize their thinking and relationships. One's personal responsibility in that relationship is primary, not taking God and His Love for us for granted. Is fear merely animal based and self serving... or through conscious choice do we "begin" to engage in the most important relationship of this experience responsibly. Quoting: Why would God ever be offended? That is a flawed human emotion. Is he/she not a supreme, all knowing, all aware advanced being? Or is he just a control freak? Why would you be afraid of offending God? He wants you to become an all knowing and advanced being also... Exactly, however it is a learning process and we are in our childhood. Clearly, God is not vulnerable to us. It is about us making conscious choices and the meaning of them. Quoting: Well, in your religion, God would punish us with fire if we made wrong choices. Right? So, we learn from pain and suffering handed down by God? User ID: Netherlands 11/05/ :59 PM Understand that you were put on this planet By whom? (OP) 11/05/ :59 PM do you fear the police? do you fear the courts? do you fear the judges? do you fear your teachers? -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 40

42 do you fear your father? the answer can only be answered if you put 'fear' in perspective. you don't go around 'running away' from the above because you fear them but if you are guilty of wrong doing, you become fearful of their judgements and punishments for your wrong doing. God is the epitomy of that. He loves you, but you should fear his wrath. He loves you because he has made a way to know him and understand him on a human level, by sending Jesus. He loves you because Jesus whom he sent, took the wrath of God that YOU deserve because you are a sinner, and that wrath will be thwarted on judgement day via Jesus if you believe in whom He says he is, and that you repent and have faith. God is to be feared for he is a jealous God, (as a husband would be jealous of his wife, a mother would be jealous of her child if they turned away from them and loved another). God hates sin, and he will punish it. No different then the judge in a court would judge you and penalize you for wrong doing. It's just the final judgement is forever. If you don't have faith in Jesus, you should fear that forever thing... Quoting: That's sick. That is an abusive parent... No. I'll never believe that silliness. (OP) 11/05/ :00 PM Understand that you were put on this planet By whom? Quoting: By us... We volunteered to come here. To learn... God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :01 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 41

43 Why to fear doing wrong? Duh. Quoting: In truth, there is no doing wrong... Once you begin to understand that you can begin to free yourself. yes there is deliberate wrong doing on this plane, but mostly people are ignorant as shit of how god works. Man cannot perfect his knowing in a single life, and thus has many experiences via reincarnation to get someplace with it, but the reincarnation on this world is excessive, because of the iniquity still present here that confused people. Man does not need a bible or any other book, he just needs some decent teaching lest he forget what he does know, I guess anyway. I have no idea after incarnating here to study this religious bs on this world, how it holds such a grip over people. but it surely does. User ID: Netherlands 11/05/ :01 PM Understand that you were put on this planet By whom? Quoting: By us... We volunteered to come here. To learn... Where from? (OP) -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 42

44 11/05/ :03 PM Understand that you were put on this planet By whom? Quoting: By us... We volunteered to come here. To learn... Where from? Quoting: Like I said, you have no clue. You are just baiting me. You don't really want to learn anything, you just want to argue. You answer this question for yourself... User ID: Netherlands 11/05/ :04 PM... By whom? Quoting: By us... We volunteered to come here. To learn... Where from? Quoting: Like I said, you have no clue. You are just baiting me. You don't really want to learn anything, you just want to argue. You answer this question for yourself AH- Candace GLP # page. 43

45 I did already. What is yours? God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :05 PM Understand that you were put on this planet By whom? Quoting: By us... We volunteered to come here. To learn... there are basically three groups here, the ones of the Lucifer Rebellion who agreed to come here so they could understand... for they didn't, and I don't know why. And the ones evolving on this world...no of the lucifer rebellion and those of us who do come by intent for its value and to serve its uplifting. This is a study world for those from paradise too, because of the lessons in FUCK up that are on this world. And I should add a 4th group, those made over the long years in the underground labs here, who were created stupid on purpose as a way for the thugs to destroy God on this world and its working well. These are the robotoids, the automatons who do not reason and rarely survive to being any sort of eternal life. These are the one who most attend churches. Because they cannot reason and the churches were in part created to control them. And by churches, I mean the Islamic ones too. All these institutions. This is a multifaceted world. User ID: United Kingdom -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 44

46 11/05/ :05 PM There was a passage in the Old Testament book of Isiah 14:12 which prophesied the overthrow of Babylon's king, stating: 'How are you fallen from heaven, day star, son of the dawn!' As is made clear by the term 'son of the dawn', the Isaiah reference was to the King of Babylon, but astronomically the 'day star' or 'morning star' is Venus, which appears in the sky before sunrise. In Latin, Venus 'the light-bringer' was referred to as the lux-fer, or as it was more commonly written, 'the lucifer'. Prior to 1667, the term lucifer (lux-fer: 'light-bringer') had never been associated with a male entity - and certainly not with an evil Satan. Even after Milton's death, in 18th century dictionaries, the correct reference is given. For instance, the Nathan Bailey's Etymological Dictionary states: 'Lucifer - The morning or day star; the planet Venus, when it rises before the sun'. But, notwithstanding, following Milton's lead, Freemasons were now not only sun cultists - they were also satanists! theres your devil. God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :07 PM Why would God ever be offended? For His Son being crucified by humans on Earth, may be?! Quoting: what kind of BS is this? You too bought the "only son of God" story? Put on your mind. All THINKING beings are Sons of God in various stages of development. You do not understand the Father at all, if you can make such a statement as this. The Father cannot be offended. The Father is the Creative MIND, and although he counts as a person, he is much more than you ones think he is. He is intact thru the Trinity, the entirety of the creation. There are 5.6 TRILLION planets with evolutionary life that has evolved thinking people. And that doesn't include the planets that are seeded with Life but have not yet developed intelligent mind. And it doesn't include those planets that went into light and life, eternity and are then removed from the evolutionary planet counts. Then there are the billions and billions of "heaven worlds" which are custom built worlds you EARN at some point and on which the angels are created and live who serve the Creation. When the 7 superuniverses are "complete" there will be about 7 trillion evolutionary worlds, and about -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 45

47 500 billon heaven worlds and that is not the END, for in the very outer space WE SEE here now, there are almost uncountable new universes forming. There are now 700,000 universes in development which does not include those in the outer space rings. Do you ones thus GET HOW BIG THE TRINITY as GOD IS? God did not create one little son, 2nd person Trinity to come to this ignorant planet. OK GET THAT, its big out there. And all of OUT THERE IS PLANNED AND MANAGED. Grow up people, you have the benefit of the Hubble now, and it picks up some of the milky Way, which is but part of one Superuniverse, and a bunch of the new stuff forming in the outer space rings. The CREATION IS MASSIVE and continues to grow more Massive. I would suggest some of you in your ignorance put away which ever stupid dumb holy book you follow, for they all are, and start reading WALTER RUSSELL a great Christ who this past century illumined the world, or tried to, about the nature of God and how God creates. Most of the rules etc are rules by Hierarchy which if followed would cause this planet to finally come into balance. That it is tilted, says it is not in balance, if it were, it would hang straight up and down and there would be no seasons. Man is horrificially unbalanced on this world and he has little time to balanced himself, because of the energy cycles we have moved into, like that photon belt, plus the energies of the Milky Way, plus the Wave from Paradise /b] (OP) 11/05/ :08 PM Why to fear doing wrong? Duh. Quoting: In truth, there is no doing wrong... Once you begin to understand that you can begin to free yourself. yes there is deliberate wrong doing on this plane, but mostly people are ignorant as shit of how god works. Man cannot perfect his knowing in a single life, and thus has many experiences via reincarnation to get someplace with it, but the reincarnation on this world is excessive, because of the iniquity still present here that confused people. Man does not need a bible or any other book, he just needs some decent teaching lest he forget what he does know, I guess anyway. I have no idea after incarnating here to study this religious bs on this world, how it holds such a grip over people. but it surely does. Quoting: God Loves ALL What I meant by this last post is that yes, there is wrong, but we learn from our mistakes as well as from our successes. I did not mean that there are not wrong choices, but whether or not we learn from our wrong choices. We certainly don't need to be punished or rewarded by some evil control freak in the sky they call God when we make a choice. I agree with your posts here. Thanks. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 46

48 User ID: /05/ :08 PM It isn't "fear" as in "afraid" of. It's deep, profound, highest "respect" in awe - worship. We believers worship God. Quoting: Worship means that you are a subject, child or possession of God. Lesser than God. I am not. I am a part of God... Worship means to respect God. You respect your earthly parents and should respect your creator even more. User ID: Netherlands 11/05/ :09 PM Why would God ever be offended? For His Son being crucified by humans on Earth, may be?! Quoting: what kind of BS is this? You too bought the "only son of God" story? Put on your mind. All THINKING beings are Sons of God in various stages of development. You do not understand the Father at all, if you can make such a statement as this. The Father cannot be offended. Quoting: God Loves ALL You confuse the father of yours with your Creator. LOL (OP) 11/05/ :13 PM Understand that you were put on this planet By whom? Quoting: AH- Candace GLP # page. 47

