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1 Living A Course in Miracles Week 4 Class Walking the Talk In Your Family Mundy With Hadley

2 Walking The Talk In Your Family... 3 Opening Blessing...3 Walking The Talk In Your Family...4 You re Already Perfect...5 Primary Way To Provide Guidance is Living It...7 Let them Be...10 Giving Up The Projective Mind...12 Don t Let it Upset You...13 Decide to Be Peaceful and Loving...16 Fix Yourself, Not the World...18 Life is Designed For Our Healing...20 When Your Mind is Clear It s Easy to Share...22 Expectations Are Attachments...24 s Offerings...26 Closing Blessing...27

3 Week 4 Wal king The Talk In Your Family Mundy With Hadley Thursday, June 7, 2012 Opening Blessing We begin each of our classes with a blessing and I invite everyone to place your hand on your heart as I am doing, and take a breath of love and gratitude with me, please, as we remember that the kingdom is within. That it s in our heart where the treasure lies. For all of us who ve been seeking outside of ourselves and now we re turning within and remembering that all that is holy, all that is beautiful and pure is our true nature, that we are truly unlimited, unprecedented spirit. And we are grateful to remember this together right now, that this truly is a sacred circle of love and light and we re transcending time and space using technology to come together in this way, and to dedicate ourselves to remembering the truth about ourselves, about life, about our families, about loved one. We re so grateful and so thankful right now to dedicate ourselves to this practice of love, walking the talk and living the love. We re remembering our true identity as the perfect givers and receivers of love, extending love to everyone remembering that we are one with them. In grace and gratitude we rejoice to live the love right now and so it is. Amen. Amen, Amen. Mundy With Hadley 3

4 Living A Course in Miracles Walking The Talk In Your Family This week it s Week 4 in Living A Course In Miracles and we have Mundy, author of Living A Course In Miracles. I love that your book and this series have the same name and it s just, I think, a clear remembrance that it s really about living these teachings not studying them and becoming an intellectual expert on the words or the ideas, but embodying it so fully, taking it into our heart so fully that we are the living representation of this love that A Course In Miracles is reminding us we are. And you book,, Living A Course In Miracles is such a practical, helpful guide for us. I know this week our class in Walking The Talk In Your Family is going to be very helpful for people because, as I ve said to you before, I believe at least for me personally, walking the talk in my family has been the most challenging and the most rewarding thing for me. Sure. Have you found that to be true for yourself too? Yeah, I suppose it has. It s also true in other ways professionally, and at work and things like that. Because any place that you have a special relationship, which means a relationship in which you get expectations and anticipations about the way the other person is supposed to behave in relation to you. And then if they don t behave that way, you get to get upset about it or make some adjustments. That s the real learning. It s really learning the course. And we have to. We don t have a choice; especially we don t always have a choice with our families. Our parents are out parents. Our brothers are our brothers and sisters. Our children are our children et cetera, so we have to learn how to live with these. 4 Living A Course in Miracles

5 These are our teachers and we ask for these teachers. We should really learn the lesson that they re here to teach us. Whether we like it or not. Actually, you ll really like it if you learn the lesson. Then you re going to like it. That s it. That s it right there. That s it. We don t have to say it so we can shut down now. [laughter]. And I like what you were saying before in the pre-class chat about aha, aha ha, having an aha ha. You re Already Perfect Right. The course is about Look at Chapter 1, Section 2. It s called Time, Revelation and Miracles. And really what we re searching for is freedom from a tyrant that we call an ego, which is a very strange thing because it doesn t even exist. And yet it looks like it does. It looks like it does so much that it s the revelation of the fact that the thing doesn't exist once you get that, once you see that, once you begin to experience some freedom because you don t have a need to play the silly game anymore. It does come as a revelation, or recognition, or I like to use the word re-cognize. You recognize. You see it again. It comes back into the When you discover the truth, you re not really discovering anything that hasn t been there all along. It s as though you re seeing it for the first time. But it s not really the first time because it s always been a part of your mind. That s why the course places emphasis on you re already perfect. You re already perfect. You re already there. This whole process has been completed, but that s why this whole is then as a dream and why the whole process of the course is really an awakening from the dream. And when you awaken from the dream, and sometimes it s really kind of a nightmare. It may seem like a nightmare we re in in terms of the Mundy With Hadley 5