49 By us... We volunteered to come here. To learn... there are basically three groups here, the ones of the Lucifer Rebellion who agreed to come here so they could understand... for they didn't, and I don't know why. And the ones evolving on this world...no of the lucifer rebellion and those of us who do come by intent for its value and to serve its uplifting. This is a study world for those from paradise too, because of the lessons in FUCK up that are on this world. And I should add a 4th group, those made over the long years in the underground labs here, who were created stupid on purpose as a way for the thugs to destroy God on this world and its working well. These are the robotoids, the automatons who do not reason and rarely survive to being any sort of eternal life. These are the one who most attend churches. Because they cannot reason and the churches were in part created to control them. And by churches, I mean the Islamic ones too. All these institutions. This is a multifaceted world. Quoting: God Loves ALL Yes it is. Quote: "and those of us who do come by intent for its value and to serve its uplifting." I call these beings the Wanderers... Quote: "These are the robotoids, the automatons who do not reason and rarely survive to being any sort of eternal life." I see these beings as "souless". In other words they are are only physical earthly beings. Thanks Resister In God we trust User ID: /05/ :18 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 48

50 "Fear", like many English words has different meanings depending on context. The phrase "Godfearing" does not relate anxiety or worry about a danger, but reverance and respect. Get a dictionary and look it up. The same is true for the phrase "fearfully and wonderfully made" which is a quote from the Bible. It doesn't mean to be worried about the danger of our creation, but to have awe and respect for how complex we are. User ID: United Kingdom 11/05/ :24 PM Throughout the patriarchal era, the emergent Hebrews endeavoured to support Adon the Lord but, at every turn, El Shaddai (the storm god Jehovah) retaliated with floods, tempests, famines and general destruction. Even at the time of the Captivity (around 586 BC), the Bible explains that Jerusalem was overthrown at Jehovah's bidding. Tens of thousands of Israelites were then taken hostage into Babylon simply because one of their past kings (a descendant of King David) had erected altars in veneration of Baal the Adon. It was during the course of this Captivity that the Israelites finally conceded. They decided, after generations of Adon support, to succumb to the opposing god of wrath, developing a new religion out of sheer fear of his retribution. It was, in fact, at this time that the apparent name of Jehovah first appeared - little more than 500 years before the time of Jesus. Subsequently, the Christian Church took Jehovah on board as well, calling him simply God, and all the hitherto social concepts of Adon were totally discarded. The two religions were henceforth both faiths of fear, and even today their followers are classified as 'God fearing'. (OP) 11/05/ :27 PM Throughout the patriarchal era, the emergent Hebrews endeavoured to support Adon the Lord but, at every turn, El Shaddai (the storm god Jehovah) retaliated with floods, tempests, famines and general destruction. Even at the time of the Captivity (around 586 BC), the Bible explains that Jerusalem was overthrown at Jehovah's bidding. Tens of thousands of Israelites were then taken hostage into Babylon simply because one of their past kings (a descendant of King David) had erected altars in veneration of Baal the Adon. It was during the course of this Captivity that the Israelites finally conceded. They decided, after generations of Adon support, to succumb to the opposing god of wrath, developing a new religion out of sheer fear of his retribution. It was, in fact, at this time that the apparent name of Jehovah first appeared - little more than 500 years before the time of Jesus. Subsequently, the Christian Church took Jehovah on board as well, calling him simply God, and all the hitherto social concepts of Adon were totally discarded. The two religions were henceforth both faiths of fear, and even today their followers are classified as 'God fearing'. Quoting: I don't have this knowledge, but I know that being "God fearing" does not bring these poor souls any peace AH- Candace GLP # page. 49

51 User ID: United Kingdom 11/05/ :29 PM Indeed it doesn't. its much like, from what i am understanding of the sumerian texts that have been found and recovered, the modern day equivalent of the word messiah turns out to be military leader. Serenity777 User ID: /05/ :31 PM Because fear is what their religion is based upon. Fear is also what a dark God would expect. Therefore by default...most of them are worshiping the EXACT OPPOSITE of that which they claim to. (OP) 11/05/ :31 PM Indeed it doesn't. its much like, from what i am understanding of the sumerian texts that have been found and recovered, the modern day equivalent of the word messiah turns out to be military leader. Quoting: Not finding peace should be a clue to them that something is not right. Listen to your heart. If it feels wrong, then question what you believe. (OP) 11/05/ :32 PM Because fear is what their religion is based upon. Fear is also what a dark God would expect. Therefore by default...most of them are worshiping the EXACT OPPOSITE of that which they claim to. Quoting: Serenity777 That is what I feel also. Thanks. User ID: United Kingdom -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 50

52 11/05/ :32 PM Because fear is what their religion is based upon. Fear is also what a dark God would expect. Therefore by default...most of them are worshiping the EXACT OPPOSITE of that which they claim to. Quoting: Serenity777 THIS=BINGO! (OP) 11/05/ :35 PM The beings that have incarnated here right now that I referred to earlier as the Wanderers have a very hard time even understanding this insane religious concept. I feel the same way... Godiam User ID: Australia 11/05/ :35 PM God is Love! Fear is the opposite of Love! How can one fear Love? OP is right, God is within, we are all a part of God! Godiam User ID: /05/ :42 PM 1700 years ago, or so, when Christianity came into being, the primitive consciousness of the time lived a life that was brief, perilous and either crushingly mundane or violent. The solid earth born self should be afraid of God, It's so far beyond it's understanding. Fear is the natural response of the person attached to personality. Because death (and God) does threaten All That Tower of Babbel of ego and personality. Let go totally or admit to (some) fear. (OP) 11/05/ :44 PM God is Love! Fear is the opposite of Love! -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 51

53 How can one fear Love? OP is right, God is within, we are all a part of God! Godiam Quoting: Godiam Yes, I just can't grasp how people would think fearing their God makes any sense. *sigh* ****SUPERFLY**** Did I invite you to my Hologram? User ID: /05/ :54 PM In fact, dear Chsristians.. To fear God is TO OFFEND GOD! Think about it.. He created us, HE GAVE US FREE WILL.. AND YOU CHOOSE TO FEAR?? GETOUTTAHEA' Quoting: ExTraDimensionaL777 If MY children told me they feared me...i would assume I did things to their minds that would be referred to as.. criminal!!!! God is NOT a criminal and neither am I! Fear causes people to live a shorter life. Period! End of story! User ID: Poland 11/05/ :02 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 52

54 The God of the Hebrews is an Evil Tyrant. Read the Old Testament fer crying out loud! User ID: Canada 11/05/ :05 PM User ID: Poland 11/05/ :06 PM God is Love! Fear is the opposite of Love! How can one fear Love? OP is right, God is within, we are all a part of God! Godiam Quoting: Godiam Yes, I just can't grasp how people would think fearing their God makes any sense. *sigh* They are instructed ad infinitum to fear "God" in the buy-bull - its repeated like 100s of times - it even says that 'the fear of Yahweh is his greatest treasure'. What kind of a sick fuck is this Yahweh? Sounds like a demon to me. Or Satan. (OP) 11/05/ :08 PM The beings that have incarnated here right now that I referred to earlier as the Wanderers have a very hard time even understanding this insane religious concept. I feel the same way... I doubt that many people even realize that there are beings here for different purposes. It explains a lot. User ID: Canada -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 53

55 11/05/ :20 PM The Christian God is known to smite people that he does not like. He is not very nice, but not as that foul Islamic piece of shit god. If you need a god there are better ones to choose from. (OP) 11/05/ :27 PM The Christian God is known to smite people that he does not like. He is not very nice, but not as that foul Islamic piece of shit god. If you need a god there are better ones to choose from. Quoting: It's not a matter of picking and choosing. The question is what is the truth. What is this reality all about and why are we here. I am simply amazed that people are asking this question! They talk about politics, TV, sex, sports conspiracies, but not what really matters. You only have a very short time in each life to figure out these issues and people spend it on EVERYTHING but pursuing the truth... That is really sad. God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :32 PM The Christian God is known to smite people that he does not like. He is not very nice, but not as that foul Islamic piece of shit god. If you need a god there are better ones to choose from. Quoting: It's not a matter of picking and choosing. The question is what is the truth. What is this reality all about and why are we here. I am simply amazed that people are asking this question! They talk about politics, TV, sex, sports conspiracies, but not what really matters. You only have a very short time in each life to figure out these issues and people spend it on EVERYTHING but pursuing the truth AH- Candace GLP # page. 54

56 That is really sad. Yes it is sad and true. The Father of Jesus, is exactly the same Father of all of you, the Creator of the creation and you are part of him. the Christian God is mostly myth and misunderstanding. A lot of islam was developed by that evil Catholic Whore of Babylon church too. But Mohammed was a Christ and a lovely person whose work was also destroyed and misunderstood. Religion is used to get different races to kill each other, and it sure works, doesn't it. And politics, sex, sports are all used to divide too. And get followers. Why man will follow these sports on TV is also beyond understanding, as well as political parties, they are all creations of those "devils" that walk on two legs in this world. If you want TRUTH, written in MODERN times about the nature of God and how God creations, I would suggest delving into Walter Russell. It completely explains how go made them male and female, in his creation, right down to father Hydrogen and MOther Oxygen who unite to form a new child, WATER. The CREATOR made all things, and he made all thinks male and female but how that works is not understood. Walter makes it understandable and he makes it understandable how MAN becomes a Son of God, when he becomes Cosmic MAN and not too many here are that. I AM. You are all sons of God, but unknowing sons of God at this point. well most of you, some on glp know what they are. In each life, most make little to no progress on this world which IS terribly sad and there are many of us from "heaven" who are here trying to help you understand, but you don't want to know. User ID: Canada 11/05/ :33 PM The Christian God is known to smite people that he does not like. He is not very nice, but not as that foul Islamic piece of shit god. If you need a god there are better ones to choose from. Quoting: It's not a matter of picking and choosing. The question is what is the truth. What is this reality all about and why are we here. I am simply amazed that people are asking this question! They talk about politics, TV, sex, sports conspiracies, but not what really matters. You only have a very short time in each life to figure out these issues and people spend it on EVERYTHING but pursuing the truth... That is really sad. Of course it is a matter of choosing. Some people do not choose to adhere to any of the gods. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 55

57 Each person looks out at the world and within the limitations of their faculties decides which if any of them is the one they like. People with more intelligence than the tv and sex crowd ask existential questions and use deduction to decide which if any they will choose. If their choice of god is not a free one, if they are coerced or conditioned, it sucks because if they decide they do not like the one they have been forced to adhere to, they have to disentangle themselves from the dogma surrounding it first. User ID: /05/ :37 PM... You don't have a clue... Enlighten me. Quoting: Come on. You wouldn't believe me if I did now would you? Be honest. Secondly, this void between us is too wide for us to have any common ground to have a real indepth discussion of God. Not that I would mind, but it would be a complete waste of our time. It was you who said, you believe I have no clue. The next logical questions of mine is what do you mean by that? Basic conversation. Quoting: Logic and reason are enemies of truth User ID: /05/ :38 PM A true all knowing and all wise supreme being should not be something to fear. In truth, this reality is SO much more than most people's silly childish understandings. God is within you. Not something above you or in control of you AH- Candace GLP # page. 56

58 You seem as if you need others to agree with you in order for your rationale to be substantiated in your mind. Frankly, you have no idea what you're "saying." Words are easy to say, but your words only have meaning if they have power. Yours don't. However, if I say that God is in perfect control over everything and everyone, including you in your disbelief, then that is powerful. This is not something I expect you to understand, but I felt it was appropriate to warn you of your impending fall, off your "mountain," so that when you fall you may be granted the ability to re-think your stance. That won't be your choice, though. God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :41 PM A true all knowing and all wise supreme being should not be something to fear. In truth, this reality is SO much more than most people's silly childish understandings. God is within you. Not something above you or in control of you... You seem as if you need others to agree with you in order for your rationale to be substantiated in your mind. Frankly, you have no idea what you're "saying." Words are easy to say, but your words only have meaning if they have power. Yours don't. However, if I say that God is in perfect control over everything and everyone, including you in your disbelief, then that is powerful. This is not something I expect you to understand, but I felt it was appropriate to warn you of your impending fall, off your "mountain," so that when you fall you may be granted the ability to re-think your stance. That won't be your choice, though. Quoting: AC above spoke GREAT TRUTH. He does know what he is saying and it is YOU who does not. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 57

59 User ID: /05/ :43 PM A true all knowing and all wise supreme being should not be something to fear. In truth, this reality is SO much more than most people's silly childish understandings. God is within you. Not something above you or in control of you... You seem as if you need others to agree with you in order for your rationale to be substantiated in your mind. Frankly, you have no idea what you're "saying." Words are easy to say, but your words only have meaning if they have power. Yours don't. However, if I say that God is in perfect control over everything and everyone, including you in your disbelief, then that is powerful. This is not something I expect you to understand, but I felt it was appropriate to warn you of your impending fall, off your "mountain," so that when you fall you may be granted the ability to re-think your stance. That won't be your choice, though. Quoting: AC above spoke GREAT TRUTH. He does know what he is saying and it is YOU who does not. Quoting: God Loves ALL (OP) 11/05/ :45 PM The Christian God is known to smite people that he does not like. He is not very nice, but not as that foul Islamic piece of shit god. If you need a god there are better ones to choose from. Quoting: It's not a matter of picking and choosing. The question is what is the truth. What is this reality all about and why are we here. I am simply amazed that people are asking this question! They talk about politics, TV, sex, sports conspiracies, but not what really matters. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 58

60 You only have a very short time in each life to figure out these issues and people spend it on EVERYTHING but pursuing the truth... That is really sad. Yes it is sad and true. The Father of Jesus, is exactly the same Father of all of you, the Creator of the creation and you are part of him. the Christian God is mostly myth and misunderstanding. A lot of islam was developed by that evil Catholic Whore of Babylon church too. But Mohammed was a Christ and a lovely person whose work was also destroyed and misunderstood. Religion is used to get different races to kill each other, and it sure works, doesn't it. And politics, sex, sports are all used to divide too. And get followers. Why man will follow these sports on TV is also beyond understanding, as well as political parties, they are all creations of those "devils" that walk on two legs in this world. If you want TRUTH, written in MODERN times about the nature of God and how God creations, I would suggest delving into Walter Russell. It completely explains how go made them male and female, in his creation, right down to father Hydrogen and MOther Oxygen who unite to form a new child, WATER. The CREATOR made all things, and he made all thinks male and female but how that works is not understood. Walter makes it understandable and he makes it understandable how MAN becomes a Son of God, when he becomes Cosmic MAN and not too many here are that. I AM. You are all sons of God, but unknowing sons of God at this point. well most of you, some on glp know what they are. In each life, most make little to no progress on this world which IS terribly sad and there are many of us from "heaven" who are here trying to help you understand, but you don't want to know. Quoting: God Loves ALL It is interesting that you say this. My reading material and the truth for me is found in books by the following: Walter Russell Nikola Tesla Buckminster Fuller Carlos Casteneda Richard Bach Tao Te Ching The work of Marko Rodin and a few others. *smile* And yes, to be honest, I believe that I am a Wanderer... God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: AH- Candace GLP # page. 59

61 11/05/ :45 PM... Enlighten me. Quoting: Come on. You wouldn't believe me if I did now would you? Be honest. Secondly, this void between us is too wide for us to have any common ground to have a real indepth discussion of God. Not that I would mind, but it would be a complete waste of our time. It was you who said, you believe I have no clue. The next logical questions of mine is what do you mean by that? Basic conversation. Quoting: Logic and reason are enemies of truth Quoting: REALLY? NOW where did you get that DUMB idea? Logic and reason will produce the truth. Because so many of this world prefer fairy tales, they "believe" the bs of religion. Jesus taught that man who will not learn the nature of God by studying Nature, will remain FOOLS. (OP) 11/05/ :52 PM REALLY? NOW where did you get that DUMB idea? Logic and reason will produce the truth. Because so many of this world prefer fairy tales, they "believe" the bs of religion. Jesus taught that man who will not learn the nature of God by studying Nature, will remain FOOLS. Quoting: God Loves ALL Yes. Jesus and many others taught us this. Such as the great work called the Tao Te Ching. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 60

62 Nature can lead us Home. If we find some time alone, stop the mind's constant noise and sit in nature, we can then begin to understand what this reality is all about. No one can do this for us. No teacher, guide, guru, priest or master can do this for us. Just follow your heart... User ID: /05/ :54 PM... Come on. You wouldn't believe me if I did now would you? Be honest. Secondly, this void between us is too wide for us to have any common ground to have a real indepth discussion of God. Not that I would mind, but it would be a complete waste of our time. It was you who said, you believe I have no clue. The next logical questions of mine is what do you mean by that? Basic conversation. Quoting: Logic and reason are enemies of truth Quoting: REALLY? NOW where did you get that DUMB idea? Logic and reason will produce the truth. Because so many of this world prefer fairy tales, they "believe" the bs of religion. Jesus taught that man who will not learn the nature of God by studying Nature, will remain FOOLS. Quoting: God Loves ALL You are born with "Truth", then the ememy starts to infest our fractured minds and convince us through our "Wonderful" gift of thought of what's true and what's not. Logic begins to reason, then the reason becomes nothing more than a rational excuse to back up the minds illusion of materialism. The end is where you begin, the end is "Truth" In the end we are all living in our own delusion, when you destroy your own delusion you may know "Truth" God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: AH- Candace GLP # page. 61