6 Living A Course in Miracles family relationships that we re in because we don t seem to have a choice. One of the things that often happens in dreams is that it doesn't seem like there s any way out. You can t find the exit. There s no door. You re stuck here in the situation. But there is a freedom which can be found in the mind essentially by probably It has been at least in the past. I don't if it is now, but in the past one of the lines I quoted the most often from course was, Let him be what he is. Seek not to make a love an enemy, which could be let her be who she is. Let the situation be what it is. And doing that is just marvelous because we just get to let people be. That s what people really want from us more than anything else. It s just to let them be even when they re making mistakes. Nobody likes to be corrected. We don't enjoy watching our children, or our mates, make wrong decisions, but it s not our job to go beating them up about it either. If we try to do that, that's just going to make the situation worse. You never get what you want by doing that., in your book Living A Course In Miracles, you have a chapter called Healing The Terrorist Within. And it s a focus on anger and responsibility. In my life experience a lot of my challenges regarding anger and responsibility have been in my family. I know for me, for many, many years my mind was not a safe place for my family members, that I was continuously said I love them, I had a lot of resentments. And I was constantly sending attack thoughts with my mind. It s been an extraordinary journey of healing for me because I made a commitment to transform that and to change my mind. But for spiritual seekers, particularly, this is a great cause of tremendous despair, that they say they love people. They say the love is 6 Living A Course in Miracles

7 unconditional, but they harbor attack thoughts and anger and resentment. For people who are really challenged to walk the talk in their family and just hold that loving space, let s see if we can focus and give them some help. Do you have a number one thing? Now you said, Let him be who he is. Let her be who she is, not correcting your family members. That for many people Don t try to fix them. For many people, they have this attachment to trying to fix them. But you can t fix them. It s not your job to fix them. And it s not about fixing our mates or our kids. It s about loving them. The only thing that your child, if you have a child, if anyone does, the thing that they re going to remember about you the most after you re gone from their lives on this planet, the thing they re going to remember the most is whether or not you loved them. And if they feel as though you loved them, that was the main thing. And we love them actually by letting them be. And that don't mean that we let them do things that are hurtful, or illegal, or damaging. It s a really difficult task walking this path in which we have to let people be who they are at the same time we provide guidance and we provide a sense of direction. Primary Way To Provide Guidance is Living It But really the primary way that we provide guidance and direction is by living this course in front of them, by doing the course in front of them, which means that we take this seriously, which means for example, we do not attack. I mean you just do not attack. It s just so incredibly simple. That s why the course says anger is never justified. It don't mean you should never get angry. It just means that if you do get angry you ve really got to Mundy With Hadley 7

8 Living A Course in Miracles kind of stop and look and recognize that there s something that s really gone wrong with my thinking processes someplace. Otherwise I wouldn t be angry right now. That s why the line from the course, as you know is, Anger is never justified. Again, it don't never get angry. It just says it s never, it s not justified. We have to learn how to let these folks be who they are. Nobody likes to be corrected. The thing about the ego, the way the ego works is if you confront somebody s ego, what they do instantaneously inside their own mind, even if they don't say anything which is what you told me that you were doing, is that you start attacking the person back. Even if you don't do it physically or verbally, you re still doing it in your mind. You thought, You S.O.B. You re thinking back because that s just where the ego lives. That s why this incredible emphasis on the course on defenselessness, And in defenselessness my safety lies. That may be a difficult to understand but, boy oh boy, is that true. There s nothing to defend. What are you defending, some kind of silly ego that don't need a defense? Leave it alone. Let it be what it is. And on the other hand, the other side of it is that when you are experiencing attack coming your way, then what you really need to do is to listen, to really really listen to what that person is saying and to ask yourself a really important question, which is namely why are they saying this? Are they completely out of their gourds? Are they absolutely idiots? Or, is there maybe a little bit of truth in there? Maybe they re saying something that I need to hear. Maybe there s something that I can do. Maybe there s something I can say. Maybe there s some change that I can make in myself. That s where the course is about responsibility, that wonderful section from Chapter 21, Section 2 on responsibility. I m responsible for what I 8 Living A Course in Miracles

9 see. I choose the feelings I experience. I decide upon the goal I would achieve. And everything that happens to me I ask for. So, I m asking. This screaming kid is screaming at me and I ve actually asked for this. [laughter]. And I ask for it because this is my teaching. This is my lesson. My lesson is how do I love in this kind of a situation. Jesus is hanging on a cross. He s being crucified. People are jeering at him and he doesn't see it as an attack. And that s a really heavy duty lesson. And he says, You don t have to do this. You don t have to go this far. You don't have to be crucified, but you don't want to see the attack because the attack Then you re seeing separation. And we don't want to be seeing separation. We want to be seeing union. We want to see coming together. We want to literally be loving. So there s no A Course In Miracles for children. The way you teach A Course In Miracles to children is that you just live it out loud in front of them and they see that this is the right way to live. They see the things like anger and attack don't work and there s no need to practice it, so don't even You don't even have to go there because it s not an example that you re being given as the way the world works. It s because first of all the world doesn't work that way. Heaven doesn't work that way. I love what you re saying. And when you were talking about anger is never justified, that teaching is so helpful to me. I was able to work that and it helped me to transform any self-righteousness that I had that I was justified in any way. And what it also reminded me of since we re talking about family is, when I was a kid and I would get upset, my dad would say to me, Now,, there s no reason for you to be upset. And when I was a little kid, I didn t know what to do with that because when you re 6 years old you kind of don't need a reason to be upset. It s Mundy With Hadley 9

10 Living A Course in Miracles Let them Be like, Dad, I m sorry. I can t write you a little essay on why I m upset. I just need your help. As adults, we can say our expressions of anger, are feelings of anger aren t justified, so the attack is never justified. But when little kids are upset and they re angry and they re having a meltdown, how can we walk the talk of A Course In Miracles and call upon the Holy Spirit? How can we deal with that kind of a specific challenge? Because all the parents listening are thinking, Yeah, I need that kind of help. Again, it s the same thing. You kind of let them be who they are. It doesn't mean you don t do any kind of discipline. It doesn't mean that you don't send them to the room. I doesn't mean And probably one of the things that you need to do is to get to a place of peace as quickly as you possibly can. When my daughter We are very fortunate. Our daughter still lives with us at the age of 25. What s fortunate about that is that it s just so nice having a relationship with an adult, an adult to an adult. But we went through a really difficult time during the teenage years and she taught me a lot. In fact I dedicated one of my earlier books to her as my teacher because I said she was teaching me all the things a teacher of God needs to learn. I actually listed all the things a teacher of God would learn. But when I notice, for example something would happen, it doesn't make a difference what it was, and I would begin to see something to come up inside me that wanted to attack her verbally, I knew what I had to do at that point was to turn around and walk away, I mean to literally go to my office to get out of the room and to let her do the same thing. And it s to calm down, to get to that quiet place again because as long as either one of us were crazy, there was not going to be any chance of 10 Living A Course in Miracles

11 being able to talk about this because then we just got into some sort of a shouting match and that would never work. I would step out of the room. And it really, really worked very well in that I found that later, when sanity had returned to both of our minds There was this one incidence several years ago. I don t remember what happened that particular evening, but the next day she and I were going somewhere alone together in the car. And it was a pretty nice, quiet time and I thought, This is really a good time to bring up that subject that we were dealing with and the anger the night before. And I was just about to say something, and just as I was about to say something, it was like intuitively she turned to me and she said, You know? I need a new boyfriend. It was just as calmly and peacefully as anything. And I said, Well, what are you going to do about it? I just put it right back on her. She just had said it. She said it. I didn t have to say it. She said it. And then putting it to her, What are you going to do about it? What do you want to do about it? Of course that all eventually got worked out. That was several years ago. How long have you been married? 15 years. My daughter was adopted and my wife had her before we met. So, Sarah was 7 years old when she came into my life. But we ve been together ever since then. And we were together seven years before we got married. So, we ve been married for 15 years but we ve been together for like 18 years I guess. I m sure that you probably have a unique experience in your relationship because you ve been together 18 years but you have been a student of the course for how many years now? 37 years, from the beginning since before it was published. We started with the manuscript. Mundy With Hadley 11