63 11/05/ :56 PM The Christian God is known to smite people that he does not like. He is not very nice, but not as that foul Islamic piece of shit god. If you need a god there are better ones to choose from. Quoting: It's not a matter of picking and choosing. The question is what is the truth. What is this reality all about and why are we here. I am simply amazed that people are asking this question! They talk about politics, TV, sex, sports conspiracies, but not what really matters. You only have a very short time in each life to figure out these issues and people spend it on EVERYTHING but pursuing the truth... That is really sad. Yes it is sad and true. The Father of Jesus, is exactly the same Father of all of you, the Creator of the creation and you are part of him. the Christian God is mostly myth and misunderstanding. A lot of islam was developed by that evil Catholic Whore of Babylon church too. But Mohammed was a Christ and a lovely person whose work was also destroyed and misunderstood. Religion is used to get different races to kill each other, and it sure works, doesn't it. And politics, sex, sports are all used to divide too. And get followers. Why man will follow these sports on TV is also beyond understanding, as well as political parties, they are all creations of those "devils" that walk on two legs in this world. If you want TRUTH, written in MODERN times about the nature of God and how God creations, I would suggest delving into Walter Russell. It completely explains how go made them male and female, in his creation, right down to father Hydrogen and MOther Oxygen who unite to form a new child, WATER. The CREATOR made all things, and he made all thinks male and female but how that works is not understood. Walter makes it understandable and he makes it understandable how MAN becomes a Son of God, when he becomes Cosmic MAN and not too many here are that. I AM. You are all sons of God, but unknowing sons of God at this point. well most of you, some on glp know what they are. In each life, most make little to no progress on this world which IS terribly sad and there are many of us from "heaven" who are here trying to help you understand, but you don't want to know. Quoting: God Loves ALL -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 62

64 It is interesting that you say this. My reading material and the truth for me is found in books by the following: Walter Russell Nikola Tesla Buckminster Fuller Carlos Casteneda Richard Bach Tao Te Ching The work of Marko Rodin and a few others. *smile* And yes, to be honest, I believe that I am a Wanderer... I keep hearing about Fuller, I should check him out. I am currently in love with Walter Russell, it is so good...he explains all the truth as to science and I was never able to accept and major in, man's version of science. I would not go into something in which I was forced to tell fairy tales, as the science I grew up with was just that and I suspect the public science still is. A lot of us wandered here to earth for various reasons, on purpose. I love TEslas work and his magnetic motor has been removed from the net. and somehow got removed from my old computer and backup too. I have read some of CAsteneda. and some of Tao. User ID: /05/ :03 PM God is Love! Fear is the opposite of Love! How can one fear Love? OP is right, God is within, we are all a part of God! Quoting: Godiam We are talking about the literal Creator of the Universe, and the one who breathed life into us. It doesn't matter one bit if you disapprove of the particular word usage. It is a fear born out of ultimate respect and reverence for the Creator. If you lose that reverence for God, you are going to inevitably turn to darkness and emptiness. Fearing God is the most healthy thing for your body and soul. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 63

65 Fear of God would be the best thing in the world for you. It is an act of Love to command reverence. Look what happens when you lose respect for your Creator. You begin ranting about "god is within us, we are all god". This is morally relativistic new age garbage. There is no truth in it. You think because you use nice words like "LOVE!!!" more often that it makes it true? That's how a salesman talks. Nice words are meaningless. The real, rock solid TRUTH is what matters. TRUTH DOES NOT REQUIRE APPROVAL. Christ is the Way the Truth and the Life, and the only way to salvation with the Creator. (OP) 11/05/ :04 PM... It's not a matter of picking and choosing. The question is what is the truth. What is this reality all about and why are we here. I am simply amazed that people are asking this question! They talk about politics, TV, sex, sports conspiracies, but not what really matters. You only have a very short time in each life to figure out these issues and people spend it on EVERYTHING but pursuing the truth... That is really sad. Yes it is sad and true. The Father of Jesus, is exactly the same Father of all of you, the Creator of the creation and you are part of him. the Christian God is mostly myth and misunderstanding. A lot of islam was developed by that evil Catholic Whore of Babylon church too. But Mohammed was a Christ and a lovely person whose work was also destroyed and misunderstood. Religion is used to get different races to kill each other, and it sure works, doesn't it. And politics, sex, sports are all used to divide too. And get followers. Why man will follow these sports on TV is also beyond understanding, as well as political parties, they are all creations of those "devils" that walk on two legs in this world. If you want TRUTH, written in MODERN times about the nature of God and how God creations, I would suggest delving into Walter Russell. It completely explains how go made them male and female, in his creation, right down to father Hydrogen and MOther Oxygen who unite to form a new child, WATER. The CREATOR made all things, and he made all thinks male and female but how that works is not understood. Walter makes it understandable and he makes it understandable how MAN becomes a Son of God, when he becomes Cosmic MAN and not too many here are that. I AM. You are all sons of God, but unknowing sons of God at this point. well most of you, some on glp know what -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 64

66 they are. In each life, most make little to no progress on this world which IS terribly sad and there are many of us from "heaven" who are here trying to help you understand, but you don't want to know. Quoting: God Loves ALL It is interesting that you say this. My reading material and the truth for me is found in books by the following: Walter Russell Nikola Tesla Buckminster Fuller Carlos Casteneda Richard Bach Tao Te Ching The work of Marko Rodin and a few others. *smile* And yes, to be honest, I believe that I am a Wanderer... I keep hearing about Fuller, I should check him out. I am currently in love with Walter Russell, it is so good...he explains all the truth as to science and I was never able to accept and major in, man's version of science. I would not go into something in which I was forced to tell fairy tales, as the science I grew up with was just that and I suspect the public science still is. A lot of us wandered here to earth for various reasons, on purpose. I love TEslas work and his magnetic motor has been removed from the net. and somehow got removed from my old computer and backup too. I have read some of CAsteneda. and some of Tao. Quoting: God Loves ALL In my humble view, Russell, Fuller, Tesla and Rodin are all telling us what our reality is and how it works. It is about energy, magnetics and vortexes... The why comes from the Tao Te Ching and Casteneda, especially his book, Journey to Ixtlan Kirk User ID: /05/ :11 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 65

67 proper translation is respect Quoting: Quoting: proper translation is respect Quoting: Quoting: if not respect what is it? (OP) 11/05/ :12 PM proper translation is respect Quoting: AH- Candace GLP # page. 66

68 Quoting: proper translation is respect Quoting: Quoting: if not respect what is it? Quoting: Kirk Misunderstanding? God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :16 PM... It was you who said, you believe I have no clue. The next logical questions of mine is what do you mean by that? -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 67

69 Basic conversation. Quoting: Logic and reason are enemies of truth Quoting: REALLY? NOW where did you get that DUMB idea? Logic and reason will produce the truth. Because so many of this world prefer fairy tales, they "believe" the bs of religion. Jesus taught that man who will not learn the nature of God by studying Nature, will remain FOOLS. Quoting: God Loves ALL You are born with "Truth", then the ememy starts to infest our fractured minds and convince us through our "Wonderful" gift of thought of what's true and what's not. Logic begins to reason, then the reason becomes nothing more than a rational excuse to back up the minds illusion of materialism. The end is where you begin, the end is "Truth" In the end we are all living in our own delusion, when you destroy your own delusion you may know "Truth" Quoting: NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. User ID: /05/ :17 PM In my humble view, Russell, Fuller, Tesla and Rodin are all telling us what our reality is and how it works. It is about energy, magnetics and vortexes... The why comes from the Tao Te Ching and Casteneda, especially his book, Journey to Ixtlan. You are following empty shadows to nowhere. Energy, magnetics, and vortexes do not create the physical reality nor the very natural laws which those energies are beholden to. Our reality stems from a supreme Intelligent, Moral Creator God. We learn about this Truth in the intricate specified complexity of biological systems. These were intelligently designed, not the result of swirling energy fields. You can't escape the Absolute Truth of God. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 68

70 understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:20 (OP) 11/05/ :21 PM In my humble view, Russell, Fuller, Tesla and Rodin are all telling us what our reality is and how it works. It is about energy, magnetics and vortexes... The why comes from the Tao Te Ching and Casteneda, especially his book, Journey to Ixtlan. You are following empty shadows to nowhere. Energy, magnetics, and vortexes do not create the physical reality nor the very natural laws which those energies are beholden to. Our reality stems from a supreme Intelligent, Moral Creator God. We learn about this Truth in the intricate specified complexity of biological systems. These were intelligently designed, not the result of swirling energy fields. You can't escape the Absolute Truth of God. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:20 Quoting: Words from someone who follows a book that the author is unknown, the content is misleading and full of contradictions and the message just causes people to become even more lost... Your choice. (OP) 11/05/ :30 PM NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. Quoting: God Loves ALL -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 69