12 Living A Course in Miracles Right, so you entered into the relationship with your wife and with your daughter already so steeped in the course, but you ve got to tell us,, have you felt yourself really challenged to walk the talk in your relationships? Giving Up The Projective Mind Well, sure. What I find is that if you re an earnest student of the course, if you keep doing it, you kind of keep taking it to deeper and deeper and deeper levels because you have to because the course is asking you to. And you can t fool yourself into thinking that you ve got it as long as you see that there s any kind of anger or attack thoughts are coming up inside you at all, or projections. The main thing about the course, the main thing that I like to emphasize because I also taught courses on mysticism for many years at the state university here in New York, and I wrote a book called What Is Mysticism? The way you come to a mystical experience, the way anybody precourse in history, the way anybody has come to a mystical experience is by giving up the projective mind. That s why I think the first three words in Chapter 21 are so crucial in terms of understanding the whole course. And it s a sentence which appears twice. It s just three words but it s, Projection makes perception, so if you really understand that projection makes perception and the world you see is what you make it, nothing and you ve got to underline that word, nothing, it s nothing more than. So if it s nothing more than that, and I m making it up, I m actually asking for whatever these experiences are that I m experiencing, then I really have to see that and I have to stop the projection. You have to stop the projection in order to see. That s why let other people to be who they are. Once you stop the projection, once you let 12 Living A Course in Miracles

13 other people be who they are, then you get to see the things the way they really are. And the way they really are, they re fine. They re just fine. It s really quite lovely of just letting folks be what they are, even if they re being crazy, even if this kid is shouting and yelling, but you re not taking it seriously. You re not getting invested in it. You re literally kind of, as the course says, Above the battlefield, at that point. You re looking at this situation and you re seeing this situation but you re not making an investment in it. Don t Let it Upset You You re not making an emotional investment. You re not literally letting it get you upset. There s no reason why you would get upset. I like the work upset because in the word upset, the course says, You re never upset for the reason you think, if you re upset, the only way you can ever be upset is you ve got to have a setup. So, you ve set it up. You ve set it up just so you could get upset. I m studying Spanish and the word for upset in Spanish is trans tornado. And it s interesting because trans tornado You re supposed to roll that r better than I did. It has the word tornado in it. Isn t that interesting? So, I look up the root of the trans tornado and what it means is to have a thunderstorm. Literally the word upset in Spanish means thunderstorm or trans tornado means that thunderstorm is coming through, right? Well, do you want a thunderstorm coming through your mind? Nobody really wants that so what you have to do is to learn how to stop it as quickly as you possibly can. Whether you turn around and walk away or whether you just get quiet or whether you wait, sometimes it s just important to just wait. Mundy With Hadley 13

14 Living A Course in Miracles That s why there s that wonderful section on the course, I need do nothing, because very often really that s all that is needed is to do nothing. The whole thought that you have to do something, you have to fix something is a mistake in perception. Because if you re projecting, you are not seeing correctly. If you re angry, you are not seeing this situation correctly. You want to see it as Christ would see it, as the Holy Spirit sees it. The Christ isn t upset. The Holy Spirit isn t going to go crazy. Do you think Jesus got upset with the disciples because they weren t getting it? [laughter]. No, he loved them as who they were. One of the things that I learned to do when I was really challenged to walk the talk in my family relationships is to say, Holy Spirit, help me see this clearly. I think you re making such an important point,, about projection and perception because this is one of the most challenging things for many A Course In Miracles people. We have to remember too in this class that we have a lot of people who haven t even bought the book yet but they re getting there. They re curious and that's why they re participating in this class. And so what I have found is that many people come to understand that what they re experiencing. They come to understand it when they re willing to change their mind and then they are experiencing something different. So, when people are And this is certainly true of me. When I really held my feet to the fire and said, Girl, you are going to see your family differently and we re going to take no prisoners here. There s no give in this. You re going to walk the line here. You are really going to walk your talk. 14 Living A Course in Miracles

15 What I do,, is when I have crazy thoughts, judgments, attack thoughts, opinions and I recognize that I m starting to feel off balance because I m holding onto a thought that s not true and trying to convince myself of it, my technique is I mentally place it on my altar. And that s my way of giving it to God, giving it to the Holy Spirit, giving it to the higher self and saying, I m not interested in thinking this thought anymore so I m making an offering of it. And yeah, so I just would make an offering 1,500 times a day, especially if I was visiting my family. And it really worked for me. It really worked for me and that's how I got total clarity about what I think of as the law of projection and perception. It s because when I changed my mind, everything changed. All thought produces form at some level. That s right. You see it wholly differently and it s really quite wonderful. Here s a question for you because this is a question I get all the time. People want to know how do they handle when they have a family member or a loved one or a coworker who s a complainer? It s really the same thing. It s really the same thing. Spiritual seeker, positive thinker, you want to keep things positive and you have a close person in your life who appears to be dedicated to complaining. Many spiritual seekers want to teach them and want to change them. What do they do? You can t change them. It s not meant to try to change them or to teach them. Again, it really is a matter of letting them be who they are. Now that doesn't mean that there may not be times when you can try to talk to them about what s going on in a very sane and civil sort of way. But on a whole, again, you just let them be. You let them be. Okay, but what if the person doesn't like the way they be? Mundy With Hadley 15

16 Living A Course in Miracles Decide to Be Peaceful and Loving Well, they probably don't like the way that they otherwise they wouldn t be a complainer, right? What example are you going to give them about what is the correct way to be? You re going to still be peaceful and loving despite the situation that s going on. You re not going to be feeding the attack and getting defensive and angry yourself. That is definitely not going to help. That s going to create a really unstable family situation, much more unstable than before. I know it s really difficult. That's really difficult to hear this but there is no other way to heal it. You ve got to be loving. You ve got to be kind, even under those conditions. And you may wonder why you put yourself under those conditions, but still there it is. So you listen. You listen to them. You listen to whatever is going on. I know that answer may seem a little bit simple but it s really not a matter of I would say to you that many people are hearing that answer. They re thinking, I don't want to listen to them. I don't want to listen to them. I don't want to give them an opportunity to walk down the road of complaining for hours and hours because then we both feel sick and upset and disgusted. Another possibility is to say, I m leaving now. I m going to another room, or, I m going out for a walk, or, I m going to my office, or whatever it is, but do it in a non attacking kind of way. So it s without rolling your eyes and huffing. Yeah, it s without rolling your eyes, without huffing, without attacking in any way whatsoever. That never works. That's the whole point. That's why it s never justified. And you re just going to make the other 16 Living A Course in Miracles

17 person more and more angry and more and more defensive and more and more. Then the whole situation will just become increasingly disstabled. It s not a matter of reason. You can t reason with somebody when they re If somebody is angry, they are literally at that time temporarily insane. They re literally temporarily insane, not permanently insane. But temporarily it s insane. It s insane to be insane. It s crazy to be mad. Once many, many years ago I made mistake. My daughter was screaming and yelling about something. I forgot what it was. And I said, Right now you re temporarily insane. That was wrong. That was mean. That was wrong on my part. I shouldn t have said that. She just turned to me and screamed back, Temporarily insane am I? Oh, God. Well, I didn t make the right choice at that point. You know what comes into my mind now,, is to, in that moment if we re feeling, if we re in a challenge with someone, whether it s a family member or a coworker, we re in a challenge with someone meaning we don't feel we have the inner resources. We re starting to feel upset and insane ourselves, then perhaps one thing we could do is we could call upon the Holy Spirit and say, In this moment, I would like to be truly helpful to all of us. How do I do that? And not think we already know. You just got through saying it. You just do what you just said. You indicate, I need help right now. I need to see this differently. Help me to see this differently. Help me to let this person be who they are. And that s perfectly possible. You can do it and it does work. It does take practice but it works. And you can have serenity. Yes. Yeah, we ve proved it. I know I have. I know you have. I comes back to that willingness. Right, right. Mundy With Hadley 17

18 Living A Course in Miracles It s cultivating the little willingness to not think we already know how it should be, what should happen. Fix Yourself, Not the World Forget about that. There s this great line. It s Tolstoy. He says, Everybody wants to fix the world. Nobody wants to fix themselves. He said that 150 years ago, right? And it s true. It s not about fixing the world and the world being anybody or anything in the world. It s only about fixing myself. It s only about coming to clarity within one s own mind. And if my mind can be clear and loving and if I can be kind then I will know what the right response is regardless of the circumstances. One thing that comes into my mind that creates experiences that people have that are very challenging for them are when loved ones seem to be addicted to alcohol, sex, gambling, anything like the where the person feels helpless to help their addicted loved one. How do we work with our mind in that kind of a circumstance? That s really difficult. It s really difficult to watch that or to see that. Sometimes you ve got to let the person go through that. You ve got to be with them and let them know that you love them, but also it doesn t mean that, for example, if you re in an abusive relationship, an abusive partner for example, it certainly doesn't mean you can t leave. There s nothing that says you ve got to stay in that kind of a situation. That may very well be exactly the kind of thing that you need to do because there s no reason to be abusing yourself, to be putting up with it in that sense. If it s a consistent thing that doesn't change and there s no improvement in the situation, you might have to literally step out of the situation, if you can. 18 Living A Course in Miracles