71 Yes. This is a very solitary journey. It is a time to be brave and stand alone, following your own truth. User ID: /05/ :31 PM In my humble view, Russell, Fuller, Tesla and Rodin are all telling us what our reality is and how it works. It is about energy, magnetics and vortexes... The why comes from the Tao Te Ching and Casteneda, especially his book, Journey to Ixtlan. You are following empty shadows to nowhere. Energy, magnetics, and vortexes do not create the physical reality nor the very natural laws which those energies are beholden to. Our reality stems from a supreme Intelligent, Moral Creator God. We learn about this Truth in the intricate specified complexity of biological systems. These were intelligently designed, not the result of swirling energy fields. You can't escape the Absolute Truth of God. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:20 Quoting: Words from someone who follows a book that the author is unknown, the content is misleading and full of contradictions and the message just causes people to become even more lost... Your choice. That Book is the Word of God. When you stray from it you begin ranting about utter nonsense, like your previous post about reality being the product of vortexes. Similar to the athiestic delusion of everything being the product of mystical random forces and mutations. DNA alone refutes all of your superstitious mystical beliefs. All of nature points back to an intelligent, purposeful designing Creator. User ID: AH- Candace GLP # page. 70

72 11/05/ :35 PM NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. Quoting: God Loves ALL Yes. This is a very solitary journey. It is a time to be brave and stand alone, following your own truth. "Follow your own truth." The lost and misguided frequently contradict themselves in a single sentence. Nobody has their "own truth", there is only ONE ABSOLUTE TRUTH irrespective of others opinions. You are not brave for embracing lies. God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :40 PM NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. Quoting: God Loves ALL Yes. This is a very solitary journey. It is a time to be brave and stand alone, following your own truth. "Follow your own truth." The lost and misguided frequently contradict themselves in a single sentence. Nobody has their "own truth", there is only ONE ABSOLUTE TRUTH irrespective of others opinions. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 71

73 You are not brave for embracing lies. Quoting: I haven't seen OP make one lie here yet or conflict of posting. Those that have their own truth KNOW IT deep within. It is a solitary journey into truth, its the responsibility of each soul and it requires experience and thinking about that experience. It cannot be found in religions. One cannot follow to find it. One has to do individual work in each and every life. User ID: /05/ :41 PM... Logic and reason are enemies of truth Quoting: REALLY? NOW where did you get that DUMB idea? Logic and reason will produce the truth. Because so many of this world prefer fairy tales, they "believe" the bs of religion. Jesus taught that man who will not learn the nature of God by studying Nature, will remain FOOLS. Quoting: God Loves ALL You are born with "Truth", then the ememy starts to infest our fractured minds and convince us through our "Wonderful" gift of thought of what's true and what's not. Logic begins to reason, then the reason becomes nothing more than a rational excuse to back up the minds illusion of materialism. The end is where you begin, the end is "Truth" In the end we are all living in our own delusion, when you destroy your own delusion you may know "Truth" Quoting: NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. Quoting: God Loves ALL You wouldn't be here if you wern't in a delusion.you don't need logic and reason to just "Be" and live. You need logic and reason to inflate your false self(body) delusions that it is real. Do you really think this is real life? This is the world of delusioned minds. Ifr all that was know was "Truth", then there would be no reason for "reason" and "logic", those are concepts of false mind. (OP) -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 72

74 11/05/ :41 PM NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. Quoting: God Loves ALL Yes. This is a very solitary journey. It is a time to be brave and stand alone, following your own truth. "Follow your own truth." The lost and misguided frequently contradict themselves in a single sentence. Nobody has their "own truth", there is only ONE ABSOLUTE TRUTH irrespective of others opinions. You are not brave for embracing lies. Quoting: *smile* Following your "own truth" means doing what YOU think is right. Not what I think. In other words, believe what you like. However, no matter what any of us believe, there is only one Truth. Some will find it and some won't. We'll see soon what that truth is... Peace Rick Nevsimal User ID: /05/ :44 PM I ama fraid of God because I'm not perfect. God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :44 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 73

75 ... REALLY? NOW where did you get that DUMB idea? Logic and reason will produce the truth. Because so many of this world prefer fairy tales, they "believe" the bs of religion. Jesus taught that man who will not learn the nature of God by studying Nature, will remain FOOLS. Quoting: God Loves ALL You are born with "Truth", then the ememy starts to infest our fractured minds and convince us through our "Wonderful" gift of thought of what's true and what's not. Logic begins to reason, then the reason becomes nothing more than a rational excuse to back up the minds illusion of materialism. The end is where you begin, the end is "Truth" In the end we are all living in our own delusion, when you destroy your own delusion you may know "Truth" Quoting: NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. Quoting: God Loves ALL You wouldn't be here if you wern't in a delusion.you don't need logic and reason to just "Be" and live. You need logic and reason to inflate your false self(body) delusions that it is real. Do you really think this is real life? This is the world of delusioned minds. Ifr all that was know was "Truth", then there would be no reason for "reason" and "logic", those are concepts of false mind. Quoting: I am quite secure in who I AM. And my role. I am in no delusion. I know exactly how I live. Ozicell User ID: Australia 11/05/ :45 PM There may be only one truth but no one has all the pieces of the puzzle. Until all the pieces are known, truth remains a subjective perspective! (OP) -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 74

76 11/05/ :48 PM I ama fraid of God because I'm not perfect. Quoting: Rick Nevsimal Don't be afraid. There is nothing to fear. We are not these frail, weak and finite physical bodies. We are SO much more than that. In truth, we are powerful, infinite spiritual beings. In other words, we were never born and will never die. So, don't be afraid. You are doing fine and you don't have to be perfect, you are perfect the way you are. Ozicell User ID: Australia 11/05/ :48 PM The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :48 PM There may be only one truth but no one has all the pieces of the puzzle. Until all the pieces are known, truth remains a subjective perspective! Quoting: Ozicell there are some truths that do change. And some hold things to be true that are not. most of the time they will couch this as "beliefs" whether its about religion, or politics, or all sorts of other stuff but beliefs are postulates, not truths. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 75

77 (OP) 11/05/ :49 PM I am quite secure in who I AM. And my role. I am in no delusion. I know exactly how I live. Quoting: God Loves ALL Well said. Spoken as a true spiritual warrior. *smile* As am I... (OP) 11/05/ :51 PM The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". Quoting: Ozicell I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... Ozicell User ID: Australia 11/05/ :53 PM There may be only one truth but no one has all the pieces of the puzzle. Until all the pieces are known, truth remains a subjective perspective! Quoting: Ozicell there are some truths that do change. And some hold things to be true that are not. most of the time they will couch this as "beliefs" whether its about religion, or politics, or all sorts of other stuff but beliefs are postulates, not truths. Quoting: God Loves ALL Read again what I said and you'll see that while the truth remains, it is subjective perspective that -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 76

78 changes. Example, you and I are sitting on opposite side of the table, in the middle is a mug. I see and describe the mug as having its handle to the left while see and describe it as being to the right! The mug is a mug - that doesn't change but our perspective can. Ozicell User ID: Australia 11/05/ :55 PM The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". Quoting: Ozicell I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... A child is bold and loving in their approach to a parent and should not be full of fear in their presence! This is the Christ's teaching - approach the Father as an offspring not a fearful subject! (OP) 11/05/ :57 PM The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". Quoting: Ozicell I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... A child is bold and loving in their approach to a parent and should not be full of fear in their presence! This is the Christ's teaching - approach the Father as an offspring not a fearful subject! -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 77

79 Quoting: Ozicell As the other Christians on this thread tried to do, you are trying to twist your view of Christianity around to fit your needs. That's cool, but I don't need it. Thanks though. Ozicell User ID: Australia 11/05/ :00 PM The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". Quoting: Ozicell I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... A child is bold and loving in their approach to a parent and should not be full of fear in their presence! This is the Christ's teaching - approach the Father as an offspring not a fearful subject! Quoting: Ozicell As the other Christians on this thread tried to do, you are trying to twist your view of Christianity around to fit your needs. That's cool, but I don't need it. Thanks though. No probs! We are all entitled to our beliefs. (OP) 11/05/ :03 PM... I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 78

80 light. As are you... A child is bold and loving in their approach to a parent and should not be full of fear in their presence! This is the Christ's teaching - approach the Father as an offspring not a fearful subject! Quoting: Ozicell As the other Christians on this thread tried to do, you are trying to twist your view of Christianity around to fit your needs. That's cool, but I don't need it. Thanks though. No probs! We are all entitled to our beliefs. Quoting: Ozicell Thank you my friend for your respectful reply. Maybe some day, when we have each found the truth we are searching for, we can meet again and laugh at our struggles getting there. Peace User ID: /05/ :04 PM The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". Quoting: Ozicell I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... Show your power, Jumble the words on my computer screen. If you cannot your claims are empty. (OP) 11/05/ :07 PM The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". Quoting: Ozicell -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 79