19 If it s a child or something, then it s a little bit different. And you do whatever you can for them. If you put them in a program if you can put them in a program, I don t know. It depends on the situation and the kind of addiction you re talking about, but it s not a matter of trying to necessarily trying to fix them. You have to live the course out loud in front of them so they see what the right choices are. You have to be Christ in front of them. Indeed. Right. I know many years ago my minister, Michael Beckwith, here at Agape, he told a story about how he set the intention one year to be unbotherable. He set that as a New Year s intention. I was inspired by that and I said, You know? I m going to set that intention. And it was so deeply transformative to really say, Okay, I m going to be un-perturbable, un-botherable which means I have to do my inner work, not to be in denial but to be able to work with my mind in how I hold everything that s going around. How am I contributing to the upset? You know? It s that level of responsibility which is why I was bringing up your chapter in Living A Course In Miracles, Healing The Terrorist Within. We have to be willing to take responsibility. And this is something that many spiritual seekers, they will study spiritual material. They will study A Course In Miracles backwards and forwards and quote it like scripture, but the actual application and the deep commitment to really walk the talk and live the love, many times spiritual seekers don't even see that, because to me that s the spiritual practice. Without the practice, there s nothing. Right. There isn t because there s no change. Exactly. It doesn't matter what you intellectually know, if you don t practice it, you don't actually know it. It s not real until it s inside you. Mundy With Hadley 19

20 Living A Course in Miracles Life is Designed For Our Healing Yeah, so what you re saying is, every situation where it seems like our family members are upsetting us, this is perfectly designed for our healing. The healing that we re praying for, the healing that we most desire is contained in this moment of upset that our family members are presenting to us right now. That's right. This is the way you re learning. This is your teacher and you asked this teacher to teach you this so you should learn your lesson that you ask this parent, this child, whoever it is teach you. What about asking a family member to do something differently? Let s go back to the complainer. Yes. You can say that you would rather that I didn t do that. That doesn't mean that there s going to be any kind of change. And you certainly don't want to do it at a time that some sort of attack is going on. Your daughter is an only child, but do you have any advice for folks who have several children and maybe their children are fighting? How do you teach them to love out loud, to live the love. Obviously, if you re an adult and you see a couple of kids fighting, especially if it s a situation where they re in danger of hurting themselves, you don't allow them to continue to do it. You step in and you wouldn t want to let one person hurt another person. It s kind of like, Okay, you go to your corner. You go to your corner. You leave each other alone and you get quiet again. You have to set boundaries, obviously in situations like that. Give them a chance to, as I said before, to cool down. And then later to remember that they love each other actually, right? Sometimes you have to step in and create that 20 Living A Course in Miracles

21 Sure you do under those kinds of circumstances, yeah. That s what we have police for in the society that we re part of. It s to say that s not okay. Right, sure, because it may not be okay, especially if somebody is hurting somebody else. And hurting with words. Yeah, in any way. And I have done that in my family where I ve said to family members, I have decided that I am going to treat myself with total love and kindness. I m inviting everyone one in my life to do the same. And I ve made a decision that if people aren t willing to make a commitment to treat me with love and kindness that I m not going to be in a close relationship with them anymore. And I ve said to my immediate family members, That includes you. I didn t say I m not going to talk to you again if you don't always, because I wasn t there yet either, but I was aspiring to always be kind and loving. And so when they weren t kind and loving, I would remind them, I ve set this goal for myself that I m going to speak to myself with loving kindness and everyone else is I m holding everyone else to do that too. So, I m inviting you. If you re not going to speak to me with loving kindness, then let s regroup and talk again later. So, I m not saying, I don't want to listen to you. I don't want to hear you, but I really want to hear you and I can t hear you if you re not going to speak to me with loving kindness. Right. Right. I can t hear you when you re shouting at me. Now, I know you re going to have a great answer for this one. This is a big question. I get it all the time. I m sure you do too. People would like advice about how to talk to their loved ones about A Course In Miracles. Why? Mundy With Hadley 21