81 I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... Show your power, Jumble the words on my computer screen. If you cannot your claims are empty. Quoting: *grin* I am just a simple man. No powers, but my heart. I can't move objects, turn water into wine or walk on water. But, do I know who I really am? Yes. Am I this physical body? No. This body is my tool to experience this dense physical reality. I now have remembered who I am and that's all the power I need. I don't need to prove anything to you. User ID: /05/ :08 PM I ama fraid of God because I'm not perfect. Quoting: Rick Nevsimal Don't be afraid. There is nothing to fear. We are not these frail, weak and finite physical bodies. We are SO much more than that. In truth, we are powerful, infinite spiritual beings. In other words, we were never born and will never die. So, don't be afraid. You are doing fine and you don't have to be perfect, you are perfect the way you are. "Ye will not surely die, Ye will be as Gods" The same Lie over and over again. User ID: /05/ :13 PM The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". Quoting: Ozicell -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 80

82 I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... Show your power, Jumble the words on my computer screen. If you cannot your claims are empty. Quoting: *grin* I am just a simple man. No powers, but my heart. I can't move objects, turn water into wine or walk on water. But, do I know who I really am? Yes. Am I this physical body? No. This body is my tool to experience this dense physical reality. I now have remembered who I am and that's all the power I need. I don't need to prove anything to you. Then why did you choose to leave the Light to come here? Why leave the limtless to go into the limited? User ID: /05/ :15 PM I ama fraid of God because I'm not perfect. Quoting: Rick Nevsimal Don't be afraid. There is nothing to fear. We are not these frail, weak and finite physical bodies. We are SO much more than that. In truth, we are powerful, infinite spiritual beings. In other words, we were never born and will never die. So, don't be afraid. You are doing fine and you don't have to be perfect, you are perfect the way you are. "Ye will not surely die, Ye will be as Gods" The same Lie over and over again. Quoting: What's the truth then? -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 81

83 (OP) 11/05/ :16 PM... I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... Show your power, Jumble the words on my computer screen. If you cannot your claims are empty. Quoting: *grin* I am just a simple man. No powers, but my heart. I can't move objects, turn water into wine or walk on water. But, do I know who I really am? Yes. Am I this physical body? No. This body is my tool to experience this dense physical reality. I now have remembered who I am and that's all the power I need. I don't need to prove anything to you. Then why did you choose to leave the Light to come here? Why leave the limtless to go into the limited? Quoting: To learn. Why do we accept difficult challenges like climbing a mountain? To experience it first hand. And like a guide, to help others with their adventure and then return Home. Simple. (OP) 11/05/ :18 PM I ama fraid of God because I'm not perfect. Quoting: Rick Nevsimal Don't be afraid. There is nothing to fear. We are not these frail, weak and finite physical bodies. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 82

84 We are SO much more than that. In truth, we are powerful, infinite spiritual beings. In other words, we were never born and will never die. So, don't be afraid. You are doing fine and you don't have to be perfect, you are perfect the way you are. "Ye will not surely die, Ye will be as Gods" The same Lie over and over again. Quoting: What's the truth then? Quoting: The truth is that we are really powerful, infinite spiritual beings experiencing this dense physical reality using a meat suit... You and I are SO much more than most people realize. (OP) 11/05/ :22 PM Maybe this parable I wrote will help explain who we really are. REMEMBER, this is a parable... ============================== A bright little star within the millions of stars in our galaxy was watching and learning, because that is the purpose of all life. The little star had been watching a strange small planet, in a far away solar system with very unusual forms of life known as humans, living on a planet they called earth. The humans experienced such a wild, vivid and unusual reality! Their reality manifested itself as very dense forms of light matter. In this very dense reality they seemed to play out very vivid and trying experiences for the only purpose of learning from them. The experiences were beautiful and loving at times, but also evil, ugly and hateful also. All types of experiences were played out, because they learned from both good and evil experiences equally well. This strange reality intrigued the little star greatly and he wished that he could experience life this way. It seemed very exciting. The moon orbiting this planet called earth heard the little stars thoughts and said to him, "I can help you learn what it is like to be a human. As it turns out, I have the ability to insert star beings into a human body so you can feel what it is like. You can then return as your star self with much greater wisdom having learned from being a physical human being in this dense light reality." "How can I do that?", the little star asked. "It's easy!", said the moon being, "I will create a human child body for you to enter. You can then live as a human for one human cycle of life. After one lifetime, you can then return to being a star as before." This idea intrigued the little star greatly. Watching was useful, but to be able to experience life in a -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 83

85 physical light body seemed like a great way to experience new things. "But, I would know that I was really a star being.", the little star said, "I would know that I wasn't really a human." "No problem!", said the moon, "I'll make you forget who you really are during your time on earth. That way you will think that this life was all you really are." "That sounds like fun. So, you will insert me into a human body and at the end of one lifetime, I will return to being a star?", said the little star. "Yes, unless you wish to play the game again." "Yes, I agree. I'm ready!" So, as agreed, the moon inserted the spiritual essence of the little star into a child about to be born. As agreed, the star human slowly forgot who he really was and experienced all aspects of human existence. The star human became a human husband, a father, fought in war, experienced love, hate, pain, jealousy, anger, all of the experiences that humans face during their lives. As with all human life, it was soon time for the game to end. The little star human found himself on his death bed and waited with some fear of what was to come, since he no longer remembered his true star self. At the time of death, the star human left the human physical form and rose in spiritual human form to meet his fate. The star human was met by what he believed to be God, since he still had no memory of his true self. The little star human said to the being, "Are you God?", and the evil moon being lied and said, "Yes, I am your God!". The confused and afraid little star then asked, "What happens to me now, Lord?" "Well, let us review your life on earth to see how you have lived your life. Are you ready?, said the crafty moon. And the star human nodded that he was. They saw in front of them all of the life experiences that the star human had lived. Some experiences were loving, kind and good, while other experiences were filled with death, hate, anger and greed. These negative experiences made the little star human sad and regretful, because he incorrectly thought this human existence was all he was and he felt sorry that he had wasted his life on earth with such ugly experiences. The scheming moon said to the the helplessly lost star human, "I will give you another chance. Would you like to go back and to live another life on earth to make up for the many mistakes you made? You need to atone for your sins in this lifetime." "Oh yes please!", said the lost and confused little star, "I need to learn to be a more loving human being." "Ok.", said the evil moon, I will erase your memory of this lifetime and reinsert you back into a new life form on earth. Try and do a better job of this life this time." "I will! Thank you Lord for this chance.", said the confused little star human. And it was done. This way the evil moon being kept the little star trapped in this endless loop of reincarnation for many, many lifetimes on earth, never to know his true heritage. Finally, one day the little star's family began to wonder what had become of their brother. Because we are all part of the One, he wasn't too hard to find. What they found troubled them greatly and -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 84

86 they said to the moon, "Why have you trapped our brother in this terrible place for so long?" The crafty moon replied, "I have not trapped him, he volunteered for this experience. The choice to enter this reality was his and the choice of continuing these cycles of life were also his." "Yes, but he no longer remembers his true family or what a truly powerful spiritual star being he really is." "Again", said the evil moon slyly, "That was his decision when the game began." So, the call went out for volunteers to incarnate on earth and awaken the little star to his true heritage and to break the cycle of incarnations that he had become trapped in for so long. Only the strongest of star beings volunteered for this difficult mission, because it was possible for them to become trapped in this dense reality also. The evil moon being used every trick possible to keep the star humans confused and in fear, so as to keep them from the truth of their real heritage. But, slowly and with great difficulty the volunteers began to awaken the many little stars that had become trapped in the earth reality game. As the little stars slowly began to remember their true families, they were anxious to return home and to become the powerful spiritual beings that they had always been and to be welcomed with open arms by all of their loved ones. And so the little stars left earth thankful for the wisdom they had gained during their time on earth as humans and also sad for those that remained. However, many vowed to return as volunteers and to never leave any trapped star humans behind. User ID: /05/ :22 PM... Show your power, Jumble the words on my computer screen. If you cannot your claims are empty. Quoting: *grin* I am just a simple man. No powers, but my heart. I can't move objects, turn water into wine or walk on water. But, do I know who I really am? Yes. Am I this physical body? No. This body is my tool to experience this dense physical reality. I now have remembered who I am and that's all the power I need. I don't need to prove anything to you. Then why did you choose to leave the Light to come here? Why leave the limtless to go into the limited? Quoting: AH- Candace GLP # page. 85

87 To learn. Why do we accept difficult challenges like climbing a mountain? To experience it first hand. And like a guide, to help others with their adventure and then return Home. Simple. Sounds to me like you got sold a bunk vacation and now you are trying to rationalize getting ripped off. Why else would you be trying to lead people home the vacation sucks and everyone is lost. We all are trying to get home from this vacation. If anything we are ment to fix this place instead of leave it. If you leave it broken it will always be broken. Prostetnik User ID: Canada 11/05/ :23 PM I am terrified of the Christian god and the Muslim Allah. (OP) 11/05/ :24 PM... *grin* I am just a simple man. No powers, but my heart. I can't move objects, turn water into wine or walk on water. But, do I know who I really am? Yes. Am I this physical body? No. This body is my tool to experience this dense physical reality. I now have remembered who I am and that's all the power I need. I don't need to prove anything to you. Then why did you choose to leave the Light to come here? Why leave the limtless to go into the limited? Quoting: AH- Candace GLP # page. 86