22 Living A Course in Miracles Well, because they re excited about it. They want to share. They want to share just like I just got a new app for my iphone. I m telling everyone because I love it. So, it s the same with A Course In Miracles, you know? When Your Mind is Clear It s Easy to Share Okay, but you don't have to. You can, but you don't have to. There s nothing that says that you ve got to do it. But people like to share. It s just like if you find a new restaurant. Well, of course. You want to tell everybody about it. Right. You find this wonderful teaching that s going to Your mind is clearing and opening. You want to share. So you share. You re just sharing concepts and ideas about what seems to work, what seems to be the best way of getting through this world. You don't have to even say it s coming from A Course In Miracles. There are a lot of preachers out there that are sort of sneakingly bringing the course into their sermons without saying it s coming from A Course In Miracles. It s just the right concept, the right idea. You know? Yes, I didn t know that. That s great. Well, it s been sneaking in over time. What about with family members who think A Course In Miracles is the devil. It s channeled work. It s the devil. You know? There s only one text. I probably wouldn t even want to go there. That doesn't mean that you don't You certainly don't stop being a student yourself. You don't stop 22 Living A Course in Miracles

23 studying the practices and the principles of the course yourself, but the course does not need to be defended. It doesn t even need to be preached. If people want to listen to it it s wonderful. There s something about the course, you know? If you pick up the course and you spend any time with it at all, sometimes especially too when somebody is sort of new to the course, you ll begin to read it and after a while you ll think, Whoa! Where is this coming from? This is not written Somebody didn t write An ego didn t write this. Nobody wrote this. There is no agenda here. They re not trying to sell me anything other than to help guide me to my own greatest happiness. So it s a wonderful thing. The course really that s why it begins to speak because you realize, even if you won t understand it, you know that it s true. The course is actually, I think, it s a perfect book. It s just amazing. As I ve said, 37 years and you can t show me a sentence in the course that I would disagree with. You might show me a sentence I didn t understand. But you wouldn t show me something that I would think was wrong. I haven t been able to find it. It s not there. So, it s really endearing. And there s something even if you don't consciously understand it, on a deeper, heart level you do understand that it s telling the truth. That s why it s such a gift that we ve been given. It s a perfect book and a perfect teacher. The Holy Spirit is a guide for our lives. You re really lucky. You re really fortunate to be able to put your foot on this path because the destination is home. The destination is heaven. There s no doubt about where it s leading you to. It may be awhile to get there and it s going to take awhile because the ego s hold is so tenacious and it is so very, very strong. But that doesn't mean you can t find freedom from it. It wasn t created in a day so it s not going to go away in a day either. Yes. Mundy With Hadley 23

24 Living A Course in Miracles For most of us, I think, there is great assistance in the course when we recognize that even our relationships with our family members are very often they begin as special relationships and they can be transformed into holy relationships. Expectations Are Attachments Yes. All you re doing when you re transforming it into a holy relationship, or you re moving toward a holy relationship, is that you re not putting any expectations, or anticipations onto that person. You re not saying they have to be a certain way. It s really very simple. That s the loving thing to do. Yes, yes. One of the things I share a lot about,, is the Buddhist teaching of attachments. So, all attachments create suffering. Attachments come in two flavors, cravings and aversions. And so when we have any kind of attachment it s going to create suffering. It s going to create upset. So it s about surrendering that attachment to me, placing it on the altar, offering it to the Holy Spirit and really being able to stand in the place of I don t value what I think about this anymore. I m not interested in what I think anymore. I am interested only in the thoughts I think with God. Right. That s where the whole course is going. That s the whole purpose of the course. It s to realign the mind back to the mind of God. And then you ll have the kind of clarity and peace of mind that you want. I was giving a lecture somewhere I don't know, recently. I noticed on several different occasions I said, What the whole course is about and then I would say later is, What the whole course is about And you could probably say that about a whole lot of different things and they would all be true. They d all be right. 24 Living A Course in Miracles