88 To learn. Why do we accept difficult challenges like climbing a mountain? To experience it first hand. And like a guide, to help others with their adventure and then return Home. Simple. Sounds to me like you got sold a bunk vacation and now you are trying to rationalize getting ripped off. Why else would you be trying to lead people home the vacation sucks and everyone is lost. We all are trying to get home from this vacation. If anything we are ment to fix this place instead of leave it. If you leave it broken it will always be broken. Quoting: Did you read the parable? I volunteered to come here. I knew what I was getting in to. (OP) 11/05/ :26 PM I am terrified of the Christian god and the Muslim Allah. Quoting: Prostetnik Just trust in yourself and be strong. But most important, don't be afraid of anything. User ID: /05/ :29 PM For the same reason I LOVED my earthly father and FEARED my earthly father. He was the boss of me when I was a child; an excellent parent who knew what was best for me. Make no mistake, his yoke was easy and the burden light. He never had to spank me because I respected his leadership. Unfortunately, my Heavenly Father has had to spank me more than once. I had to learn the hard way to respect Him and not just enjoy being blessed by Him. :-( (OP) 11/05/ :30 PM For the same reason I LOVED my earthly father and FEARED my earthly father. He was the boss of me when I was a child; an excellent parent who knew what was best for me. Make no mistake, his yoke was easy and the burden light. He never had to spank me because I respected his leadership. Unfortunately, my Heavenly Father has had to spank me more than once. I had to learn the hard way to respect Him and not just enjoy being blessed by Him. :-( Quoting: AH- Candace GLP # page. 87

89 I feel sorry for you. *sigh* Dr.DoomLittle User ID: /05/ :33 PM A true all knowing and all wise supreme being should not be something to fear. In truth, this reality is SO much more than most people's silly childish understandings. God is within you. Not something above you or in control of you... Fear is mans wonderfully destructive contribution Lada D Woman From Mars User ID: /05/ :34 PM "God-Fearing Christian" is an expression that was brought into English from the Old World, and while it was being adapted for English, lost it's way. The word/phrase translated as "Fear" was originally a word meant to convey reverence...reverence is close to fear but without a negative connotation. Like respect mixed with Love. God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :40 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 88

90 For the same reason I LOVED my earthly father and FEARED my earthly father. He was the boss of me when I was a child; an excellent parent who knew what was best for me. Make no mistake, his yoke was easy and the burden light. He never had to spank me because I respected his leadership. Unfortunately, my Heavenly Father has had to spank me more than once. I had to learn the hard way to respect Him and not just enjoy being blessed by Him. :-( Quoting: the heavenly father does NOT spank. Maybe your guides did, but not the Father. read my signature file below. Karma will bite you on the but and faster than usual in these ending days. Your Thought Adjuster, which is the heavenly father within you, only guides. When this stage in human unfolding (the stage of genius) has been reached by enough of the human race to dominate its transactions, one with another, wars will be impossible. Material values are the basis of all wars. The genius stage of unfolding places no value whatsoever upon material things. Greed and acquisitiveness is not in it. The sense of evil is not in it. It would be impossible and unthinkable for a Beethoven or Sibelius to even think the inharmonies which are necessary to wage war. The only way to hold a civilization together is to bring a cosmic harmony into it through transactions based upon love. It is impossible to hold it together as a workable organization in any other way. We have now reached the point in this man-made world where hate, suspicion and greed are sitting at conference tables to bargain with each other. The more they bargain the greater the necessity for increased armament. Lao Russell My Walter Russell thread. Thread: Walter Russell Quotes God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :43 PM "God-Fearing Christian" is an expression that was brought into English from the Old World, and while it was being adapted for English, lost it's way. The word/phrase translated as "Fear" was originally a word meant to convey -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 89

91 reverence...reverence is close to fear but without a negative connotation. Like respect mixed with Love. Quoting: Lada D reverence is not even close to fear. to not have a negative connotation would have to mean the opposite, so you can't use the english as you just did. User ID: /05/ :44 PM For the same reason I LOVED my earthly father and FEARED my earthly father. He was the boss of me when I was a child; an excellent parent who knew what was best for me. Make no mistake, his yoke was easy and the burden light. He never had to spank me because I respected his leadership. Unfortunately, my Heavenly Father has had to spank me more than once. I had to learn the hard way to respect Him and not just enjoy being blessed by Him. :-( Quoting: I feel sorry for you. *sigh* Why's that? Cuz I was stupid and did something that the Lord stated very clearly to me not to do, and then suffered for it? Save your empathy for victims of the earthly system of justice. It is perverted and evil. User ID: /05/ :45 PM... Then why did you choose to leave the Light to come here? Why leave the limtless to go into the limited? Quoting: To learn. Why do we accept difficult challenges like climbing a mountain? To experience it first hand. And like a guide, to help others with their adventure and then return Home. Simple. Sounds to me like you got sold a bunk vacation and now you are trying to rationalize getting ripped off. Why else would you be trying to lead people home the vacation sucks and everyone is -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 90

92 lost. We all are trying to get home from this vacation. If anything we are ment to fix this place instead of leave it. If you leave it broken it will always be broken. Quoting: Did you read the parable? I volunteered to come here. I knew what I was getting in to. I understand, the part I don't get is why you have to come here to learn? If you are already in the limitless what's there to learn or experience? The limetless is all, having learned all and experience all before. So if you are part of the all, you should have already known, learned and experienced. There is nothing new. God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :45 PM I am terrified of the Christian god and the Muslim Allah. Quoting: Prostetnik Just trust in yourself and be strong. But most important, don't be afraid of anything. man must in fact over come his fear, and the purpose of the Heavenly father within is to assist with that. The overcoming fear must include being afraid of all the demon shit out there. You have inside of your mind/soul a fragment of God and no "demon" can touch it. Because of that, no demon can possess one who has a Father Fragment. That is one reason that MIchael of Nebadon (Jesus) bestowed Father Fragment prematurely on this planet, because of the amount of evil on it. Evil cannot touch the Father Indwelt MIND. YOu can still make stupid decisions, but you cannot be possessed. Lada D Woman From Mars User ID: /05/ :47 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 91

93 "God-Fearing Christian" is an expression that was brought into English from the Old World, and while it was being adapted for English, lost it's way. The word/phrase translated as "Fear" was originally a word meant to convey reverence...reverence is close to fear but without a negative connotation. Like respect mixed with Love. Quoting: Lada D reverence is not even close to fear. to not have a negative connotation would have to mean the opposite, so you can't use the english as you just did. Quoting: God Loves ALL Thank you, Threepio. (OP) 11/05/ :49 PM... To learn. Why do we accept difficult challenges like climbing a mountain? To experience it first hand. And like a guide, to help others with their adventure and then return Home. Simple. Sounds to me like you got sold a bunk vacation and now you are trying to rationalize getting ripped off. Why else would you be trying to lead people home the vacation sucks and everyone is lost. We all are trying to get home from this vacation. If anything we are ment to fix this place instead of leave it. If you leave it broken it will always be broken. Quoting: Did you read the parable? I volunteered to come here. I knew what I was getting in to. I understand, the part I don't get is why you have to come here to learn? If you are already in the -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 92

94 limitless what's there to learn or experience? The limetless is all, having learned all and experience all before. So if you are part of the all, you should have already known, learned and experienced. There is nothing new. Quoting: You misunderstand. We are not all knowing and limitless as spiritual beings. We have much to learn from many types of realities. We are curious and fun loving spiritual beings. We are not Gods! At least not yet... *smile* User ID: /05/ :56 PM... Sounds to me like you got sold a bunk vacation and now you are trying to rationalize getting ripped off. Why else would you be trying to lead people home the vacation sucks and everyone is lost. We all are trying to get home from this vacation. If anything we are ment to fix this place instead of leave it. If you leave it broken it will always be broken. Quoting: Did you read the parable? I volunteered to come here. I knew what I was getting in to. I understand, the part I don't get is why you have to come here to learn? If you are already in the limitless what's there to learn or experience? The limetless is all, having learned all and experience all before. So if you are part of the all, you should have already known, learned and experienced. There is nothing new. Quoting: You misunderstand. We are not all knowing and limitless as spiritual beings. We have much to learn from many types of realities. We are curious and fun loving spiritual beings. We are not Gods! At least not yet... *smile* Yes, but once you find your way home you cease. In the end we are the limetless, we just havent played it out, yet we still have plaed it out. God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: AH- Candace GLP # page. 93