25 It s all about forgiveness. It s all about realigning the mind with the mind of God. All those things are really saying the same thing. That s where the course appears to be so incredibly redundant. It does keep saying the same thing over and over again. But it s talking about it in a new way and using a different motif than last time because we re so dense we need a lot of different motifs and analogies in order to be able to get it. Yes, well we get so attached to our judgments, our opinions, our point of view and our perceptions. And we can hold onto them very, very, very tightly. So, each presentation of the same concept in the course, coming back to it again and again helps us loosen it a little more, loosen it a little more, loosen it a little more. Until you get so loose that you get it. And then you have your aha ha. Aha ha, exactly. Which for those who weren t here in the pre-chat, the aha ha is when you have that aha and you actually unlock that joy that makes you laugh. I know many times reading the course I have I don't know if you ve had this experience,, but I have literally burst into tears because I was so grateful. The book was in my hand. The wisdom was awakening in my mind and I would cry, just sobbing, sobbing tears and it would dissolve into laughter, throwing my head back and laughing and laughing and laughing. And I m sure my neighbors would hear my laughter at 5:30 in the morning. I m laughing and laughing and laughing and they re probably wondering, What is going on? She s crying. She s laughing. She s having a nervous breakdown. Right. Mundy With Hadley 25

26 Living A Course in Miracles We re at time here. Gosh, it want by so quickly. I had quite a few more questions for you. I m going to remind people that the homework class is in just 12 hours from now. So, the second class of the week and that will be just with me and I m going to share with you my own experiences and the practical ways in which I ve learned to walk the talk and live the love in my family and in my relationships, and amazing, miraculous healing that I ve had giving my relationships to the Holy Spirit to be transformed into holy relationships. s Offerings I ll be sharing about that in just about 12 hours. Before we complete here,, I would like to ask you to remind everyone again how they can find you on the web and get the free copy of Miracles Magazine and subscribe to your magazine, et cetera. Well, it s real easy. It s just MiraclesMagazine.org and at the very top of the Website there s a button you push that says, Click here for a free sample copy. And you do that and just leave your address and you ll probably get the July/August issue, not the May/June issue because we d have to send that out first class. It would go with the next bulk mailing which will be the July/August edition. And the book is available, of course at Barnes and Noble, or Amazon.com or anyplace. Just type in Living A Course In Miracles. And your book, Living A Course In Miracles, this is your ninth book? Right. Beautiful. Yeah, it s a beautiful book. I encourage people to check it out. It s really helpful in terms of this practical application of A Course In Miracles. It s very helpful. 26 Living A Course in Miracles

27 , I m going to say a blessing for us. Sure. Thank you so much for joining us And thank you. And keep up your good work. You re doing really incredible work yourself. You re going to be around the country this summer as well. Yep. I m going to be in Saint Louis the first weekend in August offering a retreat. And you re all over the Midwest. This weekend you re in Cleveland at A Course In Miracles Conference there. Can people learn about that? Do you have an events page on your Website? Yes, exactly. It s at the top left hand side of the Website. There s just a click on a picture right to their site which talks about the event in Cleveland. is all over the place and hopefully coming to a city near you. And remember too, you have 48 hours to listen to the replays for free. And you can get the unlimited replays for only $67 for all 16 classes. It s approximately $4 per class. If you can t make the free replay, you can always sign up for that. And I do invite you to bring your friends, your family to share it with you because it s a great way to introduce people to the course, and just to have a conversation about the practical application of the teachings and how you can improve your relationships with them. So, consider that. I think it s a great way to start a dialog and to set intention together to really walk the talk and live the love. Closing Blessing I m going to invite everyone to place your hand on your heart again. We partner up with the Holy Spirit here and remember that the kingdom is within, the treasure is within. It s preinstalled. It is our true identity, our true nature. And we already have within us everything we need. Just like the acorn contains all the intelligence it Mundy With Hadley 27

28 Living A Course in Miracles needs to become a mighty oak tree, we have everything we need already installed to walk the talk and live the love. We have the Holy Spirit as our teacher and we are saying, yes, right now together in this sacred circle. We are saying, yes, to being a loving presence in our own life. We are saying, yes, to being the change that we would like to experience. We re saying, yes, to being un-botherable, to being openhearted, to being loving and available, so available for divine inspiration and guidance in every moment. We re so grateful that we can, and we do, extend love to everyone, to all of our brothers and sisters, rejoicing that we are already one with them. In grace and gratitude, in joy, we simply say, Amen. Amen, Amen. Amen to that. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you,, for all the work that you re doing. It s really incredible. My pleasure and my joy. And I know that s true for you too. 28 Living A Course in Miracles

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