95 11/05/ :57 PM... Sounds to me like you got sold a bunk vacation and now you are trying to rationalize getting ripped off. Why else would you be trying to lead people home the vacation sucks and everyone is lost. We all are trying to get home from this vacation. If anything we are ment to fix this place instead of leave it. If you leave it broken it will always be broken. Quoting: Did you read the parable? I volunteered to come here. I knew what I was getting in to. I understand, the part I don't get is why you have to come here to learn? If you are already in the limitless what's there to learn or experience? The limetless is all, having learned all and experience all before. So if you are part of the all, you should have already known, learned and experienced. There is nothing new. Quoting: You misunderstand. We are not all knowing and limitless as spiritual beings. We have much to learn from many types of realities. We are curious and fun loving spiritual beings. We are not Gods! At least not yet... *smile* Man begins to become limitless, each man, when he becomes a cosmic being. All is known and your soul during meditation can access that ALL. You can find anything you NEED and as you come to LEARN HOW TO WORK WITH GOD, YOUR POWER INCREASES. Everytime you are in alignment with the Father, so goes how you do! Things and projects NOT in alignment do not flow. Please look into reading Walter Russell who just does a bang up job of explaining the Father and the power within. Man limits only himself, the Father does not. (OP) 11/05/ :58 PM Yes, but once you find your way home you cease. In the end we are the limetless, we just havent played it out, yet we still have plaed it out. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 94

96 Quoting: Of course not. The learning is infinite... User ID: /05/ :02 PM A true all knowing and all wise supreme being should not be something to fear. In truth, this reality is SO much more than most people's silly childish understandings. God is within you. Not something above you or in control of you... wow. I'm continually amazed people are this stupid. My girlfriend was in her early 40's when she said this to me. She thought she was so smart and spiritual, just like you do. She hadn't read a lick of the Bible. You can't get thru to these kind of people. They are always in a constant state of rebellion, have strong opinions, surround themselves with other stupid people, and never bother to learn anything for themselves. (OP) 11/05/ :05 PM A true all knowing and all wise supreme being should not be something to fear. In truth, this reality is SO much more than most people's silly childish understandings. God is within you. Not something above you or in control of you... wow. I'm continually amazed people are this stupid. My girlfriend was in her early 40's when she said this to me. She thought she was so smart and spiritual, just like you do. She hadn't read a lick of the Bible. You can't get thru to these kind of people. They are always in a constant state of rebellion, have strong opinions, surround themselves with other stupid people, and never bother to learn anything for themselves. Quoting: Well, I'm glad you have it all figured out there Ace... Good for you! -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 95

97 User ID: /05/ :07 PM Yes, but once you find your way home you cease. In the end we are the limetless, we just havent played it out, yet we still have plaed it out. Quoting: Of course not. The learning is infinite... YOU TELL US. YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF GOD. Are you very important teaching others on here. What are your credentials? Crystals, tarot cards, yoga and meditating, sun worship, Buddhism, Edgar Cayce, phsychics, mediums, or do you worship the earth above human life? Tell us you whipped out hippie nutjob. Are we in the age of Aquarius and do should we smoke pot (oh, I'm sorry "weed" again) to get in touch wiht our inner consciousness? If we are all gods then are you a Communist? Can you save yourself? Let's see you try it. Shut the hell up and leave people alone airhead. God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :08 PM Yes, but once you find your way home you cease. In the end we are the limetless, we just havent played it out, yet we still have plaed it out. Quoting: Of course not. The learning is infinite... Oh dear AC 3566, where in new age did you read that bullshit? You never cease unless you choose to cease your eternal life. I am from the Highest Heaven, Paradise, the center of the Creation where the Trinity lives. And a lot of other high beings. Many of us have come to put to rest these untruths. When you find you way 'Home' you have arrive on Paradise, you do not cease nor do you ever give up your individuality. Over your long journey upward, you just align yourself -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 96

98 more and more with the Father, meaning you gain wisdom. Even the oldest of the Fathers Sons do not ever know it all, there are surprises along the way. I am an ascending Son out of the animal evolution. I made it to Paradise and I know of what I speak. I surrendered nothing of myself and gained everything. I am here now in service to the one labeled Jesus. I run the ground crew of the 2nd Coming Organization in fact. the Ones labeled Jesus and I are in partnership to lift up this confused world. Eternity is forever, but if you want some "times" try trillions of years to digest the idea. I am what is called a Mighty Messenger. I am beyond the finaliters of Paradise and will one day become the creator in partnership with my partner who didn't incarnate with me this time, of one of those universes happening in the outer space rings. There are NO LIMITS and I KNOW THAT very personally. That is why I came to this planet, to serve it. I have taken the journey of ascension and I know it is real. (OP) 11/05/ :08 PM Yes, but once you find your way home you cease. In the end we are the limetless, we just havent played it out, yet we still have plaed it out. Quoting: Of course not. The learning is infinite... YOU TELL US. YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF GOD. Are you very important teaching others on here. What are your credentials? Crystals, tarot cards, yoga and meditating, sun worship, Buddhism, Edgar Cayce, phsychics, mediums, or do you worship the earth above human life? Tell us you whipped out hippie nutjob. Are we in the age of Aquarius and do should we smoke pot (oh, I'm sorry "weed" again) to get in touch wiht our inner consciousness? If we are all gods then are you a Communist? Can you save yourself? Let's see you try it. Shut the hell up and leave people alone airhead. Quoting: Where did I say this? User ID: /05/ :10 PM Yes, but once you find your way home you cease. In the end we are the limetless, we just havent played it out, yet we still have plaed it out. Quoting: AH- Candace GLP # page. 97

99 Of course not. The learning is infinite... YOU TELL US. YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF GOD. Are you very important teaching others on here. What are your credentials? Crystals, tarot cards, yoga and meditating, sun worship, Buddhism, Edgar Cayce, phsychics, mediums, or do you worship the earth above human life? Tell us you whipped out hippie nutjob. Are we in the age of Aquarius and do should we smoke pot (oh, I'm sorry "weed" again) to get in touch wiht our inner consciousness? If we are all gods then are you a Communist? Can you save yourself? Let's see you try it. Shut the hell up and leave people alone airhead. Quoting: best of all, write us a poem and do an interpretive dance. You have the power to create life and take life right? You can create the heavens and earth and mitochondrial DNA. Yes, you are a god OP, keep talking and sounding important - TO YOURSELF. (OP) 11/05/ :12 PM Yes, but once you find your way home you cease. In the end we are the limetless, we just havent played it out, yet we still have plaed it out. Quoting: Of course not. The learning is infinite... YOU TELL US. YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF GOD. Are you very important teaching others on here. What are your credentials? Crystals, tarot cards, yoga and meditating, sun worship, Buddhism, Edgar Cayce, phsychics, mediums, or do you worship the earth above human life? Tell us you whipped out hippie nutjob. Are we in the age of Aquarius and do should we smoke pot (oh, I'm sorry "weed" again) to get in touch wiht our inner consciousness? If we are all gods then are you a Communist? Can you save yourself? Let's see you try it. Shut the hell up and leave people alone airhead. Quoting: best of all, write us a poem and do an interpretive dance. You have the power to create life and take life right? You can create the heavens and earth and mitochondrial DNA. Yes, you are a god OP, keep talking and sounding important - TO YOURSELF. -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 98

100 Quoting: So angry. Don't worry about what I believe. Find your own way. God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :15 PM A true all knowing and all wise supreme being should not be something to fear. In truth, this reality is SO much more than most people's silly childish understandings. God is within you. Not something above you or in control of you... wow. I'm continually amazed people are this stupid. My girlfriend was in her early 40's when she said this to me. She thought she was so smart and spiritual, just like you do. She hadn't read a lick of the Bible. You can't get thru to these kind of people. They are always in a constant state of rebellion, have strong opinions, surround themselves with other stupid people, and never bother to learn anything for themselves. Quoting: WOW, I am amazed at your own ignorance. She didn't need to read the bible, which has been corrupted and is maybe 1% true. now you get yourself Walter Russell and throw that bible in the trash, post haste. God Loves ALL I AM That I AM, who are you? User ID: /05/ :20 PM -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 99

101 Yes, but once you find your way home you cease. In the end we are the limetless, we just havent played it out, yet we still have plaed it out. Quoting: Of course not. The learning is infinite... YOU TELL US. YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF GOD. Are you very important teaching others on here. What are your credentials? Crystals, tarot cards, yoga and meditating, sun worship, Buddhism, Edgar Cayce, phsychics, mediums, or do you worship the earth above human life? Tell us you whipped out hippie nutjob. Are we in the age of Aquarius and do should we smoke pot (oh, I'm sorry "weed" again) to get in touch wiht our inner consciousness? If we are all gods then are you a Communist? Can you save yourself? Let's see you try it. Shut the hell up and leave people alone airhead. Quoting: well well well, I see the antichrists have hit this thread in abundance. Whats the matter, too much truth in it? -- AH- Candace GLP # page. 100